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Post by utahyank on Sept 10, 2018 15:05:08 GMT -5
Pretty far out there, Utah. If I read you correctly, you are intimating that if Trump is found to be legally guilty of breaking the law and duly removed from office for his crimes, like any other criminal, that will mean civil war as his followers won’t accept the legality of the process and instead will initiate violence against its fellow citizens thus starting a shooting war because they love or believe in him so much that the thought of an America without him would be too much to take. You just fell into the trap...if you believe it is out of the question, you are "not well informed." In other words, ignorant. Therefore, your opinions and arguments may now be dismissed categorically as those of an ignorant person, to be discarded with a seemingly polite yet sanctimonious air of pity. no...I will not allow you to use the disingenuous twisting of my words....no one here is ignorant...quite the opposite...all of us are less informed on some subjects...if you know, as you read this, what is meant by "3 percenters" you are partially informed....if you don't, you are less informed on this subject....that is all.... |
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Post by rizzuto on Sept 10, 2018 16:17:48 GMT -5
You just fell into the trap...if you believe it is out of the question, you are "not well informed." In other words, ignorant. Therefore, your opinions and arguments may now be dismissed categorically as those of an ignorant person, to be discarded with a seemingly polite yet sanctimonious air of pity. no...I will not allow you to use the disingenuous twisting of my words....no one here is ignorant...quite the opposite...all of us are less informed on some subjects...if you know, as you read this, what is meant by "3 percenters" you are partially informed....if you don't, you are less informed on this subject....that is all.... The definition of ignorance is lack of knowledge or information. You wrote that if one dismisses your premise, it is due to not being well informed (i.e., lacking information), as though there was no other possibility. As I have written to you previously, opinions are not evidence, and not all opinions fall into the same category. Some opinions require rationale and some degree of data to be taken seriously. Of course, you are free to simply reply with "whatever"...again. |
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Post by utahyank on Sept 10, 2018 17:22:45 GMT -5
no...I will not allow you to use the disingenuous twisting of my words....no one here is ignorant...quite the opposite...all of us are less informed on some subjects...if you know, as you read this, what is meant by "3 percenters" you are partially informed....if you don't, you are less informed on this subject....that is all.... The definition of ignorance is lack of knowledge or information. You wrote that if one dismisses your premise, it is due to not being well informed (i.e., lacking information), as though there was no other possibility. As I have written to you previously, opinions are not evidence, and not all opinions fall into the same category. Some opinions require rationale and some degree of data to be taken seriously. Of course, you are free to simply reply with "whatever"...again. ahhhhh……...if I were of your kind, I would twist your words to say something like " only MY opinions are rational and need to be taken seriously"...…funny indeed at your response…….this is an opinion thread...if you find my opinions irrational or uninformed, you are free....yes, with my blessings,....free to ignore them..... |
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Post by domeplease on Sept 10, 2018 17:44:04 GMT -5
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Post by rizzuto on Sept 10, 2018 17:45:30 GMT -5
The definition of ignorance is lack of knowledge or information. You wrote that if one dismisses your premise, it is due to not being well informed (i.e., lacking information), as though there was no other possibility. As I have written to you previously, opinions are not evidence, and not all opinions fall into the same category. Some opinions require rationale and some degree of data to be taken seriously. Of course, you are free to simply reply with "whatever"...again. ahhhhh……...if I were of your kind, I would twist your words to say something like " only MY opinions are rational and need to be taken seriously"...…funny indeed at your response…….this is an opinion thread...if you find my opinions irrational or uninformed, you are free....yes, with my blessings,....free to ignore them..... I am also free to comment. As I said before, I would never argue if you said in your opinion vanilla was the best flavor of ice cream. However, if you said Andy Van Slyke was a better hitter than Stan Musial, I would expect some rationale or data to take such a claim seriously. And, I did not twist your words; I merely pointed out a specious premise written by you. It may be your opinion that the sun sets in the east, but you would be incorrect. |
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Post by utahyank on Sept 10, 2018 19:14:29 GMT -5
I'll let you have the last word....
