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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 19, 2018 2:47:03 GMT -5
Eovaldi (2-0 1.88 ERA) starts and relieves for Boston, a critical piece that got them to the World Series. Letting that guy go to the Red Sox bites the Yankees in the post season ass. To be fair he was not very good before the TJS he was pretty inconsistent. Theres no guarantee he pitches like this for the yanks if they made the trade instead. Would he have been better than Lance Lynn? Sure, but Happ turned out to be pretty good for the Yankees unfortunately for them one of his weaker starts was game 1 of the ALDS. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 19, 2018 2:47:37 GMT -5
MLB had no problem reversing Angel Hernandez calls, I guess the same doesn't imply to Joe West. I quit watching the game after that, since it seemed more like fake pro wrestling than a real sport. I should have stopped following too. Unfortunately, I didn't. [img class="smile" src="//storage.proboards.com/6828121/images/ZVUxStWfuuhWOBrKaeKL.gif" alt="  "] Once the yankees are out of it the season has ended for me. Screw all the other teams. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 5:18:21 GMT -5
For what it’s worth, the Yankees gave the Sox more of a fight than Houston. We should have won at least one of those one run games. Who knows what would have happened in game five? It takes a lot of luck to win a championship usually, unless you are the ‘’98 Yanks and just steamroll the opposition. Boston has a very good, but not great team. Sort of like us and Houston. I’m not mad at anybody.
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Post by kaybli on Oct 19, 2018 10:39:58 GMT -5
I, on the other hand, am very mad. At everybody! Bunch of Boston bums! When did Jackie Bradley Jr. forget that he sucked?!?  |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 19, 2018 15:46:29 GMT -5
I, on the other hand, am very mad. At everybody! Bunch of Boston bums! When did Jackie Bradley Jr. forget that he sucked?!? Their town has had so much success geeez |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 19, 2018 15:51:00 GMT -5
I was seriously considering "moderating" your last post, anthony. No one wants to see that shit. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 19, 2018 16:31:02 GMT -5
I think some of you are underestimating just what this Red Sox team has achieved. Now it won't mean squat if they don't finish the deal and win the World Series, and believe me I will be pulling for either the Dodgers (that is really hard for me to do) or the Brewers (meh) in any event.
Since the 162 game schedule began in 1961, only seven times has a team won at least 108 games. They are:
1961 Yankees -- 109 (won WS)
1969 Orioles -- 109 (lost WS)
1970 Orioles -- 108 (won WS)
1975 Reds -- 108 (won WS)
1986 Mets -- 108 (won WS)
1998 Yankees -- 114 (won WS, we play today, we win today)
2001 Mariners -- 116 (lost ALCS)
2018 Red Sox -- 108 (TBD)
If they top this off with a World Series win -- and personally I think whoever wins the NL will be lucky to win two games and may well be swept -- they could easily and truthfully make the claim to be the most dominant team in baseball since the 1998 Yankees. I guess we all have our criteria about what constitutes a great team, but since only four times in the expansion era has a team won more than Boston did this year, and two of those failed to bring home a ring, if (and only if) Boston wins the World Series, I think they have to go down as a historically great team. If there is some valid measuring stick beyond regular season wins plus post-season success, I don't know what it would be.
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Post by kaybli on Oct 19, 2018 16:51:42 GMT -5
It'll be a cold day in hell before I give those bums from Boston any credit at all. Half their lineup (Pearce/Moreland, Kinsler, Devers/Nunez, whichever shitty catcher they want to put out there, and JBJ) are scrubs. Sale is gimpy. Price is a choker. All of a sudden Elvodia is a world beater? Screw that Pineda wannabe. Their bullpen is atrocious. Kimbrel has been shaky as hell. Luckiest team ever. This is a Yankee board. Stop telling me how good and historic the Red Sox are! Lalalalala I can't hear you lalalalala!
