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Post by inger on Aug 10, 2018 23:04:27 GMT -5
I have to guess that Kirby Puckett is the only player ever to have a season where he qualified for the batting title and hit 0 home runs who went on to have a thirty home run season. Also to have no HR in his first 612 AB (and four in nearly 1200 AB his first two seasons) to go on to hit 207 HR was remarkable.
Given that he seemed not to have a conscience, was he one of the first steroid abusers? He has to wonder...
A remarkable hitter in any case. A remarkable lesson that these guys are great athletes, and that some are great individuals...And that some do remarkable things for their communities with the money they make. But may still have a very dark side to their personality...
I remember how much I admired Marvin Harrison of the Colts for so many years. Then I read an article about him (I can’t remember the publication it was in was it Sporting News, Sports Illustrated?). It was shocking to me. He still lived in “the hood” in Philly and was almost god-like in controlling a lot of the gang action in the area. Even was suspected of ordering that some people had to “disappear”...quite a few people, in fact...But he remained untouchable by the law. It seemed they knew things, but Marvin always sheided his involvement very cleverly...
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Post by kaybli on Aug 11, 2018 12:02:27 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Aug 11, 2018 12:03:01 GMT -5
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Post by sierchio on Aug 11, 2018 12:03:42 GMT -5
If I had to guess, I would think that was a shitty version of Andujar.. if anything
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Post by sierchio on Aug 11, 2018 12:05:23 GMT -5
I have to guess that Kirby Puckett is the only player ever to have a season where he qualified for the batting title and hit 0 home runs who went on to have a thirty home run season. Also to have no HR in his first 612 AB (and four in nearly 1200 AB his first two seasons) to go on to hit 207 HR was remarkable. Given that he seemed not to have a conscience, was he one of the first steroid abusers? He has to wonder... A remarkable hitter in any case. A remarkable lesson that these guys are great athletes, and that some are great individuals...And that some do remarkable things for their communities with the money they make. But may still have a very dark side to their personality... I remember how much I admired Marvin Harrison of the Colts for so many years. Then I read an article about him (I can’t remember the publication it was in was it Sporting News, Sports Illustrated?). It was shocking to me. He still lived in “the hood” in Philly and was almost god-like in controlling a lot of the gang action in the area. Even was suspected of ordering that some people had to “disappear”...quite a few people, in fact...But he remained untouchable by the law. It seemed they knew things, but Marvin always sheided his involvement very cleverly... Kirby Puckett was a pretty shitty individual... I don't know anything about Harrison but maybe he was doing good for the hood.. making the shitty people disappear... IDK, I didn't read the article |
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Post by inger on Aug 11, 2018 15:32:32 GMT -5
When I first replied to this kaybli’s post was still blank on my phone. That looks more like Roy Campanella in a Yankee uniform...That’s definitely got a bit more cocoa in the skin mixture than Gary does... |
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Post by inger on Aug 15, 2018 0:12:50 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone has noticed, or if anyone really cares, but at age 30 in AA Tim Tebow is showing some signs that he can actually play a little bit of baseball...He's hitting .273/.336/.399, which is not to say that he's threatening to make the Mets great again, but he's actually become quite competitive. There are still issues galore, like the 103Ks in 271 AB with just 22 BB. That's a lot of K's which means his BABIP has to be through the roof...He's hit 14 doubles, 1 triple and 6 home runs while driving in 36 runs in 84 games. He's been successful in his only SB attempt and has only made one error in the OF in 59 games this season. Given that he hit a combined .226 last season and a paltry .194 in 2016 in a brief trial, perhaps he'll yet get a cup of joe in the big leagues...
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Post by inger on Aug 15, 2018 0:26:29 GMT -5
Here's a record that will likely never be topped in baseball. Roy Campanella's record for the best CS percentage in MLB history. His career mark was a completely ridiculous 57%. Campy was a 26 year old rookie in 1948 when he followed Jackie Robinson to the Dodgers from the Negro Leagues. His first five years in the NL, he caught an amazing 67% in '48, 59% in '49, 63% in '50, 69% in '51, and 65% in '52...
