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Post by rizzuto on May 10, 2024 11:13:16 GMT -5
Remember how gushingly happy he was after leaving the Yankees? |
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Post by chiyankee on May 10, 2024 11:20:04 GMT -5
Was just about to post this as well. From the Yankees to the "Dirty Birds", and he's now pushing 30. Just trying to keep the dream alive. |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 10, 2024 11:23:59 GMT -5
Was just about to post this as well. From the Yankees to the "Dirty Birds", and he's now pushing 30. Just trying to keep the dream alive. Legendary Bat Speed. I feel sorry for the guy. He had talent, but between the injuries and being a headcase, he never put it together except in brief flashes. |
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Post by azbob643 on May 10, 2024 11:38:59 GMT -5
Just trying to keep the dream alive. Legendary Bat Speed. I feel sorry for the guy. He had talent, but between the injuries and being a headcase, he never put it together except in brief flashes. Frazier & Austin Meadows were high school rivals. There was a bit of a competition as to which one would be drafted first. I think Frazier went just before Meadows, who is also out of the game now. |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 10, 2024 11:46:55 GMT -5
Legendary Bat Speed. I feel sorry for the guy. He had talent, but between the injuries and being a headcase, he never put it together except in brief flashes. Frazier & Austin Meadows were high school rivals. There was a bit of a competition as to which one would be drafted first. I think Frazier went just before Meadows, who is also out of the game now. I did not know about the high school rivalry. And I thought Meadows was still lurking with the Tigers, but I see he is not. He's another guy who had some mental health issues. |
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Post by azbob643 on May 10, 2024 11:52:23 GMT -5
Frazier & Austin Meadows were high school rivals. There was a bit of a competition as to which one would be drafted first. I think Frazier went just before Meadows, who is also out of the game now. I did not know about the high school rivalry. And I thought Meadows was still lurking with the Tigers, but I see he is not. He's another guy who had some mental health issues. Frazier bulked up quite a bit by the time he made it to MLB. Here he is playing rookie league ball in AZ...  |
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Post by rizzuto on May 10, 2024 12:07:08 GMT -5
I did not know about the high school rivalry. And I thought Meadows was still lurking with the Tigers, but I see he is not. He's another guy who had some mental health issues. Frazier bulked up quite a bit by the time he made it to MLB. Here he is playing rookie league ball in AZ... Bulkier isn't always better. I wonder what would difference it would have made had he stayed lithe, like a Robin Yount type. |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 10, 2024 12:11:31 GMT -5
Frazier bulked up quite a bit by the time he made it to MLB. Here he is playing rookie league ball in AZ... Bulkier isn't always better. I wonder what would difference it would have made had he stayed lithe, like a Robin Yount type. Yep. True for a lot of guys. Man, he looks like a Little Leaguer in that photo. It used to be verboten to lift weights if you played baseball. |
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Post by rizzuto on May 10, 2024 12:12:58 GMT -5
Bulkier isn't always better. I wonder what would difference it would have made had he stayed lithe, like a Robin Yount type. Yep. True for a lot of guys. Man, he looks like a Little Leaguer in that photo. It used to be verboten to lift weights if you played baseball. Same with basketball. All you could hope for was round shoulders from dribbling and rebounding. |
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Post by azbob643 on May 10, 2024 12:17:54 GMT -5
Frazier bulked up quite a bit by the time he made it to MLB. Here he is playing rookie league ball in AZ... Bulkier isn't always better. I wonder what would difference it would have made had he stayed lithe, like a Robin Yount type. Yep...thought the same thing. I remember when the Yanks traded Andrew Miller to Cleveland they had their choice of either Frazier or Bradley Zimmer in return. I was happy they chose Frazier, but neither lived up to their dreaded "potential" and are both out of baseball. |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 10, 2024 12:18:48 GMT -5
Yep. True for a lot of guys. Man, he looks like a Little Leaguer in that photo. It used to be verboten to lift weights if you played baseball. Same with basketball. All you could hope for was round shoulders from dribbling and rebounding. Yep. I played high school baseball and basketball, and our coaches practically threatened to kick you off the team if they caught you lifting weights. Not that it was that common back then. In his book "The Long Season" pitcher Jim Brosnan of the Cardinals said pretty much the same thing applied in the majors back in 1960. There was concern about being "muscle bound." |
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Post by azbob643 on May 10, 2024 12:25:37 GMT -5
Same with basketball. All you could hope for was round shoulders from dribbling and rebounding. Yep. I played high school baseball and basketball, and our coaches practically threatened to kick you off the team if they caught you lifting weights. Not that it was that common back then. In his book "The Long Season" pitcher Jim Brosnan of the Cardinals said pretty much the same thing applied in the majors back in 1960. There was concern about being "muscle bound." My oldest grandson went to college on a baseball scholarship. Daily weight training was mandatory. Injured himself doing so, and was out of baseball within a year. |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 10, 2024 12:28:20 GMT -5
Yep. I played high school baseball and basketball, and our coaches practically threatened to kick you off the team if they caught you lifting weights. Not that it was that common back then. In his book "The Long Season" pitcher Jim Brosnan of the Cardinals said pretty much the same thing applied in the majors back in 1960. There was concern about being "muscle bound." My oldest grandson went to college on a baseball scholarship. Daily weight training was mandatory. Injured himself doing so, and was out of baseball within a year. Different world. How discouraging. |
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Post by rizzuto on May 10, 2024 12:41:32 GMT -5
Same with basketball. All you could hope for was round shoulders from dribbling and rebounding. Yep. I played high school baseball and basketball, and our coaches practically threatened to kick you off the team if they caught you lifting weights. Not that it was that common back then. In his book "The Long Season" pitcher Jim Brosnan of the Cardinals said pretty much the same thing applied in the majors back in 1960. There was concern about being "muscle bound." When I think of the builds of Ernie Banks, Henry Aaron, Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio, Dave Kingman - even Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle - those guys hit the ball as far and as often as anyone and none appeared to be devotees of weight training. Now, Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton are concentrating more on flexibility than bulking up. Even Mark McGwire in his rookie year was really thin - and hit 49 home runs. |
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Post by JEGnj on May 10, 2024 12:46:51 GMT -5
I still think the Yankees ruined Frazier. They would not let the kid just be himself. Cut the hair and tone it down. Gardy should have retired or moved on but Boone had Gardy right on top off Frazier every misstep or slump. I was worried they would do the same thing to Dugo.
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