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Post by chiyankee on Oct 31, 2024 19:36:34 GMT -5
Here's some bottom of the barrel free agents.
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Post by kaybli on Oct 31, 2024 19:38:51 GMT -5
I would only expect minor moves until Soto gets sorted out. Would love to see him back, think they have a good shot but it's not a forgone conclusion. An interesting option would be a one year cushion/prove it type of contract for Yoan Moncada whose team option was just declined by the White Sox today. Maybe he would come cheaply or with games played incentives so he'd be cheap unless he can get in to a lot of games. Assuming he passes a physical. Welcome to the board!  |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 31, 2024 19:43:07 GMT -5
I would only expect minor moves until Soto gets sorted out. Would love to see him back, think they have a good shot but it's not a forgone conclusion. I hope that Boras doesn't drag this out until spring training, hopefully he learned from last off season. |
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Post by stu on Oct 31, 2024 20:11:43 GMT -5
I would only expect minor moves until Soto gets sorted out. Would love to see him back, think they have a good shot but it's not a forgone conclusion. I hope that Boras doesn't drag this out until spring training, hopefully he learned from last off season. Thanks for the welcomes! I think teams will be all over Soto and he's worth it, so I think he'll be different, he will get snapped up fast. He would have to ask for outlandish money and years to linger on the market. At that point the Yankees might pull a Cano and just move on from him, but I don't see it coming to that. He controls how the Yankee offseason will go. If they get him they will need to be more creative and frugal with their other needs. If he leaves it will actually be a more interesting free agency period for the Yankees. You just hope they don't bring back a haul like McCann/Beltran/Ellsbury like they did when Cano left. But I think there is potential for them to do well if they do lose out on Soto. |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Oct 31, 2024 20:25:36 GMT -5
I would only expect minor moves until Soto gets sorted out. Would love to see him back, think they have a good shot but it's not a forgone conclusion. An interesting option would be a one year cushion/prove it type of contract for Yoan Moncada whose team option was just declined by the White Sox today. Maybe he would come cheaply or with games played incentives so he'd be cheap unless he can get in to a lot of games. Assuming he passes a physical. Welcome to the board, Stu! Moncada..there's a guy who had fallen off the map. He's only 29, so someone will take a flier on him, definitely needs an incentive based contract. I wouldn't mind a flier on Moncada if it's a prove-it deal. No harm there. The White Sox, man. Remember back around 2018, 2019 when everyone thought they were building a future juggernaut? They were stockpiling tons of big time prospects. Looked like it might be working for a while, then they almost all went tits up. |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Oct 31, 2024 20:29:30 GMT -5
Welcome to the board, Stu! Moncada..there's a guy who had fallen off the map. He's only 29, so someone will take a flier on him, definitely needs an incentive based contract. I think that's probably the type of guy they will look at before Soto is resolved. Low cost and short term deals. I could be wrong but I think any big moves will be on hold until Soto is off the board. There are some interesting options if they do lose Soto that might help lengthen the lineup if they pivot and sign multiple players, but I really hope Soto stays. I know Hal called the payroll "unsustainable", but could losing to a team that blew through a billion in contracts last offseason change his mind? Welcome, Stu. Yeah, "unsustainable." And why's that? Because your dingbat GM was tossing around huge contracts to guys either at the tail end of, or past their prime and pitchers who will never live up to the deals they got. I still cannot get past how bad Cashman is at his job and just seems to have unending job security. Hopefully seeing what the Dodgers did does grease Hal's wallet, because the farm system isn't coming to the rescue and you're going to have to pay big to patch all the holes created by his previous terrible moves. |
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Post by bumper on Oct 31, 2024 20:41:53 GMT -5
would love to have soto back and a yankee for the duration. pretty sure hal will be all in but it's a double edged sword. if we sign him, does that mean we cheap out on filling our other holes especially knowing the LT limitations because of all the big contracts we have. or do you let him and use that $50 mil to fill the many holes we have.
