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2019 GOLF
Jan 28, 2019 23:59:37 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Jan 28, 2019 23:59:37 GMT -5
Have you heard/read about Walking Stick Joe? I haven’t bought a golf magazine in twenty years...Still see one on occasion in a doctor’s waiting room or such. Walking Stick got lots of attention and commentary back then... Hmm, nope havent heard of that one. Is it this course I found on Google in Pueblo, CO? Most likely. I checked the reviews though and they aren’t all good anymore. Of course one was from a kid that played a high school tournament there in February and was knocking them for having aeration holes, so you have that. Spoiled little shitass...But I also read one that barked about brown recluse spiders and fire ants in the bunkers. They are pervasive and invasive out here. I have them in my yard. Having never played the course all I can tell you is it’s over 7100 yards from the tips. Pure links golf, barren of trees and a bit of water on about three holes. The distances can be challenging here because the winds are almost always blowing, which helps to make the hot summers (not always as hot as Vegas, mind you) tolerable...and the winter is seldom unplayable, though we get our days...I suspect that there are mild elevation changes, which for me can be harder to detect than some of the more stark and obvious changes on hilly courses... Being a muni course, it’s more likely that the course is not as well-kept as it was when new, but to give them a break, we get some summer days near 110 degrees, and lots of drying wind so keeping the course is quite a challenge. I’d have to imagine conditions can change quickly and often...In any event...it was at one time an apparent gem to Golf Magazine, Golf Digest, etc...
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Jan 29, 2019 7:55:18 GMT -5
Id love to go to the Waste Management tournament someday...it looks like a blast. I am not much of a party animal by any stretch but it looks like a hell of a "fan experience." Yeah, I think it would be the exact opposite of Augusta National, but both are worth experiencing. My wife and I did go to The Masters a few years ago, and it is one of the all-time great sports experiences. Like playing golf in a botanical garden. And so well-organized, and despite some of the reputation in the media, actually very friendly and casual in the best sense. Even the drunks are well-behaved. I still have Waste Management on my to-do list, along with Bay Hill and The Memorial. My dad and I did Bay Hill a few years ago. It was actually a really cool trip and I would recommend it to anyone here. Our main reason for the trip was to go see the Yanks at ST in Tampa which was awesome. Spent a bunch of time at the minor league facility, saw Judge and those guys back before they were stars. Reggie was there teaching hitting. El Duque was walking around in his golf attire, clearly just got off the course. We saw a couple of games at GMS Field and also played a couple of rounds of golf in the mornings including out at World Woods which was a great course (we played the Pine Barrens). We made the drive up to Orlando to attend the Sunday round at Bay Hill...looped the course with the Rory/Bryson group in the morning, broke for lunch, then followed the leaders around in the afternoon. It was the year JDay won it. I ended up playing Bay Hill about 6 months later. Was very cool to track the same path that we basically followed the best in the world take. Wasnt my best round but I did carry the water to a back right pin on 18 with my hybrid to stick is within 5 feet (missed the birdie putt ugh!).
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Post by inger on Jan 29, 2019 11:12:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I think it would be the exact opposite of Augusta National, but both are worth experiencing. My wife and I did go to The Masters a few years ago, and it is one of the all-time great sports experiences. Like playing golf in a botanical garden. And so well-organized, and despite some of the reputation in the media, actually very friendly and casual in the best sense. Even the drunks are well-behaved. I still have Waste Management on my to-do list, along with Bay Hill and The Memorial. My dad and I did Bay Hill a few years ago. It was actually a really cool trip and I would recommend it to anyone here. Our main reason for the trip was to go see the Yanks at ST in Tampa which was awesome. Spent a bunch of time at the minor league facility, saw Judge and those guys back before they were stars. Reggie was there teaching hitting. El Duque was walking around in his golf attire, clearly just got off the course. We saw a couple of games at GMS Field and also played a couple of rounds of golf in the mornings including out at World Woods which was a great course (we played the Pine Barrens). We made the drive up to Orlando to attend the Sunday round at Bay Hill...looped the course with the Rory/Bryson group in the morning, broke for lunch, then followed the leaders around in the afternoon. It was the year JDay won it. I ended up playing Bay Hill about 6 months later. Was very cool to track the same path that we basically followed the best in the world take. Wasnt my best round but I did carry the water to a back right pin on 18 with my hybrid to stick is within 5 feet (missed the birdie putt ugh!). Aren't those hybrid 3 and 4 "irons" the best thing ever???