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 19, 2018 17:48:37 GMT -5
It'll be a cold day in hell before I give those bums from Boston any credit at all. Half their lineup (Pearce/Moreland, Kinsler, Devers/Nunez, whichever shitty catcher they want to put out there, and JBJ) are scrubs. Sale is gimpy. Price is a choker. All of a sudden Elvodia is a world beater? Screw that Pineda wannabe. Their bullpen is atrocious. Kimbrel has been shaky as hell. Luckiest team ever. This is a Yankee board. Stop telling me how good and historic the Red Sox are! Lalalalala I can't hear you lalalalala! Believe me Kaybli, it's painful to me to point this stuff out. I yield to no one in my hatred of the Red Sox. Jeez, I was living less than a mile from goddam Fenway Park in 2004 and had to watch their unbearable drunk violent vomiting fans streaming down Commonwealth Avenue -- the street I lived on -- chanting "Yankees Suck" until 3 in the morning. I loved it when Wells said "they should blow this (effing) place up" when referring to that dump. If Paulie or Bernie had given me the signal, I would have gladly done it myself. They aren't the equal of the 98 Yankees, no question. I am interlocking NY up to the point I breathe my last. But I have to be honest. Yes, this team has defects -- the 98 Yanks had very few beyond the hole in LF -- but they are fundamentally outstanding and execute in a way I wish the Yankees could. I will repeat, they have to close the deal by winning the World Series if they want to have any claim to historical greatness. But man, 108 victory seasons don't grow on trees, and nobody is lucky for six months. That is why for one of the few times in my life (and the others nearly always involved Boston) I will be pulling for the NL team in the World Series. No ring, no historical greatness. |
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Post by inger on Oct 19, 2018 18:09:24 GMT -5
This year the Red Sox = TEAM. They played like a team, and deserve everything they’ve gotten.
The Yankees played like a collection of good players, all looking to be the HR hero of the night. Something must be done either about the makeup of the team, or the management of the team to change that. Even with good health, had they beat Boston out during the season, I soulful have been pleased with the results, but not with the methodology...
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Post by kaybli on Oct 19, 2018 18:25:43 GMT -5
This year the Red Sox = TEAM. They played like a team, and deserve everything they’ve gotten. Please quantify what "playing like a team" means. You keep saying this and I don't understand. |
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Post by inger on Oct 19, 2018 18:52:38 GMT -5
This year the Red Sox = TEAM. They played like a team, and deserve everything they’ve gotten. Please quantify what "playing like a team" means. You keep saying this and I don't understand. Hitting in the clutch, fielding more sharply and crisply, making contact when there are ducks on the pond. Employing strategies like the hit and run, stealing bases. They played winning baseball the way I like to see it played. We played beer league softball... I don’t want to change alliances, I’d just like to see our team with some roster adjustments that would allow us to play that way... I would also say they did a better job of having hot hitters pick up the slack for cold or injured players. Perhaps part of this is a fluke, perhaps. Or, but I would have liked not always hoping for a ninth inning three run HR. And the manager is part of the problem, too. These dumbass rest days for 20-25 year old kids made me want to puke... |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 19, 2018 19:49:01 GMT -5
Please quantify what "playing like a team" means. You keep saying this and I don't understand. Hitting in the clutch, fielding more sharply and crisply, making contact when there are ducks on the pond. Employing strategies like the hit and run, stealing bases. They played winning baseball the way I like to see it played. We played beer league softball... I don’t want to change alliances, I’d just like to see our team with some roster adjustments that would allow us to play that way... I would also say they did a better job of having hot hitters pick up the slack for cold or injured players. Perhaps part of this is a fluke, perhaps. Or, but I would have liked not always hoping for a ninth inning three run HR. And the manager is part of the problem, too. These dumbass rest days for 20-25 year old kids made me want to puke... I find it hard to disagree with this. Naturally, any time a team puts together a season like Boston has, pretty much everything has to go right. Being relatively healthy, having people who put together career years, having unexpected players (say like Scott Brosius or Graeme Lloyd or Shane Spencer) turn up big at key times. It's hard to replicate, and I doubt Boston will do so in 2019, although they will almost certainly still be strong. To me, they seem like a very fundamentally sound team which rarely beats itself. Not loaded with HOFers (time will tell), but neither were the 98 Yanks -- Mo and Jeter for sure, and a 38-year-old part timer in Tim Raines already in -- lots of Hall of Very Good. But if they choke up the ring, nobody will care about how they did up to now. And I hope they choke up the ring. |
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Post by inger on Oct 19, 2018 20:00:43 GMT -5
Thanks, Pipps. Shortly after I typed that post there was a quote on “Jeopardy” that summed up how I felt while typing. They quoted Ed Koch when he said “I can explain it to you. I can’t comprehend it for you”.
I’m just glad someone got it...
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Post by kaybli on Oct 19, 2018 22:43:44 GMT -5
Please quantify what "playing like a team" means. You keep saying this and I don't understand. Hitting in the clutch, fielding more sharply and crisply, making contact when there are ducks on the pond. Employing strategies like the hit and run, stealing bases. They played winning baseball the way I like to see it played. We played beer league softball... Hitting in the clutch, fielding, making contact, doing the hit and run, and stealing really don't have much to do with "playing like a team." These are still individual things a player does. Maybe fielding requires two or more players if its a groundball or someone to catch an outfield assist. In the hit and run, most of the onus in on the batter to make contact. What I'm saying in baseball, most everything is based on individual performances. Get a bunch of these outstanding individual performances and you're likely to win. It's not like basketball or football. Things like "team chemistry" are so overrated in my opinion.
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