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Post by inger on Mar 4, 2023 16:32:53 GMT -5
1979:
St. Louis Cardinal Gary Templeton became the first player in Major League history to have one-hundred hits from each side of the plate in the same season. The switch hitter batted strictly right-handed in his last nine games to aid his own cause in setting the record...
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Post by inger on Mar 4, 2023 16:35:16 GMT -5
Baseball Almanac Top Quote "I never got many questions about my managing. I tried to get twenty-five guys who didn't ask questions." - Earl Weaver…
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Post by inger on Mar 4, 2023 16:37:58 GMT -5
1980:
The Cincinnati Reds' Cesar Geronimo experienced déjà vu at the plate, as he became the three-thousandth career strikeout of the Houston Astros' Nolan Ryan. Ironically, he was also Bob Gibson's three-thousandth career strikeout victim six seasons earlier…
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Post by inger on Mar 4, 2023 16:42:47 GMT -5
Ron LeFlore, of the Montreal Expos, stole his sixty-second base on July 28th, 1980 during the seventh inning of a 5-4 win against the Cincinnati Reds, but was tagged out after stepping off the bag while trying to read the scoreboard that was noting the first stolen base occurrence one-hundred fifteen years earlier…
Embarrassing moments… 😵💫
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Post by inger on Mar 4, 2023 16:52:38 GMT -5
The Templeton factoid caught my fancy, so I checked his game logs. He was a robust 11 for 33 in those 9 games, including 6 for 15 on right vs. right at bats… Just enough hits to reach the 100 mark from the right side…
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 4, 2023 17:47:16 GMT -5
1979: St. Louis Cardinal Gary Templeton became the first player in Major League history to have one-hundred hits from each side of the plate in the same season. The switch hitter batted strictly right-handed in his last nine games to aid his own cause in setting the record... I remember Garry Templeton's alleged quote about the All Star voting for shortstop -- "If I ain't startin', I ain't departin'." Templeton later claimed that the phrase wasn't his, although the sentiment was, and he refused to play in the 1979 All Star Game after being picked as a reserve. It is sometimes forgotten that Templeton was traded from the Cardinals to the Padres for Ozzie Smith. Templeton could hit like a beast, but had little use for his glove and was not an easy guy to root for. I think he mellowed a bit as he got older.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 4, 2023 17:49:56 GMT -5
Baseball Almanac Top Quote "I never got many questions about my managing. I tried to get twenty-five guys who didn't ask questions." - Earl Weaver… In the same vein, Casey Stengel used to say that the secret to managing was to keep the guys who hated you away from the guys who hadn't made up their minds.
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Post by inger on Mar 4, 2023 19:48:44 GMT -5
1979: St. Louis Cardinal Gary Templeton became the first player in Major League history to have one-hundred hits from each side of the plate in the same season. The switch hitter batted strictly right-handed in his last nine games to aid his own cause in setting the record... I remember Garry Templeton's alleged quote about the All Star voting for shortstop -- "If I ain't startin', I ain't departin'." Templeton later claimed that the phrase wasn't his, although the sentiment was, and he refused to play in the 1979 All Star Game after being picked as a reserve. It is sometimes forgotten that Templeton was traded from the Cardinals to the Padres for Ozzie Smith. Templeton could hit like a beast, but had little use for his glove and was not an easy guy to root for. I think he mellowed a bit as he got older. The Cards definitely got the better of that deal. The young Templeton was rangy but error-prone. After the trade he became much less of a hitter as well, and Ozzie became to hit more consistently…
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 4, 2023 20:31:09 GMT -5
