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Post by utahyank on Jun 17, 2019 15:26:41 GMT -5
Young Tom Morris, Harry Vardon, Walter Hagen, Bobby Jones, Ben Hogan, Byron Nelson, Sam Sneed, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, and Tiger Woods...those are the top ten golfers of all time in my opinion. For a Mount Rushmore, I'd have to go with Bobby Jones, Ben Hogan, Jack Nicklaus, and Tiger Woods....but man Nelson is difficult to leave off the mountain (He retired at age 34 to become a rancher). I must respectfully disagree regarding Nicklaus and Woods, though. Nicklaus had the same swing his entire career, and not coincidently the same golf coach until his death - Jack Grout. Tiger has gone through swing coaches, golf clubs, caddies, etc. like he's gone through waitresses. Also, Nicklaus was a consummate family man. His family traveled with him to nearly every tournament, and he sometimes would fly home after a tournament round to watch his kids' basketball, football, and baseball games! This was a huge reason why Nicklaus sometime eschewed the press. In fact, I would argue that - early in his career as you mentioned - Jack was not as reluctant with the press, as they were with him. Jack once said, "I may have had to contend with Arnie's fans but never with Arnie." They were always friends, even as rivals. In short, Jack was not consumed with golf, as he was with his family. He was not maniacal about practice and back then golf was not year-round - there was a season. Nicklaus once said, "If you play, you only hit 30-odd full shots during a four-hour round. I can practice for an hour, hit all my clubs, and spend the other three hours fishing." Nicklaus was also not a mad science, golf club tinkerer like Hogan, Palmer, and Trevino. Jack only became a golf course designer because he lost nearly everything he made in golf and endorsements - due to his being an easy touch with family and friends. Many, many bad investments, being overly trusting and far too helpful to people in need. Jack has always been gracious. By comparison, Tiger Woods is a jerk to fans, to kids, has one of the foulest mouths on tour, is notoriously cheap, and universally known as a horrible tipper. Golf defines Tiger as a person and is lost without it; not so with Nicklaus. In fact, Nicklaus would have retired much sooner, had he not been in financial straits from the middle of his career. Nicklaus has 18 majors, 19 second place finishes in majors, and competed against the toughest field of "great golfers" ever. He played his first major with Ben Hogan. Hogan once said, "I played with a kid today who if he knew what he was doing should have won the tournament by ten strokes!" Nicklaus' proudest moment was not winning Augusta in 1986 at the age of 46; it was having his son Jackie as his caddie during it all. Rizz, I'm not sure we disagree at all. Or if so, only in the most minuscule way. In my original post that was zapped, I mentioned Young Tom Morris as maybe the most forgotten golf superstar ever. He was, at least insofar as his play was concerned, the Tiger Woods of his day. A tragic death at an extremely young age. And Old Tom may have been the first golfer eligible for canonization. Byron Nelson also belongs in the saint category. Maybe Francis Ouimet too. I think my Top Ten of all time would be identical to yours. And my Rushmore too. I might put Hagen before Nelson, but not worth quibbling about. Lord Byron's run of victories -- wasn't it 17 in one year, something like eleven in a row? -- is as untouchable as Cy Young's 511 victories. I do think some of it came in a thinned-out field at the tail end of WW II. Although nobody else was coming close to achieving that, then or ever. It does my heart good to see a mention of Harry Vardon. In some ways he did for golf in the US what Babe Ruth did for baseball in Japan. Brought it to the people. There are a few clips of him on the course which are fun to watch. Amazing that he and his partner on tour, Ted Ray, were both from the little island of Jersey Jack is my favorite golfer that I have personally watched, and pretty much for the reasons you eloquently stated. A class act all the way, from a class family. If Bobby Jones was able to pick up on his ability while I think Jack was still an amateur, that says it all. Jones is probably my favorite historical golfer. The total integrity, the intellect, the ultimately successful but lifelong struggle to control a volcanic temper, the textbook swing, the love of the game, the appreciation of a good cocktail and most importantly the absolute courage in dealing with a horrendous illness for so many years. On the short list of all-time American sportsmen. Somewhere in my second ten would have to be Cary Middlecoff. The dentist. Didn't turn pro until age 26, retired from the tour at age 40, yet is still in the Top Ten all time for PGA tour wins. I remember watching him as a kid and then for many years listening to him as a golf analyst. You know Vijay Singh's record is pretty amazing too. He didn't join the PGA tour until he was 30 years old, yet still racked up 30 tour wins along with three majors. Phil would be in my second ten. Billy Casper too, a wonderful if rather bland tactician forever in the shadow of the Big Three. Which reminds me Gary Player is in that second wave as well. Tom Watson. Lee Trevino. Raymond Floyd perhaps. Gene The Machine Littler. Probably getting too far into the weeds now. I just love talking about the old golfers. just want to add a mention for Johnny Miller..... |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 17, 2019 15:35:38 GMT -5
Johnny Miller. Thank you Utah. A short but brilliant career. He looked like he might be the next Nicklaus when he came on the scene. A tremendous golfer of elite skill.