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Jan 29, 2019 11:16:41 GMT -5
My dad and I did Bay Hill a few years ago. It was actually a really cool trip and I would recommend it to anyone here. Our main reason for the trip was to go see the Yanks at ST in Tampa which was awesome. Spent a bunch of time at the minor league facility, saw Judge and those guys back before they were stars. Reggie was there teaching hitting. El Duque was walking around in his golf attire, clearly just got off the course. We saw a couple of games at GMS Field and also played a couple of rounds of golf in the mornings including out at World Woods which was a great course (we played the Pine Barrens). We made the drive up to Orlando to attend the Sunday round at Bay Hill...looped the course with the Rory/Bryson group in the morning, broke for lunch, then followed the leaders around in the afternoon. It was the year JDay won it. I ended up playing Bay Hill about 6 months later. Was very cool to track the same path that we basically followed the best in the world take. Wasnt my best round but I did carry the water to a back right pin on 18 with my hybrid to stick is within 5 feet (missed the birdie putt ugh!). Aren't those hybrid 3 and 4 "irons" the best thing ever??? I love them. I used to carry a 3, 4, and 5 hybrids. When I got more comfortable with my swing I dropped the 5 for a 5 iron (which I still dont love hitting) and actually added a 2 hybrid to my bag which I mainly use off the tee on shorter par 4s.
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Post by inger on Jan 29, 2019 11:32:34 GMT -5
I had so many transitions. I had brief period of time where I was carrying a one-iron for some of my tee shots. Let's just say I was proud of a select few of those. Used to carry a 5 wood and also for only a brief period a seven wood (I didn't like it, for me it was harder to hit than my five wood). In MD my hybrid three would get me 225, my hybrid 4 was good for 215 and the five iron (actually one of my favorite feel good clubs) was my choice at 196-205 (depending on lie, wind, elevation) most of the time...I carried a mid wedge, which of course was at the expense of something like your 2-iron, but it was great for those 105-110 yards shots where the pitching wedge was a bit scary long. (reminds me, I also tried a 60 degree wedge for a while, but I would skull it once in a while, yuck)...
My best feel-good clubs are the 5-7 irons...
My ball mark used to get me some chuckles until I explained it. Three dots over four dots. "What are you doing, coloring the whole damned ball"? But when I explained the three dots were for Ruth, the four dots for Gehrig and the total of seven was for Mantle, the comments turned to admiration, even for Yankee haters...My golf main golf buddy spent hours after that trying to come up with a clever ball mark, and never could find one that was meaningful for him...Poor Charlie. He had a great love for golf. When I have time, I should tell you his tale...Because it's all a tale learned on the golf course (well, and at work. He also worked for me for a several years)...Man, the golf stories he'd tell...He was loaded with them...Funny, touching, gross, weird...stories of the game...
One of my favorite lines about golf came from The Legend of Bagger Vance..."Golf is a game that can't be won, only played"...
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Post by domeplease on Feb 1, 2019 11:20:13 GMT -5
I love the Waste Mgt. Tournament = THE YOUNG FANS -- OF BOTH SEXES Screaming/Yelling = really getting involved on certain holes.
Golf is suffering in America = Decrease in Fans; Less Citizens Playing the Game; General Interest in Game = FOR so many reasons...
The Youth in America both the Millennials & Gen. Z rank Golf as one of the lowest interest for them to watch and/or play.
The PGA must come up with a Marketing Plan to attract this Huge Population of potential fans/players...if not, well, well, well...__________________(fill-in-the-blank)
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Post by domeplease on Feb 4, 2019 14:13:20 GMT -5
I love the Waste Mgt. Tournament = THE YOUNG FANS -- OF BOTH SEXES Screaming/Yelling = really getting involved on certain holes.
Golf is suffering in America = Decrease in Fans; Less Citizens Playing the Game; General Interest in Game = FOR so many reasons...
