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Post by stu on Nov 1, 2024 10:22:14 GMT -5
Here's some bottom of the barrel free agents. On the cheap Margot makes more sense than Grisham as he can hit LHP. Not an exciting guy but at the right price he'd be OK as a bench piece. He always seemed to kill the Yankees when he was on the Rays, or at least when I watched him.
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Nov 1, 2024 11:32:42 GMT -5
I'd be interested in rekindling deadline talks with the Rays for 1B Yandy Diaz. It tied into the Torres situation, actually. This team has totally ignored the fundamentals of defense and baserunning, Torres being a prime offender. I really would like to move on from him to a better defender, even if it costs some offense. But that's tough in general because we aren't exactly overflowing with offense. Even more specifically, it's tough because Torres really took well to the leadoff spot. If we let him go to improve the defense it's unlikely we get a leadoff hitter as well (because a plus defensive, leadoff hitting infielder isn't exactly easy to find). So now we open up that hole. We obviously need to get a new 1B after the trainwreck of this past season, but filling the leadoff spot there seems unlikely. Except Yandy Diaz is one of the weird cases of a leadoff hitting 1B. So you address the 1B position and the leadoff spot in one swoop. Then you can sign a plus defensive infielder to replace Torres (either at 2B or 3B depending where you play Jazz).
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Post by Max on Nov 1, 2024 13:37:37 GMT -5
would love to have soto back and a yankee for the duration. pretty sure hal will be all in but it's a double edged sword. if we sign him, does that mean we cheap out on filling our other holes especially knowing the LT limitations because of all the big contracts we have. or do you let him and use that $50 mil to fill the many holes we have. If the Mets sign Soto, I expect the Yankees to counter that and sign Alonso. I know I would, he's a good power hitter and he also has good overall postseason stats. Another option for the Yankees to sign would be Santander. He doesn't have a good OBP and he strikeouts a lot. But he hits for power and he has some experiences playing LF and 1B. My guess is that if Soto signs with another team, Judge moves back to RF.
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Nov 1, 2024 13:41:33 GMT -5
would love to have soto back and a yankee for the duration. pretty sure hal will be all in but it's a double edged sword. if we sign him, does that mean we cheap out on filling our other holes especially knowing the LT limitations because of all the big contracts we have. or do you let him and use that $50 mil to fill the many holes we have. If the Mets sign Soto, I expect the Yankees to counter that and sign Alonso. I know I would, he's a good power hitter and he also has good overall postseason stats. Another option for the Yankees to sign would be Santander. He doesn't have a good OBP and he strikeouts a lot. But he hits for power and he has some experiences playing LF and 1B. My guess is that if Soto signs with another team, Judge moves back to RF. The problem with Alonso is he's another HR or bust guy, and a bigger issue is he's a lousy defensive 1B. Given our defensive issues, adding another subpar defender is not a great idea. Sure, chances are our IF defense improves if we move on from Gleyber, but adding a bad defensive 1B just nullifies that if it happens.
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Post by Max on Nov 1, 2024 14:18:15 GMT -5
If the Mets sign Soto, I expect the Yankees to counter that and sign Alonso. I know I would, he's a good power hitter and he also has good overall postseason stats. Another option for the Yankees to sign would be Santander. He doesn't have a good OBP and he strikeouts a lot. But he hits for power and he has some experiences playing LF and 1B. My guess is that if Soto signs with another team, Judge moves back to RF. The problem with Alonso is he's another HR or bust guy, and a bigger issue is he's a lousy defensive 1B. Given our defensive issues, adding another subpar defender is not a great idea. Sure, chances are our IF defense improves if we move on from Gleyber, but adding a bad defensive 1B just nullifies that if it happens. I don't see him winning any Gold Gloves, but Alonso OPS is very good.
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 1, 2024 15:02:50 GMT -5
If the Mets sign Soto, I expect the Yankees to counter that and sign Alonso. I know I would, he's a good power hitter and he also has good overall postseason stats. Another option for the Yankees to sign would be Santander. He doesn't have a good OBP and he strikeouts a lot. But he hits for power and he has some experiences playing LF and 1B. My guess is that if Soto signs with another team, Judge moves back to RF. The problem with Alonso is he's another HR or bust guy, and a bigger issue is he's a lousy defensive 1B. Given our defensive issues, adding another subpar defender is not a great idea. Sure, chances are our IF defense improves if we move on from Gleyber, but adding a bad defensive 1B just nullifies that if it happens. What embarrassment that would be, in sense trading the far superior Soto crosstown for Alonso. I'm not sure the Yankees can take that.