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 17, 2019 16:04:22 GMT -5
Johnny Miller. Thank you Utah. A short but brilliant career. He looked like he might be the next Nicklaus when he came on the scene. A tremendous golfer of elite skill. Thanks for joining the golf thread!! We need more customers over here. Yes, Byron Nelson won 11 straight and 18 tournaments in 1945, including the only major played that year. He set a record that stood for years - 68.3 scoring average! That’s why the annual award is named after him. Even more impressive, he finished in the top twenty of 113 tournaments in a row! Both he and Hogan worked as caddies at Garden Glen CC in Fort Worth (no longer in existence, alas) and played against each other as teens. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 17, 2019 16:51:42 GMT -5
Johnny Miller. Thank you Utah. A short but brilliant career. He looked like he might be the next Nicklaus when he came on the scene. A tremendous golfer of elite skill. Thanks for joining the golf thread!! We need more customers over here. Yes, Byron Nelson won 11 straight and 18 tournaments in 1945, including the only major played that year. He set a record that stood for years - 68.3 scoring average! That’s why the annual award is named after him. Even more impressive, he finished in the top twenty of 113 tournaments in a row! Both he and Hogan worked as caddies at Garden Glen CC in Fort Worth (no longer in existence, alas) and played against each other as teens. Thanks for that historical nugget, Rizz. A 68.3 average under 1945 conditions would probably be like a 63 today. Byron and Ben grew up in the same time and place, but could hardly have been more different, as I am sure you know. I think most of us would have preferred dealing with Byron. I remember even Tiger Woods was very deferential to him when he played that tournament. Funny that Nelson, Hogan and Snead, the three greatest golfers of their era, were all born within a few months of each other in 1912. Snead was quite a showman and very popular with the public, but from what I have read he was less popular with his golfing peers. |
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Post by domeplease on Jun 18, 2019 11:08:45 GMT -5
BRAVO!!!
www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/us-open-champ-gary-woodland-surprises-special-olympics-golfer-who-inspired-him/ar-AAD3W6D?li=BBnb7Kz
As Gary Woodland faced the pressure-packed finish on the way to his first U.S. Open championship, he heard the voice of an inspiring fellow golfer in his head telling him one simple thing: You got this!
The newly-minted champion was able to thank Amy Bockerstette in person for that bit of inspiration when he surprised her on TODAY Tuesday.
"We had a special day there in Phoenix and it's blossomed from there, but the world needs a lot more of Amy,'' Woodland said on TODAY. "Her attitude, her energy is contagious. I thought a lot about you on Sunday. I think a lot about you every day, so thank you."
The two first met when Woodland, 35, and Bockerstette, 20, who has Down syndrome, played the famous par-3 16th hole at TPC Scottsdale together ahead of the Waste Management Phoenix Open in January.
Bockerstette made an impressive par on the hole, and the video posted by the PGA was watched more than 20 million times. Fans and commenters appeared smitten by Bockerstette's infectious enthusiasm as she confidently told herself, "I got this."
"It's her love for life,'' Woodland told TODAY. "Life's not always bells and whistles, it's not always gonna be great, but your energy's contagious.
"That's the only thing you can control is your attitude, and she controls her attitude beautifully. I learned a lot from her that day (in Phoenix). I was more nervous for her on that day than I was playing at any time last week. She executed under the gun, under pressure, people all around her. It was a special day."
