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Post by inger on Oct 17, 2018 22:46:19 GMT -5
Having no room in the of may not prevent the Yankees from signing Harper. They may be able to make a trade to open anof slot. also Harped has stated he’d play first base for the right team...
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 18, 2018 10:38:35 GMT -5
Having no room in the of may not prevent the Yankees from signing Harper. They may be able to make a trade to open anof slot. also Harped has stated he’d play first base for the right team... Harper is one year younger than Luke Voit and the same age as Greg Bird. Though he is similar to our other hitters (power and strike outs) he is that left-handed pop that we’re missing. We could trade high on Voit and Hicks, and keep Gardner as a CF and fourth OF, as I don’t think we can avoid an Ellsbury return. I do not want to lose Andujar, so no on Machado. Hechevarria can fill in for Didi until he’s rehabbed and ready. To my eyes, Gleyber has more potential to be a great defensive second baseman than a great defensive shortstop. And, I worry about his hip problem at only 21/22 years old. Once Didi is back, Gleyber would be great trade bait for pitching. |
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Post by mrradix on Oct 18, 2018 12:22:18 GMT -5
Having no room in the of may not prevent the Yankees from signing Harper. They may be able to make a trade to open anof slot. also Harped has stated he’d play first base for the right team... Harper is one year younger than Luke Voit and the same age as Greg Bird. Though he is similar to our other hitters (power and strike outs) he is that left-handed pop that we’re missing. We could trade high on Voit and Hicks, and keep Gardner as a CF and fourth OF, as I don’t think we can avoid an Ellsbury return. I do not want to lose Andujar, so no on Machado. Hechevarria can fill in for Didi until he’s rehabbed and ready. To my eyes, Gleyber has more potential to be a great defensive second baseman than a great defensive shortstop. And, I worry about his hip problem at only 21/22 years old. Once Didi is back, Gleyber would be great trade bait for pitching. Gleyber Torres is not getting traded. As for Gardner, I'd be surprised to see him re-signed. Ellsbury? I don't know. Who does? I'd guess that the Yankees haven't figured out that one yet, either. He hurts them in the budget, but not much in the pocketbook, as they've got insurance on him. As for Harper, I'll say again that I think his bat is what the Yankees need. His saying that he'd be open to playing first base was all about the Yankees. Hicks is a good centerfielder and he had a very solid season. There's every reason to expect that he'll continue in that direction. I figure he's a keeper until, and unless, something better comes along. Didi's return won't signal that Torres will get moved to the trade block. It might just signal that Torres will move back to his better defensive position at 2B. Corbin should get signed. I could see--and would love to see--the Yanks make a play for the apparently available Robbie Ray. They've got the talent to work out a deal, for sure. A rotation of Severino/Tanaka/Corbin/Ray/Rookie could be killer. |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 18, 2018 17:32:46 GMT -5
Harper is one year younger than Luke Voit and the same age as Greg Bird. Though he is similar to our other hitters (power and strike outs) he is that left-handed pop that we’re missing. We could trade high on Voit and Hicks, and keep Gardner as a CF and fourth OF, as I don’t think we can avoid an Ellsbury return. I do not want to lose Andujar, so no on Machado. Hechevarria can fill in for Didi until he’s rehabbed and ready. To my eyes, Gleyber has more potential to be a great defensive second baseman than a great defensive shortstop. And, I worry about his hip problem at only 21/22 years old. Once Didi is back, Gleyber would be great trade bait for pitching. Gleyber Torres is not getting traded. As for Gardner, I'd be surprised to see him re-signed. Ellsbury? I don't know. Who does? I'd guess that the Yankees haven't figured out that one yet, either. He hurts them in the budget, but not much in the pocketbook, as they've got insurance on him. As for Harper, I'll say again that I think his bat is what the Yankees need. His saying that he'd be open to playing first base was all about the Yankees. Hicks is a good centerfielder and he had a very solid season. There's every reason to expect that he'll continue in that direction. I figure he's a keeper until, and unless, something better comes along. Didi's return won't signal that Torres will get moved to the trade block. It might just signal that Torres will move back to his better defensive position at 2B. Corbin should get signed. I could see--and would love to see--the Yanks make a play for the apparently available Robbie Ray. They've got the talent to work out a deal, for sure. A rotation of Severino/Tanaka/Corbin/Ray/Rookie could be killer. I don't consider Gleyber untouchable, and I'd prefer him not to play shortstop at all. If the Yankees want to trade for a number one starter, they will have to match with young, talented position players. I'd rather keep Andujar than Torres - that was my point. The point of trading Torres once Didi returns is about offense during the interim. In other words, having both Didi and Torres gone at the same time really shortens the line up. Since Didi must be out due to TJ surgery, it would make sense to hold on to Torres' bat at second base, while Heche subs at short. Once Didi returns to form, Heche can man second if Torres can fetch a bonifide ace. As for National League pitchers who aren't instant number one starters, I'm very hesitant to trade anything of value. |
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Post by inger on Oct 18, 2018 18:32:25 GMT -5
I think having Ann Heche play ANYWHERE on this team would greatly weaken us offensively and defensively. Is she still with Ellen, by the way? Because next thing you know she’ll be wanting to play in the same infield for some ground-breaking reason, and...
