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Post by inger on Jul 19, 2018 23:13:37 GMT -5
Here's one of the oddest player injuries I've ever heard of:
According to the legend of Clarence Blethen, the Red Sox rookie pitcher in 1923 thought he looked meaner without his false teeth when he was on the mound. He supposedly didn't think to put them back in his mouth while he batted. That led to Blethen sliding into second base and getting bit in the posterior by his own teeth.
He was removed from the game for excessive bleeding.
That's about the only way anyone was going to hear about Clarence. See, in that rookie season of 1923 he only appeared in 5 games, all in relief as a 29-year-old rookie. He was plastered for 29 hits in 17.2 innings. His 7.13 ERA was a blistering +58 that season. He was 35 before Brooklyn gave him another MLB chance and he pitched to an ERA of 9.00 in two games in that go round.
He probably should be a bit better known, in a way. He didn't even start to play MiLB until he was 26, yet wound up with a career MiLB record of 240-181; 4.64, pitching in the lower leagues until he was 44 years old. He must have either really loved baseball, or hated "real work". OR maybe he couldn't find other work where they would let him work without his teeth in...Or where he could get time off if he inadvertently bit himself in the ass...
One last oddity, but there is a trick to it. Blethen was credited with only 2 strikeouts in his brief MLB career, which is the same number of strike outs he was credited with for HIS ENTIRE 18 year MiLB career. Mosts seasons, the strikeouts weren't tracked. In one of the two situations that Blethen was on a team that tracked them he fanned 2 before being sent to another team that did not track them. In the other situation where he was on a team that recorded K's he failed to get one...Wouldn't that be a BITE IN THE ASS??? HAR-HAR-HAR...
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Post by kaybli on Jul 19, 2018 23:22:06 GMT -5
Here's one of the oddest player injuries I've ever heard of: According to the legend of Clarence Blethen, the Red Sox rookie pitcher in 1923 thought he looked meaner without his false teeth when he was on the mound. He supposedly didn't think to put them back in his mouth while he batted. That led to Blethen sliding into second base and getting bit in the posterior by his own teeth.
He was removed from the game for excessive bleeding.That's about the only way anyone was going to hear about Clarence. See, in that rookie season of 1923 he only appeared in 5 games, all in relief as a 29-year-old rookie. He was plastered for 29 hits in 17.2 innings. His 7.13 ERA was a blistering +58 that season. He was 35 before Brooklyn gave him another MLB chance and he pitched to an ERA of 9.00 in two games in that go round. He probably should be a bit better known, in a way. He didn't even start to play MiLB until he was 26, yet wound up with a career MiLB record of 240-181; 4.64, pitching in the lower leagues until he was 44 years old. He must have either really loved baseball, or hated "real work". OR maybe he couldn't find other work where they would let him work without his teeth in...Or where he could get time off if he inadvertently bit himself in the ass... One last oddity, but there is a trick to it. Blethen was credited with only 2 strikeouts in his brief MLB career, which is the same number of strike outs he was credited with for HIS ENTIRE 18 year MiLB career. Mosts seasons, the strikeouts weren't tracked. In one of the two situations that Blethen was on a team that tracked them he fanned 2 before being sent to another team that did not track them. In the other situation where he was on a team that recorded K's he failed to get one...Wouldn't that be a BITE IN THE ASS??? HAR-HAR-HAR...  
Inger is an expert on injuries of the ass.
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Post by inger on Jul 20, 2018 9:17:30 GMT -5
What is the value of a prospect? Apparently, the valuation has changed quite a bit over the years, as:
In 1931, Chattanooga shortstop Johnny Jones was traded to the Charlotte Hornets for a 25-pound turkey. Equally bizarre was when Jack Fenton was traded to San Francisco of the Pacific Coast League for a bag of prunes.
* I read the information above and copied it from a column I found on the internet. Having seen similar information several times, I became curious as to whether or not these oft-repeated tales were true, or were urban legends that have been carried from column to column by people who never did any research. So, I looked on baseball reference, and there was indeed a John Fenton who did get traded to the San Francisco team at one point. I could not find Johnny Jones, other than one that was a pitcher in the Negro Leagues. There are however MANY players listed simply as "Jones" or "J.Jones" which still allows for the plausibility that Johnny was traded for a tasty dinner...
