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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 30, 2021 6:51:45 GMT -5
Since there is no college football thread, I guess all things pigskin go here. I assume Rizz has some reaction to his Bayou Bengals signing Brian Kelly from Notre Dame.
As near as I can calculate, Brian Kelly is the first Notre Dame coach in history to voluntarily leave South Bend to take another college coaching job elsewhere. Lou Holtz did retire from ND for two seasons and then came back to coach at South Carolina, but that's the closest example I can find.
So the storied Notre Dame-USC game this Saturday will presumably feature two interim coaches. And The Fighting Irish can still make the playoffs.
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 30, 2021 19:37:45 GMT -5
Okay, I see this thread is now called the NFL/College Football thread. I don't know if I missed it earlier or if it just happened, but anyway there's room for both.
I think Philly may be the major city with the least interest in college sports, although northeastern cities in general are far more focused on professional sports. Even when Villanova was winning national championships in basketball, the subject rarely came up on the local sports talk shows. Nobody who doesn't actually go to Temple cares about Temple football, and even many of those are perhaps understandably indifferent. Penn State might as well be in Kansas as far as the typical Philly sports fan is concerned.
Going by apparent fan interest, Philly sports are weighted 90 percent Eagles, five percent 76ers, four percent Phillies, 0.5 percent Flyers and 0.5 percent everything else.
New York seems to have more balance between NFL and MLB, although again college sports are not very prominent. In any city how teams are performing at any given time is obviously a factor, but it seems to me that in general you get at least as much Yankees/Mets interest as Giants/Jets interest, maybe even a bit more.
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 30, 2021 20:14:52 GMT -5
Jumping back to Notre Dame since I started looking into it -- they have had 31 head coaches in their history and only one, Joe Kuharich, had a losing record. He was 17-23 between 1959-1962. They have had nine coaches (10 game minimum) with a winning percentage of .800 or better, led by Knute Rockne's .881 compiled between 1918 and 1930.
Perhaps less appreciated is that Notre Dame was putting up great records before Rockne ever arrived. In the twelve years before he took over, under a variety of coaches (they changed them frequently in those days), ND was 77-8-6.
Brian Kelly won more games than any other coach there, besting Rockne by 106 to 105. However, Kelly coached 25 more games than Rockne.
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Post by inger on Nov 30, 2021 20:20:23 GMT -5
Jumping back to Notre Dame since I started looking into it -- they have had 31 head coaches in their history and only one, Joe Kuharich, had a losing record. He was 17-23 between 1959-1962. They have had nine coaches (10 game minimum) with a winning percentage of .800 or better, led by Knute Rockne's .881 compiled between 1918 and 1930. Perhaps less appreciated is that Notre Dame was putting up great records before Rockne ever arrived. In the twelve years before he took over, under a variety of coaches (they changed them frequently in those days), ND was 77-8-6. Brian Kelly won more games than any other coach there, besting Rockne by 106 to 105. However, Kelly coached 25 more games than Rockne. I miss ties. I’d rather see them than know a game was one after time expired and under modified rules… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 30, 2021 20:35:43 GMT -5
Jumping back to Notre Dame since I started looking into it -- they have had 31 head coaches in their history and only one, Joe Kuharich, had a losing record. He was 17-23 between 1959-1962. They have had nine coaches (10 game minimum) with a winning percentage of .800 or better, led by Knute Rockne's .881 compiled between 1918 and 1930. Perhaps less appreciated is that Notre Dame was putting up great records before Rockne ever arrived. In the twelve years before he took over, under a variety of coaches (they changed them frequently in those days), ND was 77-8-6. Brian Kelly won more games than any other coach there, besting Rockne by 106 to 105. However, Kelly coached 25 more games than Rockne. I miss ties. I’d rather see them than know a game was one after time expired and under modified rules… I concur. Ties weren't all that annoying. I really hate the bizarre new tie-breaking rules in college football. Worse than the Manfred Man in baseball. I hate the hockey shootout too. It's like you determine the winner of a stalemate chess match by doing a pole vault. |
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 30, 2021 21:05:03 GMT -5
Okay, I see this thread is now called the NFL/College Football thread. I don't know if I missed it earlier or if it just happened, but anyway there's room for both. I think Philly may be the major city with the least interest in college sports, although northeastern cities in general are far more focused on professional sports. Even when Villanova was winning national championships in basketball, the subject rarely came up on the local sports talk shows. Nobody who doesn't actually go to Temple cares about Temple football, and even many of those are perhaps understandably indifferent. Penn State might as well be in Kansas as far as the typical Philly sports fan is concerned. Going by apparent fan interest, Philly sports are weighted 90 percent Eagles, five percent 76ers, four percent Phillies, 0.5 percent Flyers and 0.5 percent everything else. New York seems to have more balance between NFL and MLB, although again college sports are not very prominent. In any city how teams are performing at any given time is obviously a factor, but it seems to me that in general you get at least as much Yankees/Mets interest as Giants/Jets interest, maybe even a bit more. Dallas is much like that it seems. Outside of the Cowboys, there is no other team in the front seat or even really the backseat, rather the others are following behind in a gooseneck trailer. The Mavericks are much like the 76ers status, the Rangers have some following, as does SMU somewhat, and Baylor is in Waco, which might as well be Happy Valley. There aren't as many Texas Longhorn fans as I expected, more Texas A&M, but even then it's not rabid interest. High School football probably comes in second here. Now, when you cross the border into Louisiana, the New Orleans' Saints and LSU reign supreme. LSU's interest holds nearly as much sway for the haters as the fans (if you are an alum of University of Louisiana at Lafayette or Louisiana Tech or Southern or Grambling, Tulane, etc.). |
