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Post by kaybli on Aug 15, 2019 2:58:45 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 15, 2019 8:28:45 GMT -5
That's some high quality umpiring, I'm sure Joe Torre doesn't think there's a problem.
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Post by inger on Aug 15, 2019 10:13:14 GMT -5
That's some high quality umpiring, I'm sure Joe Torre doesn't think there's a problem. It would be interesting to see what is happening to other tall and even short players in baseball. Have the umps simply quit tailoring the strike zone to the player? One possibility is that they’re all working together and using a standardized strike zone, one size fits all. That’s not how the rule reads of course, but it wouldn’t be the first or last time that a new interpretation of the rules became the standard... |
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Post by noetsi on Aug 15, 2019 15:49:16 GMT -5
On one game the announcers were saying where the umpires are standing now its hard to see low strikes. I imagine its worse for really tall players.
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 15, 2019 16:05:08 GMT -5
On one game the announcers were saying where the umpires are standing now its hard to see low strikes. I imagine its worse for really tall players. Then they should stand so they get an accurate reading of the strike zone for each player. It's up to them to get it right, and if that's beyond their capacity say so and use an electronic method. There is just no excuse for this level of incompetence. None. |
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Post by noetsi on Aug 15, 2019 16:18:18 GMT -5
I don't think its actually the umpires who made the decision where to stand. If it was each umpire would stand where they thought best.
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Post by utahyank on Aug 15, 2019 16:59:08 GMT -5
On one game the announcers were saying where the umpires are standing now its hard to see low strikes. I imagine its worse for really tall players. Then they should stand so they get an accurate reading of the strike zone for each player. It's up to them to get it right, and if that's beyond their capacity say so and use an electronic method. There is just no excuse for this level of incompetence. None. I share your disgust with the accuracy of their calls...I take a different view of why such inaccurate calls happen....I suggest it is beyond the human eye and human ability to call the zone with an acceptable accuracy....they probably are the most competent they can possibly be, and may want to get it more correct than anyone, but it is simply not possible...... It was one thing when the game started being played, and there was no alternative....shame on baseball for dragging their feet on this issue more than 50 years after the demonstration of technology that put a man on the moon and brought them back.....the good part is that more and more people are talking about this, and while the feckless MLB leadership seems to be leading from the rear, at least they seem to be moving in that direction.. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 15, 2019 17:23:33 GMT -5
Utah, I agree it is very difficult to make these calls. Almost certainly these same mistakes have been made throughout the history of the game. It's just that now we have the capacity to electronically frame the strike zone and see the mistakes. It just makes sense to use the technology we have to be more accurate.
In the particular case of Judge, it's egregious and at the very least the umpires need to be made aware of it and make some kind of adjustment.
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Post by inger on Aug 15, 2019 17:40:19 GMT -5
Utah, I agree it is very difficult to make these calls. Almost certainly these same mistakes have been made throughout the history of the game. It's just that now we have the capacity to electronically frame the strike zone and see the mistakes. It just makes sense to use the technology we have to be more accurate. In the particular case of Judge, it's egregious and at the very least the umpires need to be made aware of it and make some kind of adjustment. I dunno. I’m locked in a battle with one of the local electric companies over the sizing of a solar PV system. Obviously, the electric company is flexing their muscle as the “authority having jurisdiction”. Just like the umpires they are right, no matter how wrong they are... |
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Post by greatfatness on Aug 15, 2019 20:36:01 GMT -5
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Post by noetsi on Aug 15, 2019 20:43:17 GMT -5
I don't like machines replacing people. I think many of our economic and social problems are tied to that. Thankfully I don't think MLB is interested in this idea
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 15, 2019 20:57:30 GMT -5
I don't like machines replacing people. I think many of our economic and social problems are tied to that. Thankfully I don't think MLB is interested in this idea So you don't use an ATM? You go in and deal with a teller when you need some cash? You call the operator to make a long-distance call? You ask the gas station guy to pump your gas? |
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Post by noetsi on Aug 15, 2019 20:58:59 GMT -5
I don't like machines replacing people. I think many of our economic and social problems are tied to that. Thankfully I don't think MLB is interested in this idea So you don't use an ATM? You go in and deal with a teller when you need some cash? You call the operator to make a long-distance call? You ask the gas station guy to pump your gas? Yes to all of these |
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Post by inger on Aug 15, 2019 21:01:13 GMT -5
I don't like machines replacing people. I think many of our economic and social problems are tied to that. Thankfully I don't think MLB is interested in this idea So you don't use an ATM? You go in and deal with a teller when you need some cash? You call the operator to make a long-distance call? You ask the gas station guy to pump your gas? He has no money. Can’t afford long distance calls. Rides his bike to work. It gets stolen because he couldn’t afford a lock. Now he walks. State employee, you know... |
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Post by pippsheadache on Aug 15, 2019 21:02:26 GMT -5
So you don't use an ATM? You go in and deal with a teller when you need some cash? You call the operator to make a long-distance call? You ask the gas station guy to pump your gas? He has no money. Can’t afford long distance calls. Rides his bike to work. It gets stolen because he couldn’t afford a lock. Now he walks. State employee, you know... I know he's yanking our chains. |
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