When a baseball column that is supposed to be presenting interesting facts starts out with item #1, which is so informative as to allow me to learn that second base is the base most often stolen in baseball...I know I'm going to learn a LOT. I also learned in this column that Ted Williams "batting record" of .407 is one of the game's most impressive records...Nice job, Senior Writer Karin Lenhardt...
This may come as a shock to some of you, but you can't believe everything you read on the internet... (:
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Post by sierchio on Jul 20, 2018 22:06:23 GMT -5
TAKE GERMAN OUT OF THE ROTATION. PUT HIM IN AAA... NEXT SPRING LET'S TRY AGAIN. PUT CESSA IN THE ROTATION FOR NOW!!! Sorry about caps.. I'm angry!!!
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Post by sierchio on Jul 20, 2018 22:32:32 GMT -5
Yankees should trade for Harvey and introduce him to Sam Marsonek. He helped out Sabathia and Heathcott
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Post by sierchio on Jul 20, 2018 22:45:33 GMT -5
German sent to AAA
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Post by inger on Jul 21, 2018 0:19:36 GMT -5
The right move...now to find out who is replacing him...
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Post by kaybli on Jul 21, 2018 0:31:35 GMT -5
The right move...now to find out who is replacing him... Cessa for now. |
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Post by sierchio on Jul 21, 2018 0:49:11 GMT -5
Syndergaard. He's lined up perfectly to take Germans spot. I have a feeling I really butchered his name lol. Although its 99 percent Cessa... I'd like to see Sheffield and all the fuss
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Post by inger on Jul 22, 2018 0:37:33 GMT -5
Okay, it's factoid time. I got to thinking about Chapman and his 9 WP this season. I guess his wildness tonight made that thought come to mind. Anyway, coming into tonight's ball game Chapman was still well up among the league leaders in WP despite not having a lot of innings pitched. He had 9 WP in 40 innings, or one WP every 4.5 innings on the season...
I wanted to see who had the most WP in baseball history per innings pitched in a full season. Since I was working with a full season, I felt it best to compare pitchers who had at least 10 WP in a season. So, I found :
Stu Flythe. I'm so happy I found this guy. He's the perfect pitcher to dish factoids on...
His first foray into professional baseball was with the Philadelphia A's in 1936. He had not pitched in the minors prior to that, but did pitch for North Carolina State in college. Stuart tossed a remarkable AL-leading 16 wild pitches that season in only 39.1 innings. That's 2.5 innings per wild pitch. This is as far as I can tell the MLB record for pitchers with 10 or more WP, and by a long shot. As far as I can tell, ex Yankee Jason Grimsley is the second place finisher. When he was with the Philadelphia Phillies (what is it about Philadelphia and WP?) he chucked 14 wild ones in 61 innings (one every 4.4 innings).
Anyway, back to Stu Flythe. It was a remarkable season for Flythe in many ways. He relieved 14 times and started three times, managing to post a clean record of 0-0 behind an ERA of 13.04 as he allowed 49 hits and 56 earned runs in his paltry 39.1 innings. He also allowed 7 unearned runs. In addition, he allowed 61 walks while fanning 14. His BB per 9 must be some sort of record as it was 14.0, and K to BB ratio was also an unimpressive 0.23...
Just out of curiosity, I checked and I see that he faced 226 batters, so he allowed on WP per each 14.25 batters. Chapman (coming into tonight's game) had faced 154 hitters with 9 WP or one WP for each 17.11 hitters. Jason Grimsley tossed his 14 bricks within 272 hitters for a ratio of one every 19.43 hitters. Grimsley also had a season for the Yankees in which he tossed 16 wild ones, but he pitched nearly 100 innings, so that is chump change on this list.