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 30, 2021 21:30:37 GMT -5
Since there is no college football thread, I guess all things pigskin go here. I assume Rizz has some reaction to his Bayou Bengals signing Brian Kelly from Notre Dame. As near as I can calculate, Brian Kelly is the first Notre Dame coach in history to voluntarily leave South Bend to take another college coaching job elsewhere. Lou Holtz did retire from ND for two seasons and then came back to coach at South Carolina, but that's the closest example I can find. So the storied Notre Dame-USC game this Saturday will presumably feature two interim coaches. And The Fighting Irish can still make the playoffs. My reaction is one of surprise but hopeful anticipation. I do not think most LSU fans - generationally ignorant, perhaps - understand what it means for a successful Notre Dame coach to leave that university willingly for Baton Rouge, of all places. We had one of those old LPs of famous sporting events, such as Joe Louis knocking out Max Schmeling and demolishing Two-Ton Tony Galento in the fourth round, Man of War winning the Belmont, Jesse Owens in Berlin, the retirement speech of Lou Gehrig, and of course the locker-room speech by Knute Rockne. Being raised Catholic might also have clued me in to the significance and history of Notre Dame and college football. For the most part, I think many were surprised that the hire was a coach of the same relative age as Coach Orgeron - many were hoping for young, offensive gurus like Lincoln Riley, Lane Kiffin or even the Cincinnati coach Luke Fickell or Mel Tucker from Michigan State. Some were thinking about a return of Dave Aranda, the defensive coordinator at LSU in 2019 who is the Baylor head coach or the offensive coordinator from the Carolina Panthers who installed the Saints offense at LSU in 2019 - Joe Brady. Some even thought that Nick Saban would want to return. Ultimately, I want to see a fundamentally sound team. The talent at LSU has rarely been the problem, outside of the offensive line. Brian Kelly certainly has put enough offensive guards and tackles in the NFL, and getting those five star and four star recruits to Baton Rouge is the key - in my opinion - to rivaling Alabama for more than one year at a time. You can throw a rock in Louisiana and find skill position players like wide receivers and running backs. There is an old joke in South Louisiana that the perfect season for an LSU fan is to win the National Championship, have an undefeated record, and fire the coach. |
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 30, 2021 22:28:15 GMT -5
Pipps, here is an interesting post from an LSU fan on the tigerdroppings.com website regarding Brian Kelly:
He is a great fucking hire. Turn on ESPN and tell me if they are talking about LSU or the upcoming #1 Georgia/#4 Alabama game this weekend?
But for the haters, check out these stats...
Record at Cincinnati: 34-6 including 12-0 perfect season in 2012
Players he had during those three full seasons
QBs: Ben Mauk, Tony Pike, Zach Collaros
RBs: Butler Benton, Jacob Ramsey, Isaiah Pead
WRs: Marcus Bennett, Dominick Goodman, Mardy Gilyard, Armon Binns, D.J. Woods
Players Drafted to NFL
2008: 1 (6th Round)
2009: 4 (2nd, Two 5th, and a 6th Rounder)
2010: 3 (4th, 5th, and 7th rounder)
He had no REAL NFL talent on those teams, just his ability to coach his squad, which was 8-5 the year before he got there.
Also, if Notre Dame wins their bowl game, they would finish 12-1, tying his best record while coaching at Notre Dame. HE LEFT THAT to come to LSU and take on this challenge. He can coach and will change the culture in that locker room to rival what Nick Saban has done at Alabama. Respect and hard work is all that matters. He might be a POS in real life but who cares if he is winning.
Be excited about this because he knows if he fails, he will ruin his coaching career and go from great to average. He knows what this means and it'll be fun to see how fast he can turn things around. Be ready for a balanced offense and a scary defense.
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 30, 2021 22:30:54 GMT -5
Okay, this post if for Inger especially. Does the following image of Brian Kelly seem that he is overly excited?   |
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Post by inger on Nov 30, 2021 23:43:02 GMT -5
Okay, this post if for Inger especially. Does the following image of Brian Kelly seem that he is overly excited? Could be his cell phone is down there. Could be it’s set on vibrate. Could be he’s asking everyone to take turns calling him… |
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Post by noetsi on Dec 1, 2021 23:17:06 GMT -5
My vikings have done the right thing. They had no chance for the play offs so they found clever ways to lose games and get better draft picks  |
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Post by inger on Dec 1, 2021 23:22:01 GMT -5
My vikings have done the right thing. They had no chance for the play offs so they found clever ways to lose games and get better draft picks Noetsi’s joy: bunts and punts… 😂 |
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Post by noetsi on Dec 1, 2021 23:24:34 GMT -5
The vikings could have one of the best records in football. They find really unique ways to lose games. Usually late in the game. |
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Post by inger on Dec 1, 2021 23:27:38 GMT -5
The vikings could have one of the best records in football. They find really unique ways to lose games. Usually late in the game. Just as the Great Francis Tarkenton used to find ways to win them at the end… |
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 2, 2021 23:43:59 GMT -5
Awful performance tonight by the Saints, who with just a little more precision, five fewer drops, and a horrible blindside block call could have won this game. Saints have now lost five games in a row, which they have never done in a single season under Sean Payton. No starting quarterback, no starting wide receiver, no starting running back, no starting left tackle, no starting right tackle, no starting left guard, no starting tight end, no starting kicker, down two defensive ends (one a starter and best pass rusher), and a starting defensive tackle. Tough sledding to make the playoffs  |
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