The Youth in America both the Millennials & Gen. Z rank Golf as one of the lowest interest for them to watch and/or play.
The PGA must come up with a Marketing Plan to attract this Huge Population of potential fans/players...if not, well, well, well...__________________(fill-in-the-blank)
Tequila & I BOTH got a kick-out of watching the Waste Management Tournament = WE LOVED THE FANS' INVOLVEMENT!!!
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Feb 4, 2019 15:08:20 GMT -5
If Fowler would have lost after what happened to him on the 11th hole that would have been devastating. Really glad he pulled it out.
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Post by pippsheadache on Feb 4, 2019 20:29:23 GMT -5
If Fowler would have lost after what happened to him on the 11th hole that would have been devastating. Really glad he pulled it out. Me too. Nothing against Branden Grace, but that would have been terribly anti-climactic had he won that one. Maybe this breaks Rickey's mental logjam and he starts piling up some victories. I was amazed that in the over 80-year history of this tournament, he was the first person to shoot over par on Sunday and still win. Some nice tributes to Johnny Miller on Saturday. They almost had me warming up to the guy. Stenson as always had some funny comments. He may be the funniest guy on the tour. I like the crowd deal at the Phoenix Open, but, like Las Vegas, one is enough for this planet. Now on to Pebble Beach! Definitely one of the most photogenic courses. I miss Bing Crosby handing out the check. And he's been dead for ever 40 years, that tells you I've been above ground far too long!!
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2019 GOLF
Feb 4, 2019 21:29:55 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2019 21:29:55 GMT -5
I tuned in on Sunday, so I guess you guys have gotten to me. As soon as that dropped ball rolled back into the water, Fowler became the lovable underdog...
I looked at the PGA tour site today, and some guy wrote comments about the horrible American “morans” that booed Grace, which naturally I got quite a kick out of...
But Grace had to do his part to allow Fowler the opportunity to come back, and that he did...
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Post by domeplease on Feb 14, 2019 11:09:51 GMT -5
--02-13-19: www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/matt-kuchar-somehow-defended-his-embarrassingly-low-payment-to-caddie-after-dollar12m-win/ar-BBTyUiK?li=BBnb7Kx Matt Kuchar is known as being one of the nicest guys on the PGA Tour. He's always quick with a smile when fans yell, "Koooooooooooooch" seemingly every weekend on the PGA Tour and he never seems to be even close to being rattled.
But apparently he's also one of the cheapest guys on Tour because after a win last November at Mayakoba Classic, a win in which he earned over $1.2 million for, he paid his caddie just $5,000.
Which is ridiculous.
Also, his caddie, David Giral Ortiz, was a stand-in that week for Kuchar's regular caddie. So you think Kuchar might want to give him even more for stepping in and helping pick up his first win in over four years.
But nope, he didn't. Instead he gave him $5,000 and walked away feeling like he had done the right thing, which he didn't do at all.
Kuchar had a chance to correct things when asked about it Wednesday before this week's tournament in LA but instead he doubled down on it with this:
If that's not the most tone-deaf answer that one could have come up with then I don't know what it is.
Kuchar told Golf.com on Wednesday:
Kuchar said he told Ortiz he would pay him $1,000 if he missed the cut, $2,000 if he made the cut, $3,000 if he had a top-20 and $4,000 if he had a top-10. "The extra $1,000 was, 'Thank you - it was a great week.' Those were the terms. He was in agreement with those terms. That's where I struggle. I don't know what happened. Someone must have said, `You need much more.'"
Come on, man, be a human and realize you just won over a million bucks and give the caddie a little more. It's not that hard to figure out.
Once I was working in fine dining restaurant that was really expensive and nice, as fine dining restaurants tend to be. One night a fellow server got tipped like $1 on a $150 check. In a frustrated moment, he asked the customer if the service was ok. The guy said yes, it was great. He asked if the food was ok. The customer said yes, it was great. Then my friend asked why he only tipped $1 and the customer said: "Well, this is a nice place, the food is expensive, I figure you get paid a lot."
I'm stunned that guy wasn't Matt Kuchar.
Because by the looks of this he could be the type of guy that that's always trying to figure out what 8 percent of something is after having a nice meal out on the town.