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Oct 31, 2024 20:47:50 GMT -5
would love to have soto back and a yankee for the duration. pretty sure hal will be all in but it's a double edged sword. if we sign him, does that mean we cheap out on filling our other holes especially knowing the LT limitations because of all the big contracts we have. or do you let him and use that $50 mil to fill the many holes we have. The problem, in the short term, is that if Soto does go,leaving you more money to spend elsewhere, this is an underwhelming FA crop. Nobody is all that exciting. The best are probably Alex Bregman who is 31 and a good, not great player. Adames is probably next, but he's a SS. Then Alonso, who would be another HR or nothing hitter who is a poor defensive player. The rest of the crop are mostly older guys who aren't overly appealing. |
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Post by cocopugg on Oct 31, 2024 23:26:54 GMT -5
would love to have soto back and a yankee for the duration. pretty sure hal will be all in but it's a double edged sword. if we sign him, does that mean we cheap out on filling our other holes especially knowing the LT limitations because of all the big contracts we have. or do you let him and use that $50 mil to fill the many holes we have. Juan Soto is a walking/power/hitting machine. The best reason to sign him is, there is no loop in his swing. He can NOT be successfully pitched to on a consistent basis, the way Judge or Stanton can. Look at Soto's stance...There's a lot of Rickey Henderson (without the speed) in him. If Hal doesn't sign him (especially since he just turned only 26 yrs old, someone who has "proven" incredible post-season (successful) experience, the Yankees organization WILL regret it! Trust me, this guy is NOT Hicks or LeMahieu, Soto is the real deal, worthy of a long-term contract! |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Nov 1, 2024 7:02:42 GMT -5
I know there has been some confusion about the Stroman vesting option but I've read several recent articles that indicate the vesting is based upon innings pitched in 2025. If they are correct, the 3rd year of his contract doesn't kick in unless he pitches 140 innings this upcoming season. That is good news. I'm not sure how doable it is but he is one guy I would try to move this offseason even if there isn't much of a return.
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Post by bumper on Nov 1, 2024 7:18:13 GMT -5
I know there has been some confusion about the Stroman vesting option but I've read several recent articles that indicate the vesting is based upon innings pitched in 2025. If they are correct, the 3rd year of his contract doesn't kick in unless he pitches 140 innings this upcoming season. That is good news. I'm not sure how doable it is but he is one guy I would try to move this offseason even if there isn't much of a return. he only had 154 this season, so keeping him under 140 should be doable. he'd be pissed and not sure if there would be any union ramifications. but agree, i would just try to move him and take whatever you can get. he was the yamamoto "consolation" price and it didn't work. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Nov 1, 2024 7:19:34 GMT -5
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Post by stu on Nov 1, 2024 8:34:18 GMT -5
I know there has been some confusion about the Stroman vesting option but I've read several recent articles that indicate the vesting is based upon innings pitched in 2025. If they are correct, the 3rd year of his contract doesn't kick in unless he pitches 140 innings this upcoming season. That is good news. I'm not sure how doable it is but he is one guy I would try to move this offseason even if there isn't much of a return. he only had 154 this season, so keeping him under 140 should be doable. he'd be pissed and not sure if there would be any union ramifications. but agree, i would just try to move him and take whatever you can get. he was the yamamoto "consolation" price and it didn't work. A salary dump would be the best outcome, if any team would take his contract on. 2 years in a row now Stroman has had a good first half and then the wheels come off in the 2nd half. Not so useful for a team that wants to win in the post season. I wonder Arizona would trade Montgomery and enough $$ to equal out their salaries for Stro. Maybe with a normal spring training he could have a bounce back season. I don't think Stroman has it in him to pitch well for a full season anymore. |
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Post by JEGnj on Nov 1, 2024 9:32:33 GMT -5
Stroman and Cortes need to go via trade. Inconsistent and if not part of the plan move on. Don't even think about j-Lo even on the cheap because he will just get hurt. Jasson and Jones need to fill LF.
I love Gleyber I would love him to be a Yankee for a long time BUT we have to move on. One of the big downfalls this season was mental gaffs and not hustling. For some reason Gleyber just doesn't get it. We need someone to take 3B or 2B that is gritty and gets dirty.
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Post by cocopugg on Nov 1, 2024 9:39:28 GMT -5
Stroman and Cortes need to go via trade. Inconsistent and if not part of the plan move on. Don't even think about j-Lo even on the cheap because he will just get hurt. Jasson and Jones need to fill LF. I love Gleyber I would love him to be a Yankee for a long time BUT we have to move on. One of the big downfalls this season was mental gaffs and not hustling. For some reason Gleyber just doesn't get it. We need someone to take 3B or 2B that is gritty and gets dirty. Yankee fans know what memory will remain with them when anyone mentions the word "Cortes," so I agree, he needs to move on. As for Gleyber, I admire his late season numbers, and he was a very good lead off hitter, but I think the Yankees need a solid 2nd baseman who makes far less errors, can run and hit lead off, to set the table for Soto (if he comes back) and Judge. |
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