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Post by sierchio on Sept 10, 2018 21:06:40 GMT -5
I just read the OP-ED and what I personally got out of it, is what I figured all along. Company won't go the way of all the career criminals aka politicians and blindly support Israel and Saudi Arabia... and they're pissed off he won't get involved in Syria. (They said something about siding with Russia and North Korea over our allies). So much money gets transfered from the Saudi's to political foundations... (Clinton Foundation in particular). Israel readily meddles in our countries affairs (they're a super pacs)...
That's what I got out of it. That's the simple way for me to interpret... but what do I know? I'm just a guy..
DOME.. I saw your post correlating voting for Donald Trump because he promised a climb up the economic ladder to the working class as to some how correlate to drug use? All I got to say is HUH?!?!?! WTF man!?!?!
You're cause and effect skills need some re-working... I've pointed out a couple times on the Yankee side (fun place as Inger calls it) as well...
If you do find a "study" that some how showed Americans who were poorly educated, from a lower social economic class, ect ect where was the study polled from? Was it number of people arrested for drug offenses? We know the poor, under educated in our society are arrested at a higher rate for drug offenses even though they're not disproportioned to those who actually do drugs...
Was it numbers pulled from a rehab? If so, the only public assessable numbers would be from state run rehabs, AKA the people with no insurance or shitty insurance go.. The ones with good insurance/money go to private run rehabs that would never release such information.
Trust me, I've been to both places, everything you listed does not correlate to any addiction.
Inger- People from the Pine Barrens drink, they really frown on drug users (not to say there's not heroin addicts, I'm saying a majority). Most of the drug users I know come from suburban neighborhoods and most of the drug pushers from the cities (Patterson, Newark, Camden, P-Ville, A.C.) I said drug pushers, I wasn't including the doctors.
OH YEAH!!! I FOUND OUT WHY THE COMPANY THAT MADE OXY'S IS PUSHING THIS SUBOXONE DRUG!!! Today it was released the Horizon Blue Cross in Tennesee will NO LONGER cover Oxycontin... which will probably lead to HBC to do the same in other states, which will probably lead to other insurance companies doing the same. OXY (What was it, Purdue?) can't have that!!! They need their corner of the opiate market!! What better way than to release a "new" drug to treat withdraw symptoms of the people who are gonna be going through withdraw from their insurance not covering their drug. Way better way to get press than to pay the press to publish an article about their "new" wonder drug!!!
I was taking subs in jail and getting FUCKED UP for a whole day off an 1/8th of a piece... SUBS are a STRONG drug when you're clean!!! They do do wonders for taking away the withdraw symptoms but similar to methadone is VERY addictive... and the withdraw is WORSE than heroin.
Anyways, that's my .25 cents... For now!!!!
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Post by sierchio on Sept 10, 2018 21:10:04 GMT -5
Oh!!! DOME!! You keep citing tribalism among conservatives BUT you show your own tribalism by calling the right "racist" "bigots" and whatever else you say about them (I usually scroll past that non-sense) It would be like the people on the right labeling democrats "baby killers" "commies" ect It's just showing tribalism... That's what the media wants us to do... DIVIDE and CONQUER !!!!!
ONWARD COMMIE SOLDIER!! NOW GO KILL SOME INNOCENT BABIES AND FUCK SHEEP!!! (okay, I made that last one up, I don't know what conservatives call liberals or what liberals call conservatives because I just tune that SHIT out. It's just the voice of the vocal minority... The minority of a political party always have the loudest voices... or however the saying goes...
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Post by sierchio on Sept 10, 2018 21:10:54 GMT -5
And DO ME!! To alter this "we need evolution not revolution!!" Don't you think you should be pointing out similarities not differences!?!?!?
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Post by sierchio on Sept 10, 2018 21:12:58 GMT -5
Inger- If you mix a DOME with a Sierchio... do you get a litbit?!?!?!
As far as the sleep... I'm working overnights... My grandmas sick... when I get home I usually like to relax for a few.. do some Sierchio things before I go to sleep... I sleep for maybe 2 hours before she wakes me up... and on with my day!! I'll be LUCKY if I get an hour nap.. I'm constantly moving all day long, so I don't get a chance to get tired. Even before my job, I was only sleeping maybe 5-6 hours a night. Usually from 5am-10am..