So there is tonight's factoid...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2018 1:45:57 GMT -5
Since this thread is titled Misc. BS, I am emboldened to say that Gary Sanchez is lazy, inept and hugely overestimated. He almost seems pissed that pitchers no longer serve up the fastballs that he crushed before the league got wise. Now he flails at about any hard breaking stuff away, seems hypnotized by curveballs with north to south breaks and decides before pitches are delivered to swing no matter what. He either can’t or won’t move his legs on defence and if not for his arm, is a total liability behind the dish. The fact that he hits anywhere near the middle of the lineup is laughable. I hope he goes 3/5 tomorrow with 2 dingers and throws out a couple of runners because then I might be wrong, but over the Long haul, I think GS is a dud. Happy weekend gents.
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Post by inger on Jul 22, 2018 2:01:00 GMT -5
Since this thread is titled Misc. BS, I am emboldened to say that Gary Sanchez is lazy, inept and hugely overestimated. He almost seems pissed that pitchers no longer serve up the fastballs that he crushed before the league got wise. Now he flails at about any hard breaking stuff away, seems hypnotized by curveballs with north to south breaks and decides before pitches are delivered to swing no matter what. He either can’t or won’t move his legs on defence and if not for his arm, is a total liability behind the dish. The fact that he hits anywhere near the middle of the lineup is laughable. I hope he goes 3/5 tomorrow with 2 dingers and throws out a couple of runners because then I might be wrong, but over the Long haul, I think GS is a dud. Happy weekend gents. I suggested including him in a trade for a stud pitcher a while back and the idea was downright unpopular. I'd love to deal for Realmuto with the struggling Marlins. He seems to have over all game behind the dish and at the plate...I hope I'm wrong about Sanchez, too, but he needs to show us he can still play the game... I didn't feel the duo of Romine and Higashioka were too horribly over-matched as a combo...But Sanchez is back now. I suppose we do have to give him a bit of time to get his timing back and start hitting. As for the defense...I think in the long run his size is against him behind the plate... |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 22, 2018 8:06:57 GMT -5
From his debut in 2016 (he had 2 PAs in 2015) to today Gary Sanchez has been the best offensive catcher in baseball. He's just 2 games back from injury. His BABIP in 2018 is a comically low .194. Give him some more time.
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 22, 2018 8:45:51 GMT -5
The inability to stop balls in the dirt is still an big issue with Sanchez. We saw it again on Friday night in the top of the 9th, when the Mets got a gift run because Gary couldn't get his glove down in time to prevent a wild pitch and there really hasn't been any improvement from last season. It has to have an effect on the pitching staff and their willingness to throw a ball in the dirt with a runner at third.
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Post by inger on Jul 22, 2018 12:59:15 GMT -5
The inability to stop balls in the dirt is still an big issue with Sanchez. We saw it again on Friday night in the top of the 9th, when the Mets got a gift run because Gary couldn't get his glove down in time to prevent a wild pitch and there really hasn't been any improvement from last season. It has to have an effect on the pitching staff and their willingness to throw a ball in the dirt with a runner at third. Not only that, but runners at first or second can quickly become runners at second or third. I've always said that in order to judge how good a player is you not only think about how many runs he's driving in, but how many he's letting in... I still argue that Sanchez is young, but he's getting older every day. At some point, we may have to realize that there is nothing he can do to become better at that aspect of his game. He's a big boy. Perhaps too big to be able to continue to be the starting catcher. The Yankees once found a way to accommodate an aging but still skilled catcher in Yogi Berra along with another catcher that was also highly skilled in Elston Howard...Sanchez may have DH/BUC/1B as his title in the near future...Or if the Yankees don't like him in that role, then he'll need to be moved if he's unable to do the job defensively. I hope he can... As for the bat...I don't think he's finished. I feel he can hit and will be making the adjustments he has to make. He's not the first very good hitter to be hitting .180 in July...In fact, does anyone remember the entire season that Jeter hit .238? If you don't that's because you aren't thinking about Johnny Jeter who hit .238 with the 1970 Pirates...You can look it up!!! Seriously...so Sanchez is not going hit .290 this season, he has to focus on getting himself right and hitting .290 from then on. If he can finish at .240, he'll be a beast down the stretch... |
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