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Post by kaybli on Feb 23, 2019 6:00:27 GMT -5
This means that the Yankees will only carry one of Bird or Voit.
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Post by inger on Feb 23, 2019 9:36:05 GMT -5
This means that the Yankees will only carry one of Bird or Voit.
Also means that we may be dealing off whomever loses out. I think it's going to be Bye-Bye Birdie time in NY. Watch him go somewhere else and light it up...
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 23, 2019 10:16:07 GMT -5
This means that the Yankees will only carry one of Bird or Voit.
Also means that we may be dealing off whomever loses out. I think it's going to be Bye-Bye Birdie time in NY. Watch him go somewhere else and light it up... I think Bird has options, so he could go back to Scranton and play everyday.
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 23, 2019 10:41:25 GMT -5
Also means that we may be dealing off whomever loses out. I think it's going to be Bye-Bye Birdie time in NY. Watch him go somewhere else and light it up... I think Bird has options, so he could go back to Scranton and play everyday. He and Voit both have options. I think if he’s healthy and hitting well they send him to SWB hope he crushes the ball and eventually trade him. There’s no urgency to move him. Given how one dimensional he is he is a tough fit for a bench role.
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 23, 2019 10:47:57 GMT -5
I think Bird has options, so he could go back to Scranton and play everyday. He and Voit both have options. I think if he’s healthy and hitting well they send him to SWB hope he crushes the ball and eventually trade him. There’s no urgency to move him. Given how one dimensional he is he is a tough fit for a bench role. Thanks, I didn't know Voit had options too. It would be wise for the Yanks to keep both for now, hopefully at least one of them is the real deal in 2019.
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Post by inger on Feb 23, 2019 12:36:57 GMT -5
He and Voit both have options. I think if he’s healthy and hitting well they send him to SWB hope he crushes the ball and eventually trade him. There’s no urgency to move him. Given how one dimensional he is he is a tough fit for a bench role. Thanks, I didn't know Voit had options too. It would be wise for the Yanks to keep both for now, hopefully at least one of them is the real deal in 2019. Yeah. If options exist for both, we’re in a strong position to let this play out for at least a half-season... LaMahieu was promised an “everyday role” in order to get him to sign, so I would expect that if he doesn’t get to play at least 40-50 games at first, that’ll be a hard promise to keep. I’m interested to see if LaMahieu or Torres plays more SS. While Tulo rests...and how often Andujar DHs...
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Post by noetsi on Feb 25, 2019 20:58:59 GMT -5
I wonder if Stanton is going to get to play OF which he has made it clear he wants to do.
Will Ellsbury play again as a Yankee, seems unlikely.
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 25, 2019 21:10:49 GMT -5
I wonder if Stanton is going to get to play OF which he has made it clear he wants to do. Will Ellsbury play again as a Yankee, seems unlikely. Stanton will see time in the OF, especially against lefties when Gardner is on the bench. Also, when Hicks needs a day off, Gardner will be in CF with Stanton in LF. I'm not even thinking about Ellsbury and the Yankees probably aren't either.
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Post by inger on Feb 25, 2019 21:38:15 GMT -5
I wonder if Stanton is going to get to play OF which he has made it clear he wants to do. Will Ellsbury play again as a Yankee, seems unlikely. Stanton will see time in the OF, especially against lefties when Gardner is on the bench. Also, when Hicks needs a day off, Gardner will be in CF with Stanton in LF. I'm not even thinking about Ellsbury and the Yankees probably aren't either. Jacoby, I know you say you’re healthy, but you just don’t look healthy to me. I’m going to send you for an evaluation. I’m sure you’ll break something on the way. If not, we’ll find something. We could put you in a room with biting tsetse flies. You can take a nice, long nap...
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Post by noetsi on Feb 26, 2019 12:58:13 GMT -5
On the bright side he means we don't waste as much money anymore on free agents. Sometimes learning is painful.
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 26, 2019 15:06:02 GMT -5
I wonder if Stanton is going to get to play OF which he has made it clear he wants to do. Will Ellsbury play again as a Yankee, seems unlikely. Stanton will see time in the OF, especially against lefties when Gardner is on the bench. Also, when Hicks needs a day off, Gardner will be in CF with Stanton in LF. I'm not even thinking about Ellsbury and the Yankees probably aren't either. I think if he ever was able to come off the DL, there’s a good chance they’d DFA him. It is almost two years since he’s played. Realistically, would they choose today to give him a roster spot? Seems unlikely.
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 26, 2019 15:08:00 GMT -5
On the bright side he means we don't waste as much money anymore on free agents. Sometimes learning is painful. Based on everything Cashman has said I don’t think this has altered their approach to free agents at all. On the other hand, they have significantly invested in analytics between the time they signed him and today. So they might well make different decisions (they would not for example have traded for Luke Voit back then) but I think that has a lot more to do with the maturity of Cashman’s analytics team and the culture of the front office than being burned by Ellsbury not turning out the way they had hoped.
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Post by Renfield on Feb 26, 2019 15:30:06 GMT -5
Stanton will see time in the OF, especially against lefties when Gardner is on the bench. Also, when Hicks needs a day off, Gardner will be in CF with Stanton in LF. I'm not even thinking about Ellsbury and the Yankees probably aren't either. I think if he ever was able to come off the DL, there’s a good chance they’d DFA him. It is almost two years since he’s played. Realistically, would they choose today to give him a roster spot? Seems unlikely. Agree. Now that he's down to 2 years on his contract, I think they'll eat the rest of the contract if they have to. I can't see them tying up a roster spot when they already have plenty of outfielders. They probably hope he stays on the DL for as long as possible to collect whatever insurance money they can to cover some of that salary.
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Post by inger on Feb 26, 2019 15:49:24 GMT -5
Break Jake to brake Jake...
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Post by noetsi on Feb 26, 2019 17:00:12 GMT -5
On the bright side he means we don't waste as much money anymore on free agents. Sometimes learning is painful. Based on everything Cashman has said I don’t think this has altered their approach to free agents at all. On the other hand, they have significantly invested in analytics between the time they signed him and today. So they might well make different decisions (they would not for example have traded for Luke Voit back then) but I think that has a lot more to do with the maturity of Cashman’s analytics team and the culture of the front office than being burned by Ellsbury not turning out the way they had hoped. Possibly, but I suspect the analytics team tells them that taking a player from another team with very high salary and long contracts rarely works. Which is why they won't sign those type of players (and have not for a while for the most part).
I think the majors has decided this generally which is why so few teams bid on these type of contracts. There are exceptions, but they are rare.
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