Did WWII make Hal Newhouser a Hall of Famer? 1944-1946 80-27 Rest of career 127-123… This question has interested me for a long time. When I was a kid I used to hear people say it. Newhouser was not a popular player, especially among his Tiger teammates. He had a volcanic temper and was known to berate his fellow players and cause considerable property damage when he was removed from a game or if he had a bad outing. Apparently he was as tough on himself as he was on others, although that still doesn't win you many fans. In addition, the fact that he was not in WWII rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, even though he twice tried to enlist but was rejected because he had a heart condition. If the draft board made you 4-F in WWII, you had a real issue. In looking at his record, it is clear that he did not really hit his stride until 1944, several years into war time baseball. In 1943, he had a record of 8-17 with a decent but not special ERA+ of 115. Then in 44-45, he put up an ERA+ of 159 and then 195 while going a combined 54-18 and winning back to back MVPs. Unquestionably the caliber of baseball then was lower, with most stars missing all of 1944 with a slow straggling back midway through 1945. However, by 1946, baseball was back full tilt. Ted Williams led in most offensive categories and was MVP, just beating out Newhouser. Hank Greenberg led the league in HRs and RBIs. Joe DiMaggio had some injury issues that hampered him but was still among the league leaders in many offensive categories. But it was normal baseball and Prince Hal went 26-9 and had an ERA+ of 190. So I don't think we can lump that in with the war years. In 1947, Newhouser was only 17-17, but put up a very good 132 ERA+. He wasn't getting much run support. In 1948 he led the AL in wins, going 21-12 with an ERA+ of 145, which is of course outstanding. Late in 1948 he sustained a shoulder injury that really cut down on his fastball, but still managed to go 18-11 with an ERA+ of 124 in 1949. But the effects of that injury really kicked in starting in 1950, his age 29 season, when he went 15-13 with a modestly above average ERA+ of 108. He followed this with three injury-shortened seasons where overall he pitched around the league average in ERA. The Tigers released him in July of 1953. He appeared to be washed up. His old Detroit teammate Hank Greenberg was part owner and GM in Cleveland by then. Greenberg believed that if used sparingly, Newhouser still had enough left to help his team. So he signed Newhouser as a free agent for 1954 and the Indians used him as a spot starter and long reliever on a team that went 110-44. No longer able to throw the ball by hitters, Newhouser relied on breaking stuff -- Joe DiMaggio said Newhouser threw the best curveball he had ever tried to hit -- and he responded beautifully, going 7-2 with an ERA+ of 187, the third best of his career. It was his last hurrah. He pitched just two games in 1955 and that was it. So I think we can make a case that while of course two years of war baseball made things a lot easier for him, he was still an outstanding pitcher. How different his record might have been under normal conditions we can never know. Just a goofy aside I came across -- Detroit owner William Briggs was the last American League owner to put lights in, not doing so until 1948. Newhouser pitched the first night game ever at what later came to be called Tiger Stadium, but what caught my eye was that the game started at 9:30 PM!! Fashionably late. Newhouser became a scout, working only in Michigan (that would definitely limit your possibilities) and the first prospect he signed was Detroit's own Milt Pappas, who went on to win over 200 games. He also signed Dean Chance, who won a Cy Young Award, and tried to sign Iron Man reliever Mike Marshall, but his Cleveland employers weren't going for it. Famously, as you related awhile back, he urgently recommended to his Houston employers that they sign Derek Jeter, who Newhouser understood was an exceptional talent, but the Astros went for Phil Nevin and Newhouser, temperamental as ever, simply quit at age 71 and never worked in baseball again.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 4, 2023 20:34:02 GMT -5
Another quick Newhouser factoid -- his 188 wins before his thirtieth birthday is the most for any pitcher of the live ball era. Not who I would have guessed.
