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Post by inger on Jul 14, 2019 14:13:48 GMT -5
If you go to ESPN team batting stats and click on expanded stats you’ll see that the Yankees are 21st in MLB in sacrifice hits (bunts), But do have 5 TIMES MORE than the two teams that are actually worse. The Yanks are 12th in MLB in sacrifice flies. That’s a start, Russ. If you consider that the influx of strikeouts has almost rendered the hit and run obsolete, I would think that you need only watch a few other teams play (just what our opponents do against us would be enough) to see that the art of the hit and run as well as hitting behind the runner are dying strategies. As to why, and as to whether or not that should be the case, trams keep massive amounts of information about success and failure rates that I doubt that you (or any of us) keep. They have statistical backup for their choices... I think against good pitchers, the type you face in play offs, you need to manufacture runs. And its important to have in your toolbox bunting, stealing, hit and runs, placing the ball to the right side of the diamond to advance the runner and so on. I understand that is very much the minority view these days. It used to be the norm in baseball (that teams saw this capacity as useful). Used to being the key phrase here, Russ. When we were boys and watched baseball in the 60’s and 70’s offense was quite suppressed as opposed to the game we watch today. Runs were precious and few. Middle infielders especially were more valued for their gloves than their bats, so when they came to the plate toting their tiny BA/OBP/SLG skills the manager would often figure that they weren’t likely to get a hit, or hit a HR. In a modern environment with middle infielders that are hitting 20-30-even-more HR the odds have changed. We too must take the evolutionary step to appreciate those odds. As you said earlier, it IS simple mathematics, Russ. But you have to plug in the right numbers. Sentiment for the old ways is fine, but they are now extinct... |
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Post by utahyank on Jul 14, 2019 14:13:52 GMT -5
Why was Ottavino lifted there? Gamecast doesn't tell me. he's in the dugout, apparently OK....announcer said it was the matchup with a LH batter, and Kanhle matches up better....Boonie-stuff... |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 14, 2019 14:15:37 GMT -5
More importantly, the Yankees are 3rd in the majors in runs scored and 3rd in batting avg. with RISP and 2 outs. I think that's far more important than how many times you've wasted outs with bunts. If if you move runners over and you had a 70 percent chance of getting an out otherwise without moving them over (and possibly hitting into a dp) you have not wasted an out. I won't argue the point any more. I understand old style fundamentals are not seen as useful. I simply disagree. Bunting reduces expected runs like I've told you a million times. Educate yourself:
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Post by Renfield on Jul 14, 2019 14:16:27 GMT -5
Why was Ottavino lifted there? Gamecast doesn't tell me. Boone is overthinking the situation, Ottavino is not hurt but he does look pissed in the dugout. Figures. |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 14, 2019 14:17:28 GMT -5
probably should not have wasted the pitches and just deliberately walked him
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 14, 2019 14:18:04 GMT -5
If if you move runners over and you had a 70 percent chance of getting an out otherwise without moving them over (and possibly hitting into a dp) you have not wasted an out. I won't argue the point any more. I understand old style fundamentals are not seen as useful. I simply disagree. Bunting reduces expected runs like I've told you a million times. Educate yourself:
Also, why play for one run early in the game when you could have a bigger inning? I get it, bunting can make sense late in a game, but the 5th inning is too soon. |
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Post by utahyank on Jul 14, 2019 14:18:43 GMT -5
Ottavino looks a little chapped in the dugout....
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 14, 2019 14:19:39 GMT -5
Ottavino looks a little chapped in the dugout.... Yeah, he's not a happy camper right now. |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 14, 2019 14:20:37 GMT -5
If if you move runners over and you had a 70 percent chance of getting an out otherwise without moving them over (and possibly hitting into a dp) you have not wasted an out. I won't argue the point any more. I understand old style fundamentals are not seen as useful. I simply disagree. Bunting reduces expected runs like I've told you a million times. Educate yourself:
Probabilities are conditional. In some situations, facing a good pitcher when one run makes the difference between losing and winning and you have poor hitters up bunting makes sense. That does not mean it makes sense in most cases which is what overall odds get at. Its the difference between conditional and independent probabilities. Thank you for the site. |
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Post by desousa on Jul 14, 2019 14:22:19 GMT -5
Why was Ottavino lifted there? Gamecast doesn't tell me. Boone is overthinking the situation, Ottavino is not hurt but he does look pissed in the dugout. The Yankees booth thought Boone figured Kahnle's changeup would be better against lefties than Ottavino's slider. Who knows? |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 14, 2019 14:22:40 GMT -5
Tampa is three outs away from throwing a perfect game against Baltimore.
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Post by utahyank on Jul 14, 2019 14:22:56 GMT -5
Bunting reduces expected runs like I've told you a million times. Educate yourself:
Probabilities are conditional. In some situations, facing a good pitcher when one run makes the difference between losing and winning and you have poor hitters up bunting makes sense. That does not mean it makes sense in most cases which is what overall odds get at. Its the difference between conditional and independent probabilities. Thank you for the site. ...when it stops it will end...……. |
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Post by Renfield on Jul 14, 2019 14:23:31 GMT -5
Tampa is three outs away from throwing a perfect game against Baltimore. Another blow to Baltimore's quest for 40 wins. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 14, 2019 14:23:58 GMT -5
Boone is overthinking the situation, Ottavino is not hurt but he does look pissed in the dugout. The Yankees booth thought Boone figured Kahnle's changeup would be better against lefties than Ottavino's slider. Who knows? He could have just brought Kahnle in to start the inning instead of wasting Ottavino, but the Yanks did keep the lead. |
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Post by desousa on Jul 14, 2019 14:24:01 GMT -5
Who's going to get the Yankees off their no homerun snide? Tauchman?
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