Bockerstette made sure she didn't miss a shot by Woodland in the final two days of the U.S. Open as she watched on television with her family. READ MORE...
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Post by inger on Jun 18, 2019 11:17:01 GMT -5
Young Tom Morris, Harry Vardon, Walter Hagen, Bobby Jones, Ben Hogan, Byron Nelson, Sam Sneed, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, and Tiger Woods...those are the top ten golfers of all time in my opinion. For a Mount Rushmore, I'd have to go with Bobby Jones, Ben Hogan, Jack Nicklaus, and Tiger Woods....but man Nelson is difficult to leave off the mountain (He retired at age 34 to become a rancher). I must respectfully disagree regarding Nicklaus and Woods, though. Nicklaus had the same swing his entire career, and not coincidently the same golf coach until his death - Jack Grout. Tiger has gone through swing coaches, golf clubs, caddies, etc. like he's gone through waitresses. Also, Nicklaus was a consummate family man. His family traveled with him to nearly every tournament, and he sometimes would fly home after a tournament round to watch his kids' basketball, football, and baseball games! This was a huge reason why Nicklaus sometime eschewed the press. In fact, I would argue that - early in his career as you mentioned - Jack was not as reluctant with the press, as they were with him. Jack once said, "I may have had to contend with Arnie's fans but never with Arnie." They were always friends, even as rivals. In short, Jack was not consumed with golf, as he was with his family. He was not maniacal about practice and back then golf was not year-round - there was a season. Nicklaus once said, "If you play, you only hit 30-odd full shots during a four-hour round. I can practice for an hour, hit all my clubs, and spend the other three hours fishing." Nicklaus was also not a mad science, golf club tinkerer like Hogan, Palmer, and Trevino. Jack only became a golf course designer because he lost nearly everything he made in golf and endorsements - due to his being an easy touch with family and friends. Many, many bad investments, being overly trusting and far too helpful to people in need. Jack has always been gracious. By comparison, Tiger Woods is a jerk to fans, to kids, has one of the foulest mouths on tour, is notoriously cheap, and universally known as a horrible tipper. Golf defines Tiger as a person and is lost without it; not so with Nicklaus. In fact, Nicklaus would have retired much sooner, had he not been in financial straits from the middle of his career. Nicklaus has 18 majors, 19 second place finishes in majors, and competed against the toughest field of "great golfers" ever. He played his first major with Ben Hogan. Hogan once said, "I played with a kid today who if he knew what he was doing should have won the tournament by ten strokes!" Nicklaus' proudest moment was not winning Augusta in 1986 at the age of 46; it was having his son Jackie as his caddie during it all. Rizz, I'm not sure we disagree at all. Or if so, only in the most minuscule way. In my original post that was zapped, I mentioned Young Tom Morris as maybe the most forgotten golf superstar ever. He was, at least insofar as his play was concerned, the Tiger Woods of his day. A tragic death at an extremely young age. And Old Tom may have been the first golfer eligible for canonization. Byron Nelson also belongs in the saint category. Maybe Francis Ouimet too. I think my Top Ten of all time would be identical to yours. And my Rushmore too. I might put Hagen before Nelson, but not worth quibbling about. Lord Byron's run of victories -- wasn't it 17 in one year, something like eleven in a row? -- is as untouchable as Cy Young's 511 victories. I do think some of it came in a thinned-out field at the tail end of WW II. Although nobody else was coming close to achieving that, then or ever. It does my heart good to see a mention of Harry Vardon. In some ways he did for golf in the US what Babe Ruth did for baseball in Japan. Brought it to the people. There are a few clips of him on the course which are fun to watch. Amazing that he and his partner on tour, Ted Ray, were both from the little island of Jersey Jack is my favorite golfer that I have personally watched, and pretty much for the reasons you eloquently stated. A class act all the way, from a class family. If Bobby Jones was able to pick up on his ability while I think Jack was still an amateur, that says it all. Jones is probably my favorite historical golfer. The total integrity, the intellect, the ultimately successful but lifelong struggle to control a volcanic temper, the textbook swing, the love of the game, the appreciation of a good cocktail and most importantly the absolute courage in dealing with a horrendous illness for so many years. On the short list of all-time American