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Post by Max on Nov 1, 2024 15:13:13 GMT -5
The problem with Alonso is he's another HR or bust guy, and a bigger issue is he's a lousy defensive 1B. Given our defensive issues, adding another subpar defender is not a great idea. Sure, chances are our IF defense improves if we move on from Gleyber, but adding a bad defensive 1B just nullifies that if it happens. What embarrassment that would be, in sense trading the far superior Soto crosstown for Alonso. I'm not sure the Yankees can take that. Not equal value, but my guess is that the Yankees would still have money left over to acquire another player.
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 1, 2024 15:17:25 GMT -5
What embarrassment that would be, in sense trading the far superior Soto crosstown for Alonso. I'm not sure the Yankees can take that. Not equal value, but my guess is that the Yankees would still have money left over to acquire another player. I think the Yanks would go after someone like Walker instead, since it would be a P.R. nightmare to bring in Alonso if Soto signs with the Mets. Plus, imagine how hard the fans would be on Pete if he got off to a bad start in April.
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Nov 1, 2024 15:26:06 GMT -5
would love to have soto back and a yankee for the duration. pretty sure hal will be all in but it's a double edged sword. if we sign him, does that mean we cheap out on filling our other holes especially knowing the LT limitations because of all the big contracts we have. or do you let him and use that $50 mil to fill the many holes we have. If the Mets sign Soto, I expect the Yankees to counter that and sign Alonso. I know I would, he's a good power hitter and he also has good overall postseason stats. Another option for the Yankees to sign would be Santander. He doesn't have a good OBP and he strikeouts a lot. But he hits for power and he has some experiences playing LF and 1B. My guess is that if Soto signs with another team, Judge moves back to RF. Santander has played 13 career games at 1B. Maybe he could learn the position, but I think it'd be a stretch for us to acquire him and assume he can transition there. He's primarily been a RF, and a weak one at that. He has experience in LF, but keep in mind how big LF is at the Stadium and how they have historically preferred a "second center fielder" in that spot. I think the only way he makes sense is for RF is Soto leaves. My initial thought is to disagree with you about Judge moving back to RF if Soto leaves. I like the idea because it would improve the defense, but our offense is taking a MASSIVE step back if Soto walks. If you ty to replace his ABs with a center fielder, you're likely exaggerating that stepdown ever more just by virtue of the typical hitter at that spot. Keeping Judge in CF allows you to shop for a COF instead which is going to salvage more offense at that spot.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Nov 1, 2024 15:40:33 GMT -5
If the Mets sign Soto, I expect the Yankees to counter that and sign Alonso. I know I would, he's a good power hitter and he also has good overall postseason stats. Another option for the Yankees to sign would be Santander. He doesn't have a good OBP and he strikeouts a lot. But he hits for power and he has some experiences playing LF and 1B. My guess is that if Soto signs with another team, Judge moves back to RF. Santander has played 13 career games at 1B. Maybe he could learn the position, but I think it'd be a stretch for us to acquire him and assume he can transition there. He's primarily been a RF, and a weak one at that. He has experience in LF, but keep in mind how big LF is at the Stadium and how they have historically preferred a "second center fielder" in that spot. I think the only way he makes sense is for RF is Soto leaves. My initial thought is to disagree with you about Judge moving back to RF if Soto leaves. I like the idea because it would improve the defense, but our offense is taking a MASSIVE step back if Soto walks. If you ty to replace his ABs with a center fielder, you're likely exaggerating that stepdown ever more just by virtue of the typical hitter at that spot. Keeping Judge in CF allows you to shop for a COF instead which is going to salvage more offense at that spot. Yankeesfaninboston, not sure how old you are but I'm an old guy. When I was younger it seemed it was pretty much standard operating procedure that once a slugger got up there in years he was transistioned to first base. That was before the DH. The Yanks did play Rice at 1b with minimal experience. Not saying it's a good idea but I do wonder if the Yanks view 1b as more of an offensive postition than defensive. Did we play Sanchez a couple games at 1b when he was struggling as a catcher?