Oh? Not that Heche? Well, then disregard my post. As if you weren’t going to...
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Post by inger on Oct 18, 2018 18:43:43 GMT -5
I’ve brought up trading Torres before, and it doesn’t play real well here for the most part. Why? His first half of the season was off-the-charts great. The second half were not as good. Hey, that happens. Adjustment period and all that. He made several key errors afield. That happens too often with rookies. They learn to stop trying to force plays and let the game come to them. He was embarrassingly tossed out on the bases several times due to over-aggressiveness. That’s fixable, too.
I think he’s going to be a fine player. But I’m am concerned about his hip issues, and if we could get a top-flight pitcher for him I would take the chance that he’ll make us regret losing him on a calculated risk. In my perfect scenario we’d follow trading Gleyber with another trade for Whit Merrifield to add his dynamic OBP and speed combination to our offense. Yeah, Whit will be 30 next year, but I’m good with that. I find our walk, walk, and then boom or bust offense a bit boring and frustrating and would love to see us create some runs...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 19:03:51 GMT -5
I don't think that there is any question that that the Yankees are going to sign Machado, guys. I have no inside poop, but the possibility of a Hechevarria type playing SS next season, maybe the entire season is a non starter, unless the Yankees decide they want to remain under the tax penalty and roll the dice. Machado gives the team the best offence at the position and is above average defensively. He can slide over to third base IF Didi returns next season, where he is awesome and Miggy can go to the OF, DH or first. I don't think Hicks is going anywhere and unless Gardner takes a big haircut, he won't be around unless Frazier is jettisoned in a deal that brings in more pitching. I'm not a big Manny guy in terms of his intangibles, but for the team to have the best chance of winning a championship in 2019, I feel Manny is part of the equation, and I think the front office will see it the same way.
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Post by inger on Oct 18, 2018 19:11:50 GMT -5
Hechevarria is a wizard in the field. If we can survive the offensive debacles we did in 2018 at 1B, C, and various positions due due inexplicable and damned near historical slumps and injuries, we can survive having a .250 hitting SS that’s going to stun us with his fielding game after game...
As good as Didi is afield, he can’t pick it like Hechevarria. We’d be fine with him plugging that hole...
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Post by kaybli on Oct 18, 2018 19:35:17 GMT -5
unless Gardner takes a big haircut,  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 19:39:31 GMT -5
That’s assuming Bird will somehow morph into his potential in 2019, or that Voit in an entire season is the same guy he was for 38 games in 2018, Sanchez will make the necessary adjustments that pitchers have made to him, Didi will come back from major reconstructive elbow surgery and be the same player as this year in the final month or two, if in fact he comes back at all next season, the injury gods will take pity on the Yankees and let them be healthy, etc... I Guess I’m not buying all of that. I know there is a visceral dislike of Machado, but looking at the teams best chance to win number 28, I think Manny is a part of that equation. Plus, as you know, inger, I love a lively conversation.
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 18, 2018 19:49:04 GMT -5
That’s assuming Bird will somehow morph into his potential in 2019, or that Voit in an entire season is the same guy he was for 38 games in 2018, Sanchez will make the necessary adjustments that pitchers have made to him, Didi will come back from major reconstructive elbow surgery and be the same player as this year in the final month or two, if in fact he comes back at all next season, the injury gods will take pity on the Yankees and let them be healthy, etc... I Guess I’m not buying all of that. I know there is a visceral dislike of Machado, but looking at the teams best chance to win number 28, I think Manny is a part of that equation. Plus, as you know, inger, I love a lively conversation. Chuck, you are forgetting that Harper is playing first base... |
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Post by inger on Oct 18, 2018 20:17:21 GMT -5
unless Gardner takes a big haircut, More like a scalp waxing... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 21:02:41 GMT -5
Finance term meaning a pay cut, fellas.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 21:04:33 GMT -5
I wouldn’t mind Harper at first for plan B, Rizz.
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Post by inger on Oct 18, 2018 21:36:50 GMT -5
That’s assuming Bird will somehow morph into his potential in 2019, or that Voit in an entire season is the same guy he was for 38 games in 2018, Sanchez will make the necessary adjustments that pitchers have made to him, Didi will come back from major reconstructive elbow surgery and be the same player as this year in the final month or two, if in fact he comes back at all next season, the injury gods will take pity on the Yankees and let them be healthy, etc... I Guess I’m not buying all of that. I know there is a visceral dislike of Machado, but looking at the teams best chance to win number 28, I think Manny is a part of that equation. Plus, as you know, inger, I love a lively conversation. Yes, lively conversation seems to be right up your alley. It’s why we love ya’...nothing worse than a forum for boring folks...Karl’s Land of Mensa would be an example... |
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