sportsmen. Somewhere in my second ten would have to be Cary Middlecoff. The dentist. Didn't turn pro until age 26, retired from the tour at age 40, yet is still in the Top Ten all time for PGA tour wins. I remember watching him as a kid and then for many years listening to him as a golf analyst. You know Vijay Singh's record is pretty amazing too. He didn't join the PGA tour until he was 30 years old, yet still racked up 30 tour wins along with three majors. Phil would be in my second ten. Billy Casper too, a wonderful if rather bland tactician forever in the shadow of the Big Three. Which reminds me Gary Player is in that second wave as well. Tom Watson. Lee Trevino. Raymond Floyd perhaps. Gene The Machine Littler. Probably getting too far into the weeds now. I just love talking about the old golfers. No mention of the great Normans? Mo nor Greg?... I think Greg gets remembered too much for the times he didn’t win, but what a swing! And he always stayed true to himself, taking the high risk shot, seldom laying up or settling... |
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 18, 2019 11:31:07 GMT -5
Rizz, I'm not sure we disagree at all. Or if so, only in the most minuscule way. In my original post that was zapped, I mentioned Young Tom Morris as maybe the most forgotten golf superstar ever. He was, at least insofar as his play was concerned, the Tiger Woods of his day. A tragic death at an extremely young age. And Old Tom may have been the first golfer eligible for canonization. Byron Nelson also belongs in the saint category. Maybe Francis Ouimet too. I think my Top Ten of all time would be identical to yours. And my Rushmore too. I might put Hagen before Nelson, but not worth quibbling about. Lord Byron's run of victories -- wasn't it 17 in one year, something like eleven in a row? -- is as untouchable as Cy Young's 511 victories. I do think some of it came in a thinned-out field at the tail end of WW II. Although nobody else was coming close to achieving that, then or ever. It does my heart good to see a mention of Harry Vardon. In some ways he did for golf in the US what Babe Ruth did for baseball in Japan. Brought it to the people. There are a few clips of him on the course which are fun to watch. Amazing that he and his partner on tour, Ted Ray, were both from the little island of Jersey Jack is my favorite golfer that I have personally watched, and pretty much for the reasons you eloquently stated. A class act all the way, from a class family. If Bobby Jones was able to pick up on his ability while I think Jack was still an amateur, that says it all. Jones is probably my favorite historical golfer. The total integrity, the intellect, the ultimately successful but lifelong struggle to control a volcanic temper, the textbook swing, the love of the game, the appreciation of a good cocktail and most importantly the absolute courage in dealing with a horrendous illness for so many years. On the short list of all-time American sportsmen. Somewhere in my second ten would have to be Cary Middlecoff. The dentist. Didn't turn pro until age 26, retired from the tour at age 40, yet is still in the Top Ten all time for PGA tour wins. I remember watching him as a kid and then for many years listening to him as a golf analyst. You know Vijay Singh's record is pretty amazing too. He didn't join the PGA tour until he was 30 years old, yet still racked up 30 tour wins along with three majors. Phil would be in my second ten. Billy Casper too, a wonderful if rather bland tactician forever in the shadow of the Big Three. Which reminds me Gary Player is in that second wave as well. Tom Watson. Lee Trevino. Raymond Floyd perhaps. Gene The Machine Littler. Probably getting too far into the weeds now. I just love talking about the old golfers. No mention of the great Normans? Mo nor Greg?... I think Greg gets remembered too much for the times he didn’t win, but what a swing! And he always stayed true to himself, taking the high risk shot, seldom laying up or settling... Well, Mo Norman never won on the PGA Tour, so difficult to add him to the pantheon. And, Greg Norman never won a major championship on US soil, so no Master’s, US Open, or PGA crowns. Both great players, but they miss the cut. If you are looking for the most underrated players who should be considered, look no further than Billy Casper. |
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Post by utahyank on Jun 18, 2019 11:34:00 GMT -5
