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Post by noetsi on Jul 14, 2019 14:24:14 GMT -5
Tampa is three outs away from throwing a perfect game against Baltimore. Another blow to Baltimore's quest for 40 wins. lol |
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Post by inger on Jul 14, 2019 14:24:58 GMT -5
More importantly, the Yankees are 3rd in the majors in runs scored and 3rd in batting avg. with RISP and 2 outs. I think that's far more important than how many times you've wasted outs with bunts. If if you move runners over and you had a 70 percent chance of getting an out otherwise without moving them over (and possibly hitting into a dp) you have not wasted an out. I won't argue the point any more. I understand old style fundamentals are not seen as useful. I simply disagree. I think you should do exactly what you want, Russ. You should keep your point of view, one to which you are entitled. This has been a circular argument with you for at least a dozen years. You never back it up with stats, and although many of us present compelling cases to you, you either don’t read them or choose to ignore them. The problem is that you continue to raise the point. For some reason we (several of us) try to reason with you and present you with ever more information. It’s become like giving food to a starving man who refuses to eat it and watching it go to waste. If only you could back this up with numbers, which for a man like you that works with numbers would seem to be so easy and logical. I suppose I’m simply saying that I’m giving up. If you feel like you’re right, then you’re right. We’re all wrong, at least I am... |
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Post by desousa on Jul 14, 2019 14:26:03 GMT -5
Called it!!!!!!
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Post by inger on Jul 14, 2019 14:26:05 GMT -5
Ottavino looks a little chapped in the dugout.... Yeah, he's not a happy camper right now. Although, I’ve noticed that he always looks a little chapped... |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 14, 2019 14:26:36 GMT -5
Who's going to get the Yankees off their no homerun snide? Tauchman?  That's why you don't have Tauchman bunt!!! |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 14, 2019 14:26:43 GMT -5
Who's going to get the Yankees off their no homerun snide? Tauchman?  4-2 |
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Post by utahyank on Jul 14, 2019 14:27:15 GMT -5
Who's going to get the Yankees off their no homerun snide? Tauchman? how prescient!....I'm impressed.... |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 14, 2019 14:28:56 GMT -5
If if you move runners over and you had a 70 percent chance of getting an out otherwise without moving them over (and possibly hitting into a dp) you have not wasted an out. I won't argue the point any more. I understand old style fundamentals are not seen as useful. I simply disagree. I think you should do exactly what you want, Russ. You should keep your point of view, one to which you are entitled. This has been a circular argument with you for at least a dozen years. You never back it up with stats, and although many of us present compelling cases to you, you either don’t read them or choose to ignore them. The problem is that you continue to raise the point. For some reason we (several of us) try to reason with you and present you with ever more information. It’s become like giving food to a starving man who refuses to eat it and watching it go to waste. If only you could back this up with numbers, which for a man like you that works with numbers would seem to be so easy and logical. I suppose I’m simply saying that I’m giving up. If you feel like you’re right, then you’re right. We’re all wrong, at least I am... I read the statistics. I did not see anything in it which said that bad hitters against good pitchers in close games should not bunt. Nor that it kept you out of dp's - in fact the author who said that bunts waste outs noted that bunting does keep you out of inning killing dp's. I agree that bunting for the yankees (who do not bunt well) is usually a mistake. There are situations especially in play offs where it is useful. |
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Post by inger on Jul 14, 2019 14:29:02 GMT -5
Perfect! I root for Tauchman and believe there’s more to him than meets the eye... welcome to the Mike Tauchman Fan Club!!! |
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Post by Renfield on Jul 14, 2019 14:29:46 GMT -5
Not sure I'm going to credit that call. Sounded like you were making a sarcastic comment about Tauchman's unlikelihood of hitting a homer. |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 14, 2019 14:31:34 GMT -5
Not sure I'm going to credit that call. Sounded like you were making a sarcastic comment about Tauchman's unlikelihood of hitting a homer. My compliment was sincere..... |
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Post by utahyank on Jul 14, 2019 14:32:23 GMT -5
Perfect! I root for Tauchman and believe there’s more to him than meets the eye... welcome to the Mike Tauchman Fan Club!!! really!!?...you're casting aside Gardner for the new, pretty, face?.....you're a front-runner, inger….  |
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Post by noetsi on Jul 14, 2019 14:34:00 GMT -5
Perfect! I root for Tauchman and believe there’s more to him than meets the eye... welcome to the Mike Tauchman Fan Club!!! really!!?...you're casting aside Gardner for the new, pretty, face?.....you're a front-runner, inger…. frazier will be even more upset....what is he going to say 20 years from now when his career is compared to Tauchman. Anyone remember Clay Bellinger, who was very proud of his WS rings, even though he rarely played.  |
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Post by inger on Jul 14, 2019 14:35:13 GMT -5
I think you should do exactly what you want, Russ. You should keep your point of view, one to which you are entitled. This has been a circular argument with you for at least a dozen years. You never back it up with stats, and although many of us present compelling cases to you, you either don’t read them or choose to ignore them. The problem is that you continue to raise the point. For some reason we (several of us) try to reason with you and present you with ever more information. It’s become like giving food to a starving man who refuses to eat it and watching it go to waste. If only you could back this up with numbers, which for a man like you that works with numbers would seem to be so easy and logical. I suppose I’m simply saying that I’m giving up. If you feel like you’re right, then you’re right. We’re all wrong, at least I am... I read the statistics. I did not see anything in it which said that bad hitters against good pitchers in close games should not bunt. Nor that it kept you out of dp's - in fact the author who said that bunts waste outs noted that bunting does keep you out of inning killing dp's. No one on this site that I’m aware of has ever said that you should never, ever under any circumstances, bunt. It’s simply a limited use strategy that should be used sparingly and tends to work best when not expected by the defense... In some games the situation exists where a bunt may make sense, but in many it does not. Bunting will not increase the enjoyment of nor assist in a comeback in blow-out games, cure diseases or solve the issue of world hunger, global warming, end famine or prevent Yellowstone from blowing up. Are we even one little iota closer to agreement on the subject?... |
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Post by rizzuto on Jul 14, 2019 14:35:29 GMT -5
Bunting reduces expected runs like I've told you a million times. Educate yourself:
Probabilities are conditional. In some situations, facing a good pitcher when one run makes the difference between losing and winning and you have poor hitters up bunting makes sense. That does not mean it makes sense in most cases which is what overall odds get at. Its the difference between conditional and independent probabilities. Thank you for the site. Okay, Russ. Consider this: According to teamrankings.com, the Yankees leave 2.99 runners in scoring position per game, which is third best (fewest) in MLB and first in the American League. How does this affect your belief that the Yankees are one of the worst teams at advancing baserunners? |
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