He was aided by the fact that caught stealing had a very small stigma attached back then as only steals were published and game strategists had not yet considered that players that were running and getting caught 50-60% of the time were actually hurting the team...Small ball was still the king even though the ball was lively. In Campanella's 10 season MLB career he allowed 187 SB and caught 252 runners. His number were hurt when they dropped of to 45% and 42% in his final two seasons at ages 34 and 35. In his best season, 1951 Campanella only allowed 15 SB and nabbed 34 runners for that remarkable 69% record of CS during a season where the league average was 41% CS. During his entire career he never failed to have a higher CS % than the NL average...and his career % of 57% compared to a league average during that decade of 42%. He was a full 15% better than his contemporaries...
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 15, 2018 9:45:18 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone has noticed, or if anyone really cares, but at age 30 in AA Tim Tebow is showing some signs that he can actually play a little bit of baseball...He's hitting .273/.336/.399, which is not to say that he's threatening to make the Mets great again, but he's actually become quite competitive. There are still issues galore, like the 103Ks in 271 AB with just 22 BB. That's a lot of K's which means his BABIP has to be through the roof...He's hit 14 doubles, 1 triple and 6 home runs while driving in 36 runs in 84 games. He's been successful in his only SB attempt and has only made one error in the OF in 59 games this season. Given that he hit a combined .226 last season and a paltry .194 in 2016 in a brief trial, perhaps he'll yet get a cup of joe in the big leagues... Tebow's cup of coffee will have to be next year, because he's out for the season with an injury. www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/07/23/tim-tebow-likely-done-for-season-after-freak-injury-with-mets-minor-league-team-report-says.html |
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Post by utahyank on Aug 15, 2018 10:43:46 GMT -5
Here's a record that will likely never be topped in baseball. Roy Campanella's record for the best CS percentage in MLB history. His career mark was a completely ridiculous 57%. Campy was a 26 year old rookie in 1948 when he followed Jackie Robinson to the Dodgers from the Negro Leagues. His first five years in the NL, he caught an amazing 67% in '48, 59% in '49, 63% in '50, 69% in '51, and 65% in '52... He was aided by the fact that caught stealing had a very small stigma attached back then as only steals were published and game strategists had not yet considered that players that were running and getting caught 50-60% of the time were actually hurting the team...Small ball was still the king even though the ball was lively. In Campanella's 10 season MLB career he allowed 187 SB and caught 252 runners. His number were hurt when they dropped of to 45% and 42% in his final two seasons at ages 34 and 35. In his best season, 1951 Campanella only allowed 15 SB and nabbed 34 runners for that remarkable 69% record of CS during a season where the league average was 41% CS. During his entire career he never failed to have a higher CS % than the NL average...and his career % of 57% compared to a league average during that decade of 42%. He was a full 15% better than his contemporaries... Of all the Dodgers of that era, my favorite one was Campy.....Yogi was a good catcher and I don't want to imply that he wasn't...but Campy was better, and a very good hitter....the Yankees always seemed to be short an imposing corner OF'er after Keller left, and Yogi could play a decent LF...it would have been a good fit....but the way it worked out was really fun....thinking back, the Yankees and Dodgers met in '47, '49, '52, '53, '55, and '56...….each year the papers would have articles matching up the positions......always they would heavily favor the Dodgers...and truly they had an imposing lineup....the consensus would always be the Dodgers would win the WS...…….and except for '55, they were always wrong....haha... |
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Post by inger on Aug 15, 2018 17:50:46 GMT -5
Here's a record that will likely never be topped in baseball. Roy Campanella's record for the best CS percentage in MLB history. His career mark was a completely ridiculous 57%. Campy was a 26 year old rookie in 1948 when he followed Jackie Robinson to the Dodgers from the Negro Leagues. His first five years in the NL, he caught an amazing 67% in '48, 59% in '49, 63% in '50, 69% in '51, and 65% in '52... He was aided by the fact that caught stealing had a very small stigma attached back then as only steals were published and game strategists had not yet considered that players that were running and getting caught 50-60% of the time were actually hurting the team...Small ball was still the king even though the ball was lively. In Campanella's 10 season MLB career he allowed 187 SB and caught 252 runners. His number were hurt when they dropped of to 45% and 42% in his final two seasons at ages 34 and 35. In