Here are some other things to take into account: Kuchar has won over $46 million on Tour and is 10th on the all-time money list.
According to a report, Kuchar later offered to pay the caddie another $15K, which is still terrible, but Ortiz turned it down, telling Kuchar he could keep his money.
Good for Ortiz on that one, but this should have never happened. Kuchar should have done the right thing and tossed him a bunch of money after his because he sure has it and Ortiz sure deserved it.
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2019 GOLF
Feb 14, 2019 11:47:25 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Feb 14, 2019 11:47:25 GMT -5
I’m wondering if Kuchar May have still given his regular caddie a cut? It seems there may be more to the story than what’s been revealed.
We should also consider that Kuchar hadn’t won in a long time and due to life style he may be in need of money right now.
In any event, while a deal is a deal, the mindset to offer a rather skimpy deal was in place in Kuchar’s mind, and the mindset to accept such a deal was in place for Ortiz to agree to it.
$5000 for about 16-18 hours work? If it was 18 hours, Ortiz was paid $277.78 per hour. There was no way for Kuchar to know how much assistance the guy could offer him on the course, if he’d get along with him for four days, or to have clue in advance that he’d pull off a win.
It’s only a story because Ortiz has made an issue of it. Case closed. He should have asked for the standard caddie’s cut. When the deal was struck, Kuchar could have failed to make the cut and gone home on Friday night. So, he took a lower risk lower price agreement. Now he knows better. The fame he’s gained may net him a full-time gig, though likely not with Kuchar. He would have been smart to accept the extra $15,000. It was a bonus that would have pushed his hourly rate up to $1111.12. Not bad for a non-professional bag humper...
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Post by domeplease on Feb 14, 2019 12:17:30 GMT -5
I’m wondering if Kuchar May have still given his regular caddie a cut? It seems there may be more to the story than what’s been revealed. We should also consider that Kuchar hadn’t won in a long time and due to life style he may be in need of money right now. In any event, while a deal is a deal, the mindset to offer a rather skimpy deal was in place in Kuchar’s mind, and the mindset to accept such a deal was in place for Ortiz to agree to it. $5000 for about 16-18 hours work? If it was 18 hours, Ortiz was paid $277.78 per hour. There was no way for Kuchar to know how much assistance the guy could offer him on the course, if he’d get along with him for four days, or to have clue in advance that he’d pull off a win. It’s only a story because Ortiz has made an issue of it. Case closed. He should have asked for the standard caddie’s cut. When the deal was struck, Kuchar could have failed to make the cut and gone home on Friday night. So, he took a lower risk lower price agreement. Now he knows better. The game he’s gained may net him a full-time gig, though likely not with Kuchar. He would have been smart to accept the extra $15,000. It was a bonus that would have pushed his hourly rate up to $1111.12. Not bad for a non-professional bag humper... WOW!!! Tequila, our Spiritual Advisor has gone SOUTH...
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2019 GOLF
Feb 14, 2019 12:43:10 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Feb 14, 2019 12:43:10 GMT -5
Nah. I just think the guy’s a golf rat that was having the thrill of his life until Kuchar won...Besides, that name. David Ortiz. Yuck...
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Post by inger on Feb 14, 2019 12:54:09 GMT -5
David Ortiz PED song (apologies to Harry Nilsson)
Brudder bought a coconut He bought it for a dime His sister had anudder one She paid it for the lime
She put the lime in de coconut I drank ‘em bot up I drank de lime in the coconut I grow de beeg arms
I drank de lime in de coconut I grow de beeg head I call de doctor Woke him up I say doctor Ain't there nothing I can take I say doctor To shrink back Dis beeg head I say doctor (doctor) Ain't there nothing I can take To pass dis drug test? He say you put the lime In the coconut And drink 'em both up? You put the lime In the coconut And drink 'em both togedder? Ah-ah-ah, Ah-ah-AH-ah-ah
and so on and so forth. Don't forget to do some Woo-oo-hoos in there somewhere, too...
Look David I get tired of You taking this weird sh*t And calling me at night For what to do with it
Call me in the morning I'll tell you what to do Call me in the morning I'll help you pass de test...
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