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Post by inger on Oct 16, 2018 14:59:50 GMT -5
I believed that Harper’s ego and it’s accompanying disruptive ness could be an issue a couple of years ago, and was dead set against him being on the Yankees. I haven’t read of additional issues since then. Immaturity often has a very simple cure. It’s an elixir made up of age and experience. Some benefit from it, some don’t. I think Harper has grown up.
I would gladly work out a trade to move Stanton in exchange for adding Harper. I’m still quite concerned that Harper would hamstring the finances in the future, so it would depend upon the price and even more the number of years of commitment to him (at least if I were the GM).
So. call me on the fence. I’d rather find another way to get a young LH bat. We have tradeable assets that can do that, and add the pitching we need. But if the Yankees sign Harper, I’ll be accepting of the decision and root for him to succeed.
One other concern I have is...that while OBP is important, I believe we’ve reached a point where it’s become too important in some ratings. You xan’t Hit the ball over the fence if you take hittable pitches early in the count and get behind in the count to where you won’t see another hittable pitch. I want a couple of rakers in the lineup to move the Judge-types along once they get on base. Extending innings is nice. But LOB aren’t. Plus, with the new bullpen concept employed by many teams with matchup capabilities vs. short benches it isn’t always a great strategy to drive the starting pitchers from the game...
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 16, 2018 20:08:28 GMT -5
Machado says he isn’t “Johnny Hustle”.
Pass
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Post by inger on Oct 16, 2018 20:14:35 GMT -5
Machado says he isn’t “Johnny Hustle”. Pass When he’s looking to sign a free agent contract? He said what? He’s also not Johnny Smarts. Even Borass can’t polish that turd...I’d be really tickled if he wound up having to take a one year “ make good” contract playing for a hustle-obsessed manager...Hey, Manny... how about $500,000 for 2019??? But you know what? Someone will open the vault. Philly is a top candidate to do it. They’ve got money to burn. May they sign him and see him become a .250 hitter...They’ll certainly cheer him loudly in Philly if he flops... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 21:29:20 GMT -5
He will certainly have to have a come to Jesus moment to get back in peoples' good graces. Both he and Harper are dented in my view. I do think the Yankees will be in on one of them. Maybe we should shy away from both and look to capture two SPs?
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Post by mrradix on Oct 16, 2018 21:59:27 GMT -5
He will certainly have to have a come to Jesus moment to get back in peoples' good graces. Both he and Harper are dented in my view. I do think the Yankees will be in on one of them. Maybe we should shy away from both and look to capture two SPs? The Yankees need two starting pitchers. Whether, or not, they pursue Harper and/or Machado is a separate issue. (and I think Corbin might be the only FA starter worth pursuing.) |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 16, 2018 22:23:06 GMT -5
He will certainly have to have a come to Jesus moment to get back in peoples' good graces. Both he and Harper are dented in my view. I do think the Yankees will be in on one of them. Maybe we should shy away from both and look to capture two SPs? The Yankees need two starting pitchers. Whether, or not, they pursue Harper and/or Machado is a separate issue. (and I think Corbin might be the only FA starter worth pursuing.) I agree, the free agent market is weak for starting pitching so Cashman might have to go the trade route. |
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Post by inger on Oct 16, 2018 23:33:29 GMT -5
The Yankees need two starting pitchers. Whether, or not, they pursue Harper and/or Machado is a separate issue. (and I think Corbin might be the only FA starter worth pursuing.) I agree, the free agent market is weak for starting pitching so Cashman might have to go the trade route. But, who do they go after? My suggestions in my earlier post were: Jose Berrios, from Minnesota, Reynaldo Lopez from the White Sox, Robbie Ray from Arizona, either Taillon or Williams from Pittsburgh (sort of low end options), or the big three out of NY, DeGrom, Wheeler, or Syndergaard...and finally, if you want to go the FA route, you have to look at Corbin, and if Kershaw opts out...he's a bit dangerous at this point, but the talent is there...I get flashbacks of Andy Messersmith and Don Gullet when I think of getting Kershaw... Obviously, I'm looking not only for pitchers that can be of serious help, but are for the most part still young and controllable at reasonable prices in the trade suggestions...and on teams that are not serious contenders, with the exception of the Diamondbacks. The D-Backs may feel like a tweak would put them among the contenders, so if we had MLB talent to deal...like say Stanton, or even Andujar or Torres...they may talk without taking much out of the farm system...I guess that with Didi gone for at least a year, we'll not be likely to deal Torres. In another scenario, he could be moved to third base if we dealt Andujar...Lots of options out there...But what will the cost be??? |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 17, 2018 0:49:10 GMT -5
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Post by mrradix on Oct 17, 2018 1:30:04 GMT -5
Like Big George used to say: "That's not Yankee." |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 17, 2018 8:30:46 GMT -5
But he did score the winning run and he was actually running. |
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 17, 2018 9:48:03 GMT -5
Really weak. I thought it was noteworthy that Yellich called him out so explicitly. That play was a little too close to Slappy McBlueLips Rodriguez and his stunt with Bronson Arroyo for my taste. |
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Post by inger on Oct 17, 2018 10:11:10 GMT -5
I think the league needs a bit more discipline restored. A classless move like that could have wound up in an injury. He should have been tossed and fined. The same thing with equipment abuse, throwing the bat, slamming the helmet down, breaking the bat over your knee. It's such poor sportsmanship and I hate to see it...Toss 'em, fine 'em, suspend 'em. Make them act like professional adults...Put them in a corner of the dugout with dunce cap on, too for all I care. They're not adults...
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Post by inger on Oct 17, 2018 15:57:33 GMT -5
I guess I have have just a couple more thoughts about Manny Machado that I’d like to express before I move on and probably never think much more about him unless the Yankees sign him.
I don’t think the Yankees will sign him by the way. The deal is that if he’s dumb enough to behave the way he has in the post season, and before he’s been signed to the largest contract he’ll ever get, then he’s so dumb that everybody already knew what he is.
He already showed that he considered himself to be bigger and more important than the Orioles when he insisted on playing short stop this past season. If I had been the Orioles’ GM, I might have traded him the day after he made that announcement, and maybe cheaper than otherwise. It was pretty obvious at that point that they had a bad team, and that Machado wasn’t going to be returning unless the Orioles were going to offer the most money.
Somebody will be paying for “that” to be a leading example to the rest of their team. Unlike what I perceived about Harper, I don’t feel as though this little boy has matured into a man. He’s a spoiled brat that loves the spotlight and believes his talent means people will put up with his bullshit. Whoever does sign him will deserve him...
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 17, 2018 17:03:52 GMT -5
Just say Nochado.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 21:27:20 GMT -5
I’m thinking they will sign him and he will be given the Yankee lecture after the signing. He wants to be a Yankee, is friends with Sevi, Judge and Stanton, who will be tasked with showing him the light. Also, there is a clear and present need at the position. I can’t see them putting Torres out there or signing a stopgap hoping that DIdi will return as the same player he was, or even returning at all in 2019. I didn’t say I liked it, but I think it will happen. Harper has issues also and would be a target, but with Judge, Hicks and Stanton, plus either Gardner or Frazier there seems to be no room. I’m thinking they will sign Machado and Corbin and maybe Happ.
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