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 4, 2023 20:50:56 GMT -5
Did WWII make Hal Newhouser a Hall of Famer? 1944-1946 80-27 Rest of career 127-123… This question has interested me for a long time. When I was a kid I used to hear people say it. Newhouser was not a popular player, especially among his Tiger teammates. He had a volcanic temper and was known to berate his fellow players and cause considerable property damage when he was removed from a game or if he had a bad outing. Apparently he was as tough on himself as he was on others, although that still doesn't win you many fans. In addition, the fact that he was not in WWII rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, even though he twice tried to enlist but was rejected because he had a heart condition. If the draft board made you 4-F in WWII, you had a real issue. In looking at his record, it is clear that he did not really hit his stride until 1944, several years into war time baseball. In 1943, he had a record of 8-17 with a decent but not special ERA+ of 115. Then in 44-45, he put up an ERA+ of 159 and then 195 while going a combined 54-18 and winning back to back MVPs. Unquestionably the caliber of baseball then was lower, with most stars missing all of 1944 with a slow straggling back midway through 1945. However, by 1946, baseball was back full tilt. Ted Williams led in most offensive categories and was MVP, just beating out Newhouser. Hank Greenberg led the league in HRs and RBIs. Joe DiMaggio had some injury issues that hampered him but was still among the league leaders in many offensive categories. But it was normal baseball and Prince Hal went 26-9 and had an ERA+ of 190. So I don't think we can lump that in with the war years. In 1947, Newhouser was only 17-17, but put up a very good 132 ERA+. He wasn't getting much run support. In 1948 he led the AL in wins, going 21-12 with an ERA+ of 145, which is of course outstanding. Late in 1948 he sustained a shoulder injury that really cut down on his fastball, but still managed to go 18-11 with an ERA+ of 124 in 1949. But the effects of that injury really kicked in starting in 1950, his age 29 season, when he went 15-13 with a modestly above average ERA+ of 108. He followed this with three injury-shortened seasons where overall he pitched around the league average in ERA. The Tigers released him in July of 1953. He appeared to be washed up. His old Detroit teammate Hank Greenberg was part owner and GM in Cleveland by then. Greenberg believed that if used sparingly, Newhouser still had enough left to help his team. So he signed Newhouser as a free agent for 1954 and the Indians used him as a spot starter and long reliever on a team that went 110-44. No longer able to throw the ball by hitters, Newhouser relied on breaking stuff -- Joe DiMaggio said Newhouser threw the best curveball he had ever tried to hit -- and he responded beautifully, going 7-2 with an ERA+ of 187, the third best of his career. It was his last hurrah. He pitched just two games in 1955 and that was it. So I think we can make a case that while of course two years of war baseball made things a lot easier for him, he was still an outstanding pitcher. How different his record might have been under normal conditions we can never know. Just a goofy aside I came across -- Detroit owner William Briggs was the last American League owner to put lights in, not doing so until 1948. Newhouser pitched the first night game ever at what later came to be called Tiger Stadium, but what caught my eye was that the game started at 9:30 PM!! Fashionably late. Newhouser became a scout, working only in Michigan (that would definitely limit your possibilities) and the first prospect he signed was Detroit's own Milt Pappas, who went on to win over 200 games. He also signed Dean Chance, who won a Cy Young Award, and tried to sign Iron Man reliever Mike Marshall, but his Cleveland employers weren't going for it. Famously, as you related awhile back, he urgently recommended to his Houston employers that they sign Derek Jeter, who Newhouser understood was an exceptional talent, but the Astros went for Phil Nevin and Newhouser, temperamental as ever, simply quit at age 71 and never worked in baseball again. Excellent treatise, Pipps! And, you wove in Newhouser's irascible nature, sewing it up comically at the end. How different the Yankees would have been without Derek Jeter? And, the Astros could have had Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Carl Everett, Ken Caminiti, Moises Alou, Lance Berkman, Derek Bell, and Derek Jeter instead of the likes of Tim Bogar or Ricky Gutierrez at shortstop.
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 4, 2023 20:53:21 GMT -5
Another quick Newhouser factoid -- his 188 wins before his thirtieth birthday is the most for any pitcher of the live ball era. Not who I would have guessed. That's astounding and must have been one hell of a curveball!
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 4, 2023 21:00:20 GMT -5
Another quick Newhouser factoid -- his 188 wins before his thirtieth birthday is the most for any pitcher of the live ball era. Not who I would have guessed. That's astounding and must have been one hell of a curveball! Pipps, who does Mayo remind you of on the Yankees? By the way, I love the name Virgil Trucks.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 4, 2023 21:02:34 GMT -5
Another quick Newhouser factoid -- his 188 wins before his thirtieth birthday is the most for any pitcher of the live ball era. Not who I would have guessed. That's astounding and must have been one hell of a curveball! That is great. I love those Lou Fonseca annual World Series highlights. Some unusual camera angles, and I love the sound effects for the bat hitting the ball. Almost Three Stooges-like.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 4, 2023 21:10:08 GMT -5
That's astounding and must have been one hell of a curveball! Pipps, who does Mayo remind you of on the Yankees? By the way, I love the name Virgil Trucks. Oops, just saw this question Rizz. Hmm, I'm drawing a blank on an Eddie Mayo look-alike. I'm not very good at that anyway. If you tell me, maybe I will see it. Virgil Trucks was the uncle of Butch Trucks, drummer for the Allman Brothers Band.
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