Rizz, I'm not sure we disagree at all. Or if so, only in the most minuscule way. In my original post that was zapped, I mentioned Young Tom Morris as maybe the most forgotten golf superstar ever. He was, at least insofar as his play was concerned, the Tiger Woods of his day. A tragic death at an extremely young age. And Old Tom may have been the first golfer eligible for canonization. Byron Nelson also belongs in the saint category. Maybe Francis Ouimet too. I think my Top Ten of all time would be identical to yours. And my Rushmore too. I might put Hagen before Nelson, but not worth quibbling about. Lord Byron's run of victories -- wasn't it 17 in one year, something like eleven in a row? -- is as untouchable as Cy Young's 511 victories. I do think some of it came in a thinned-out field at the tail end of WW II. Although nobody else was coming close to achieving that, then or ever. It does my heart good to see a mention of Harry Vardon. In some ways he did for golf in the US what Babe Ruth did for baseball in Japan. Brought it to the people. There are a few clips of him on the course which are fun to watch. Amazing that he and his partner on tour, Ted Ray, were both from the little island of Jersey Jack is my favorite golfer that I have personally watched, and pretty much for the reasons you eloquently stated. A class act all the way, from a class family. If Bobby Jones was able to pick up on his ability while I think Jack was still an amateur, that says it all. Jones is probably my favorite historical golfer. The total integrity, the intellect, the ultimately successful but lifelong struggle to control a volcanic temper, the textbook swing, the love of the game, the appreciation of a good cocktail and most importantly the absolute courage in dealing with a horrendous illness for so many years. On the short list of all-time American sportsmen. Somewhere in my second ten would have to be Cary Middlecoff. The dentist. Didn't turn pro until age 26, retired from the tour at age 40, yet is still in the Top Ten all time for PGA tour wins. I remember watching him as a kid and then for many years listening to him as a golf analyst. You know Vijay Singh's record is pretty amazing too. He didn't join the PGA tour until he was 30 years old, yet still racked up 30 tour wins along with three majors. Phil would be in my second ten. Billy Casper too, a wonderful if rather bland tactician forever in the shadow of the Big Three. Which reminds me Gary Player is in that second wave as well. Tom Watson. Lee Trevino. Raymond Floyd perhaps. Gene The Machine Littler. Probably getting too far into the weeds now. I just love talking about the old golfers. No mention of the great Normans? Mo nor Greg?... I think Greg gets remembered too much for the times he didn’t win, but what a swing! And he always stayed true to himself, taking the high risk shot, seldom laying up or settling... ehhhhh…...it's probably proper that Greg got a mention...I remember him best as a golfing buddy of Bill Clinton...that, and stories of women-centric parties...not that there's anything wrong with that.... |
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Post by inger on Jun 18, 2019 12:03:50 GMT -5
Over six consecutive years as the #1 ranked golfer in the world, 331 weeks, should count for something...
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 18, 2019 12:10:10 GMT -5
Over six consecutive years as the #1 ranked golfer in the world, 331 weeks, should count for something... Always the bridesmaid does count for something. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 18, 2019 14:36:08 GMT -5
I liked Greg Norman -- bought some of his shirts and pants -- but it drove me crazy how a guy with so much talent could fail to nail it down so many times. His inability to make pressure putts on 18 did give us back to back years of Masters history -- Jack's win in 86, and Larry Mize's insane chip-in from way out in 87. I thought Mickelson was on the same path, and in some ways a similar style with crazy shots and great recoveries, but once he broke through in the Masters he moved to a different level.
Billy Casper under-rated now as in his own time. He is fifth all-time in PGA wins with 51.
Moe Norman to me falls into that eccentric category, like Walter Hagen's Aussie touring partner Joe Kirkwood. Enormously entertaining, worth the price of admission, but not built to win on the tour.
Another guy who is not only under-rated but rarely even mentioned is South African Bobby Locke. He won four British Opens. Never played on the PGA tour until he was 30 and then proceeded to win 11 events in two and a half years (13 if you count two Opens in that span between 1947-49). He played 59 PGA events and finished in the top four in 35 of them. He was then banned from the tour for breaking commitments to appear, but after the ban was lifted he rarely played again in the US.
South Africa punches above its weight in golf for such a small country. Gary Player, Bobby Locke and Ernie Els are the three greatest, but Retief Goosen, Louis Ouisthuizen, and Charl Schwartzl have all won majors as well. David Frost, Tim Clark, Rory Sabbatini, Branden Grace off the top of my head have all won multiple times on the tour.