Anyways, Hope all is well with you!! AND EVERYBODY on this board.
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Post by sierchio on Sept 10, 2018 21:44:59 GMT -5
ONE MORE THING! (sorry)
'Deaths of despair' in rural America helped Trump win presidency
'Deaths of despair' in urban American helped Obama win presidency
You can argue that urban America's education and wealth is just as bad as rural...
But it be silly and fruitless to argue either way..
America voted for Obama because he offered "hope and change" but he achieved neither
America voted for Trump because he offered to "make America great again" will he get the chance to try?
It's clear one thing.. from Obama and Trump.. Americans are fed up with the way the system works... and the average politican...
And if America's so racist that that's why Trump won , how did a black guy win? You would think American's would turn out more to prevent that than to elect Trump...
HINT: Americans as a whole are not RACIST!!!
(see what I did there, I used a DOME)
Anyways, you can see where I'm going with this, so no need for me to go on.. just another point I wanted to make..
I think I'm done for the night, whether I'd like it to or not.. other duties must prevail..
Have a good night all!!!
Peace and Love!!!
Funny how Russia said that the Syrians would use a chemical attack on it's own people and blame it on terrorists and all of a sudden US dropped chemical weapons in Syria... just sayin.. funny how Trump is a mad man but we gave him an extra 8 billion dollars for the military industrial complex... funny how the CIA was caught infiltrating news agencies... and they said they stopped, I believe in the 50's through 60's... funny how we can give an extra 8 billion to war but not to health insurance for all Americans... funny how ObamaCare was a conservative health care.. funny how President JFK was shot shortly after saying he was going to disband the CIA because they were infiltrating our government...
Funny how all these things really aren't funny...
Did I pull a litbit with that?
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Post by inger on Sept 10, 2018 21:53:08 GMT -5
Only one litdbit...We only need one, if we had two he wouldn’t Be one of a kind. I’d love to see him return here...
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Post by sierchio on Sept 10, 2018 22:39:19 GMT -5
This is true about only being one litbit, I was just channeling my inner litbit, we all have one inside us!!! Just no one can be THE one!
I'd love to see him return too so you can decipher his posts for us. LOL
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Post by inger on Sept 10, 2018 22:53:55 GMT -5
This is true about only being one litbit, I was just channeling my inner litbit, we all have one inside us!!! Just no one can be THE one! I'd love to see him return too so you can decipher his posts for us. LOL One thing I couldn’t quite decipher was the short story he wrote and sent to me to critique. For while he was pissed at me for being honest with him that I didn’t get it and couldn’t imagine it getting published. One thing you never want to do is make me pledge to be honest and then ask me to ctritque something and NOT be honest. Poor guy. I hated myself for that for a while, too. I really get a kick out of him, and he was kind enough to invite me to Milwaukee to go clubbing with him. A sandwich, maybe. Clubbing? Milwaukee? Neither one is exactly my milieu if you get my drift... |
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Post by kaybli on Sept 10, 2018 22:56:54 GMT -5
This is true about only being one litbit, I was just channeling my inner litbit, we all have one inside us!!! Just no one can be THE one! I'd love to see him return too so you can decipher his posts for us. LOL One thing I couldn’t quite decipher was the short story he wrote and sent to me to critique. For while he was pissed at me for being honest with him that I didn’t get it and couldn’t imagine it getting published. One thing you never want to do is make me pledge to be honest and then ask me to ctritque something and NOT be honest. Poor guy. I hated myself for that for a while, too. I really get a kick out of him, and he was kind enough to invite me to Milwaukee to go clubbing with him. A sandwich, maybe. Clubbing? Milwaukee? Neither one is exactly my milieu if you get my drift...  He sent you a short story and invited you to go clubbing with him in Milwaukee? That's funny as hell. |
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He sent you a short story and invited you to go clubbing with him in Milwaukee? That's funny as hell.