his best season, 1951 Campanella only allowed 15 SB and nabbed 34 runners for that remarkable 69% record of CS during a season where the league average was 41% CS. During his entire career he never failed to have a higher CS % than the NL average...and his career % of 57% compared to a league average during that decade of 42%. He was a full 15% better than his contemporaries... Of all the Dodgers of that era, my favorite one was Campy.....Yogi was a good catcher and I don't want to imply that he wasn't...but Campy was better, and a very good hitter....the Yankees always seemed to be short an imposing corner OF'er after Keller left, and Yogi could play a decent LF...it would have been a good fit....but the way it worked out was really fun....thinking back, the Yankees and Dodgers met in '47, '49, '52, '53, '55, and '56...….each year the papers would have articles matching up the positions......always they would heavily favor the Dodgers...and truly they had an imposing lineup....the consensus would always be the Dodgers would win the WS...…….and except for '55, they were always wrong....haha... |
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Post by inger on Aug 15, 2018 17:54:29 GMT -5
Of all the Dodgers of that era, my favorite one was Campy.....Yogi was a good catcher and I don't want to imply that he wasn't...but Campy was better, and a very good hitter....the Yankees always seemed to be short an imposing corner OF'er after Keller left, and Yogi could play a decent LF...it would have been a good fit....but the way it worked out was really fun....thinking back, the Yankees and Dodgers met in '47, '49, '52, '53, '55, and '56...….each year the papers would have articles matching up the positions......always they would heavily favor the Dodgers...and truly they had an imposing lineup....the consensus would always be the Dodgers would win the WS...…….and except for '55, they were always wrong....haha... Very happy to see you’ve chipped in with a bit more insight on Campanella. You truly are a treasure trove of information on this site that provides us with a unique perspective. I’ve noticed that Campanella had a couple of seasons where his numbers took a precipitive dive. I have assumed he played while injured on those seasons. Can you confirm that? ? ? |
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Post by utahyank on Aug 15, 2018 18:42:26 GMT -5
Very happy to see you’ve chipped in with a bit more insight on Campanella. You truly are a treasure trove of information on this site that provides us with a unique perspective. I’ve noticed that Campanella had a couple of seasons where his numbers took a precipitive dive. I have assumed he played while injured on those seasons. Can you confirm that? ? ? hmmmm….I went back into the memory bank for that information, and found it cleaned out....I can't remember him being disabled for an extended time in those year, but maybe more some nagging injuries that hurt his production.....while I was thinking of this the name of Bruce Edwards came to mind...I think he was Campy's backup about those years....if you find he played more than a bit, then it probably was because Campy was injured, because it was quite a falloff if Campy couldn't play.... |
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Post by inger on Aug 15, 2018 21:53:55 GMT -5
It looks like EdwRds got to play in about 40 games per year in Campanell’s early seasons. The in the second half of Campy’s career, Rube Walker was the BUC and he also played in about 40 games per year.
As I reviewed the numbers, Campanella dropped off to .207 BA st age 32. The following season he rebounded, only to drop way off again at 34, his next to last season. Perhaps he played banged up zbit at Age 32, but at 34 he was simply showing his age a bit as he finished the next and final season of his career at .242 with reduced power.
Father Time is cruel to athletes...He’s been very, very good to Utah, though. I’m grateful for that. Wish he’d been a bit kinder to mrG. He seems be a bit fickle, doesn’t he?
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Post by utahyank on Aug 16, 2018 1:00:01 GMT -5
It looks like EdwRds got to play in about 40 games per year in Campanell’s early seasons. The in the second half of Campy’s career, Rube Walker was the BUC and he also played in about 40 games per year. As I reviewed the numbers, Campanella dropped off to .207 BA st age 32. The following season he rebounded, only to drop way off again at 34, his next to last season. Perhaps he played banged up zbit at Age 32, but at 34 he was simply showing his age a bit as he finished the next and final season of his career at .242 with reduced power. Father Time is cruel to athletes...He’s been very, very good to Utah, though. I’m grateful for that. Wish he’d been a bit kinder to mrG. He seems be a bit fickle, doesn’t he? yeah...Mr G....as I recall you were close to him....I was a newbie on that board, and did not really connect other than I remember he talked of seeing Mantle and Mays sometimes...also that he was a military veteran....too bad he had a shortened life... |
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