Canada on the other hand under-performs, despite having a much larger population than South Africa. Mike Weir is the only Canadian to ever win a major. Only four Canadians have won more than once on the PGA tour -- Weir and George Knudson with eight wins each, Stephen Ames with four and Stan Leonard with three. No Canadian has won the Canadian Open since Pat Fletcher in 1954.
I usually chalked this up to an inhospitable climate for golf in Canada (unlike South Africa, which has the perfect climate in much of the country.) And while that is true, plenty of great US golfers have come from cold climates -- Jack and Arnie and Hagen right off the bat. Maybe the guys with the sweet swings all gravitate toward hockey.
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 18, 2019 15:26:28 GMT -5
I liked Greg Norman -- bought some of his shirts and pants -- but it drove me crazy how a guy with so much talent could fail to nail it down so many times. His inability to make pressure putts on 18 did give us back to back years of Masters history -- Jack's win in 86, and Larry Mize's insane chip-in from way out in 87. I thought Mickelson was on the same path, and in some ways a similar style with crazy shots and great recoveries, but once he broke through in the Masters he moved to a different level. Billy Casper under-rated now as in his own time. He is fifth all-time in PGA wins with 51. Moe Norman to me falls into that eccentric category, like Walter Hagen's Aussie touring partner Joe Kirkwood. Enormously entertaining, worth the price of admission, but not built to win on the tour. Another guy who is not only under-rated but rarely even mentioned is South African Bobby Locke. He won four British Opens. Never played on the PGA tour until he was 30 and then proceeded to win 11 events in two and a half years (13 if you count two Opens in that span between 1947-49). He played 59 PGA events and finished in the top four in 35 of them. He was then banned from the tour for breaking commitments to appear, but after the ban was lifted he rarely played again in the US. South Africa punches above its weight in golf for such a small country. Gary Player, Bobby Locke and Ernie Els are the three greatest, but Retief Goosen, Louis Ouisthuizen, and Charl Schwartzl have all won majors as well. David Frost, Tim Clark, Rory Sabbatini, Branden Grace off the top of my head have all won multiple times on the tour. Canada on the other hand under-performs, despite having a much larger population than South Africa. Mike Weir is the only Canadian to ever win a major. Only four Canadians have won more than once on the PGA tour -- Weir and George Knudson with eight wins each, Stephen Ames with four and Stan Leonard with three. No Canadian has won the Canadian Open since Pat Fletcher in 1954. I usually chalked this up to an inhospitable climate for golf in Canada (unlike South Africa, which has the perfect climate in much of the country.) And while that is true, plenty of great US golfers have come from cold climates -- Jack and Arnie and Hagen right off the bat. Maybe the guys with the sweet swings all gravitate toward hockey. Bobby Locke...According to Gary Player, the best putter ever, and he had Sam Sneed’s number: www.golf-monthly.co.uk/features/the-game/bobby-locke-from-triumph-to-tragedy-67687 |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 18, 2019 16:03:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the link to the Bobby Locke story, Rizz. I had no idea of the sad second half of his life. The nickname "Old Muffin Face" does seem spot on. He was a great one.
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 18, 2019 16:33:53 GMT -5
Thanks for the link to the Bobby Locke story, Rizz. I had no idea of the sad second half of his life. The nickname "Old Muffin Face" does seem spot on. He was a great one. Pipps - Have you read Mark Frost’s, “The Greatest Game Ever Played: Harry Vardon, Francis Ouimet, and the Birth of Modern Golf”? |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 18, 2019 17:08:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the link to the Bobby Locke story, Rizz. I had no idea of the sad second half of his life. The nickname "Old Muffin Face" does seem spot on. He was a great one. Pipps - Have you read Mark Frost’s, “The Greatest Game Ever Played: Harry Vardon, Francis Ouimet, and the Birth of Modern Golf”? I sure have. Great book with that wonderful photo of Ouimet and his caddy on the cover. One of the all-time great golf stories. Frost wrote several good golf books. Without looking for it, I believe he also wrote the book about the secret Pebble Beach match that pitted Ben Hogan and Byron Nelson against the two top amateurs, one of whom was Ken Venturi. So many great golf books. I get every bio of Bobby Jones and Walter Hagen that I can find. Something about that era of golf. Or baseball too, for that matter. |
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