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Nov 1, 2024 15:54:57 GMT -5
Santander has played 13 career games at 1B. Maybe he could learn the position, but I think it'd be a stretch for us to acquire him and assume he can transition there. He's primarily been a RF, and a weak one at that. He has experience in LF, but keep in mind how big LF is at the Stadium and how they have historically preferred a "second center fielder" in that spot. I think the only way he makes sense is for RF is Soto leaves. My initial thought is to disagree with you about Judge moving back to RF if Soto leaves. I like the idea because it would improve the defense, but our offense is taking a MASSIVE step back if Soto walks. If you ty to replace his ABs with a center fielder, you're likely exaggerating that stepdown ever more just by virtue of the typical hitter at that spot. Keeping Judge in CF allows you to shop for a COF instead which is going to salvage more offense at that spot. Yankeesfaninboston, not sure how old you are but I'm an old guy. When I was younger it seemed it was pretty much standard operating procedure that once a slugger got up there in years he was transistioned to first base. That was before the DH. The Yanks did play Rice at 1b with minimal experience. Not saying it's a good idea but I do wonder if the Yanks view 1b as more of an offensive postition than defensive. Did we play Sanchez a couple games at 1b when he was struggling as a catcher? Only 32 so don't think I qualify as old haha. But I definitely know where you're coming from with sluggers moving to 1B. I just get kind of nervous with it because we have Stanton all the way locked in at DH. We don't have the option of using that spot if he fails to take to the positon. It's one thing to do it with a minor league guy like Rice, but Santander is going to be another big contract on a payroll that's already bloated with question makes. I'm not sure he's SUCH a good hitter that I'd want to open that can of worms. If Soto leaves, I think Cody Bellinger is probably the best replacement. You need a left handed hitter to replace Soto in the middle of the order and he's a lefty. He could play CF better than Judge and move Judge back to RF where he becomes a huge defensive upgrade over Soto so it helps the defense upgrade in two spots. And he's got the versatility to where he could move to 1B if whatever solution we go with there fails and we need offense at the deadline, that way we can shop at multiple positions if it comes to that.
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Nov 1, 2024 16:00:17 GMT -5
Not equal value, but my guess is that the Yankees would still have money left over to acquire another player. I think the Yanks would go after someone like Walker instead, since it would be a P.R. nightmare to bring in Alonso if Soto signs with the Mets. Plus, imagine how hard the fans would be on Pete if he got off to a bad start in April. Forget the PR, I'd go after Walker instead just on the field. Walker is a strong defensive 1B instead of a terrible one. He's hit slightly better than Alonso the last two years too overall. He's older so more risk of decline, but accordingly he probably gets a 2-3 year deal vs. the $200M people talk about for Alonso. Already having Judge and Stanton with huge power from the right side and being weak on defense overall, I think Walkers hitting profile and stronger defense fits the roster better.
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 1, 2024 16:34:27 GMT -5
I think the Yanks would go after someone like Walker instead, since it would be a P.R. nightmare to bring in Alonso if Soto signs with the Mets. Plus, imagine how hard the fans would be on Pete if he got off to a bad start in April. Forget the PR, I'd go after Walker instead just on the field. Walker is a strong defensive 1B instead of a terrible one. He's hit slightly better than Alonso the last two years too overall. He's older so more risk of decline, but accordingly he probably gets a 2-3 year deal vs. the $200M people talk about for Alonso. Already having Judge and Stanton with huge power from the right side and being weak on defense overall, I think Walkers hitting profile and stronger defense fits the roster better. The Yanks should make a run at Walker even if they do resign Soto.
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Post by Max on Nov 1, 2024 17:30:38 GMT -5
Not equal value, but my guess is that the Yankees would still have money left over to acquire another player. I think the Yanks would go after someone like Walker instead, since it would be a P.R. nightmare to bring in Alonso if Soto signs with the Mets. Plus, imagine how hard the fans would be on Pete if he got off to a bad start in April. Just my 2 cents... But a GM shouldn't worry about fans booing a player that he's thinking of signing/trading for. Alonso is younger than Walker and he knows NYC. To each their own, not everyone is going to see things the same way. In my opinion, it's more of a PR nightmare if the Yankees lose Soto to the Mets and get nothing in return from the Mets.
My friend, my hope is that all this talk is moot, and Soto re-signs with the Yankees.
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Post by Max on Nov 1, 2024 17:42:42 GMT -5
Yankeesfaninboston, not sure how old you are but I'm an old guy. When I was younger it seemed it was pretty much standard operating procedure that once a slugger got up there in years he was transistioned to first base. That was before the DH. The Yanks did play Rice at 1b with minimal experience. Not saying it's a good idea but I do wonder if the Yanks view 1b as more of an offensive postition than defensive. Did we play Sanchez a couple games at 1b when he was struggling as a catcher? Only 32 so don't think I qualify as old haha. But I definitely know where you're coming from with sluggers moving to 1B. I just get kind of nervous with it because we have Stanton all the way locked in at DH. We don't have the option of using that spot if he fails to take to the positon. It's one thing to do it with a minor league guy like Rice, but Santander is going to be another big contract on a payroll that's already bloated with question makes. I'm not sure he's SUCH a good hitter that I'd want to open that can of worms. If Soto leaves, I think Cody Bellinger is probably the best replacement. You need a left handed hitter to replace Soto in the middle of the order and he's a lefty. He could play CF better than Judge and move Judge back to RF where he becomes a huge defensive upgrade over Soto so it helps the defense upgrade in two spots. And he's got the versatility to where he could move to 1B if whatever solution we go with there fails and we need offense at the deadline, that way we can shop at multiple positions if it comes to that. Bellinger would be a good fit for the Yankees but so far he's not a free agent.
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