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Post by michcusejoe5 on Feb 25, 2019 11:38:18 GMT -5
Apparently Betances is next on the docket. I have long been a proponent of extending Betances...I wavered a little bit but I would be good with it on anything 4 years or less. Betances turns 31 next month, so I wonder how long the Yanks would want to extend him? He has been relatively healthy during his career. I wouldnt want to go past 35 but would hope for it to be even shorter than that. Once he loses his mechanics thats all she wrote. So far hes been able to work through the kinks up to this point but hes so big and I would imagine it will only get more difficult with age. Though in the near term I think he is still incredibly valuable. |
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 25, 2019 12:15:11 GMT -5
That is a great deal for the Yankees. Given what Machado just got that’s a bargain.
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Post by NewYawka on Feb 25, 2019 15:21:41 GMT -5
On the open market, Hicks probably gets 5 years, not 7.
But for the same $70M.
So it's like the Yanks get the last 2 years free!
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Feb 25, 2019 15:40:48 GMT -5
On the open market, Hicks probably gets 5 years, not 7. But for the same $70M. So it's like the Yanks get the last 2 years free! You think he would get that small of a contract (not that it would be "small" but you know what I mean)? Maybe you are right...AJ Pollock got 5 years $60mm this offseason but he hasnt been great the last couple of years (Hicks been worth 8.6 WAR vs. Pollock 5.5 WAR over a similar number of PAs). Though on the other side of that Lorenzo Cain only got 5 years $80mm last year after a few really strong years (though Cain was 2 years older than Hicks would have been when he became at FA after 2019). I guess I can see Hicks landing right in the middle of those two but when you consider age I wonder if he would have had a better shot. |
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Post by noetsi on Feb 25, 2019 18:00:51 GMT -5
I think the length of the contract, concerns if he can play given injuries, and a desire to be on a contender was the key for hicks. So we are now out, as I think we always were, out of the big ticket free agent deals.
We have a bunch of young players who we are going to have large contracts for or let go in the years to come. People like Judge. That will drive our free agent decision making.
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 25, 2019 19:31:08 GMT -5
This isn't the reason they're out on Machado and Harper. Machado and Harper are the reasons they're out on Machado and Harper. Much as Hicks is the reason they were in on Hicks.
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Post by inger on Feb 25, 2019 20:05:16 GMT -5
I think there was a sweet spot in which to make a deal now. If Hicks improvement is permanent, he’s lost some of what he could have gotten on the open market. If he regresses, he’s gained something by locking himself down now.
He’s known what it’s like to be in a small market town, and he knows what it’s like to be with the Yankees. He made a smart choice...and so did the team...
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Post by noetsi on Feb 25, 2019 20:21:59 GMT -5
This isn't the reason they're out on Machado and Harper. Machado and Harper are the reasons they're out on Machado and Harper. Much as Hicks is the reason they were in on Hicks. Personally I think Cashman is not enthusiastic on spending large amounts of money on free agents from other teams, especially when they involve long term contracts. When he gets his way, rather than being overruled by the Steinbrenner family, such purchases are rarely going to occur regardless of who is up on the block.
That is my opinion.
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 25, 2019 21:00:31 GMT -5
This isn't the reason they're out on Machado and Harper. Machado and Harper are the reasons they're out on Machado and Harper. Much as Hicks is the reason they were in on Hicks. Personally I think Cashman is not enthusiastic on spending large amounts of money on free agents from other teams, especially when they involve long term contracts. When he gets his way, rather than being overruled by the Steinbrenner family, such purchases are rarely going to occur regardless of who is up on the block.
That is my opinion.
That's probably true, however, there's always exceptions. If Mike Trout was a free agent this past season, I'd hope that they Yanks would be all in. |
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Post by noetsi on Feb 25, 2019 21:06:38 GMT -5
While I am not supportive of getting free agents for long term contracts, because I don't think it has helped in most cases, my real point is that I don't think Cashman believes in this.
Sadly he rarely consults me 
Regardless we don't have a lot of positions to put people in. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 8:50:38 GMT -5
I would think that if a FA is 26 years old, 7-8 years isn’t unreasonable if his name is Machado or Harper. Judge is slightly older than both of these guys and many of you are saying to give him 10 years, albeit for a lot less money and for good reason as his track record isn’t as solid yet, especially compared to Manny. I guess Judge would be 30 before he could file for free agency, but if he thinks his trajectory will continue on its present course, wouldn’t he be a bit foolish to sign for that amount now? Are you guys sure you’re not related to Hal?
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Post by NewYawka on Feb 27, 2019 12:55:27 GMT -5
I would think that if a FA is 26 years old, 7-8 years isn’t unreasonable if his name is Machado or Harper. Judge is slightly older than both of these guys and many of you are saying to give him 10 years, albeit for a lot less money and for good reason as his track record isn’t as solid yet, especially compared to Manny. I guess Judge would be 30 before he could file for free agency, but if he thinks his trajectory will continue on its present course, wouldn’t he be a bit foolish to sign for that amount now? Are you guys sure you’re not related to Hal? If he signs now, it is for a significant salary increase this year and through his initial arbitration years. He would be passing up the huge bucks in the last few years of the contract for the big bucks earlier. |
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Post by noetsi on Feb 27, 2019 19:28:30 GMT -5
I look at free agency different when they come from other teams than players already on the Yankees. I think there are plenty of examples historically of players who could not play on the Yankees who could on another team (Burnet and Pavano are personal favorite here, but there are many examples).
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Post by kaybli on Nov 12, 2021 2:13:51 GMT -5
Whoops.
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 12, 2021 5:18:24 GMT -5
 This thread didn’t age well.
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This thread didn’t age well.