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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2023 15:36:57 GMT -5
In 1994 Greg Maddox 1.56 ERA was the lowest qualifying ERA of the decade. The second lowest was the 1.63 Maddux posted the following year…
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2023 15:39:26 GMT -5
Greg Maddox is the only post deadball era pitcher with 200 starts on which he didn’t walk a batter. In all he had 236, such starts…
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2023 15:41:51 GMT -5
How remarkable a fielder was Greg Maddox?
He holds the record for the most putouts by a pitcher at 546. Number two on that list is Kevin Brown, with 388…That’s a huge gap! …
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2023 15:43:15 GMT -5
I'll start with a Van Slyke one. Often after road games some of the relief pitchers such as Patterson, Kipper, Landrum, etc. would sit in the team hotel lobby and drink a beer. Typically I found that hotel security would not let fans into the lobbies of the team hotels but I was staying there so Bob invited me to join the group. The teams usually stayed at the nicest hotel closest to the ballpark. This time we were staying in downtown Los Angeles and it was about 11:00 P.M. Van Slyke and his wife and I think a child or two walked into the hotel and through the lobby to go to their room. A couple of the hotel workers politely asked Van Slyke for his autograph. He said no and kept on walking. Immediately his wife said, turn your ass around and sign those autographs. He immediately did what she said. I've got a picture of a group of us standing in front of Van Slyke's locker(he wasn't there at the time) at Three Rivers but I am not smart enough to know how to post it here. As a kid I loved baseball and dreamed of playing for the Yankee's but I wasn't worth a damn. Being able to walk out of the locker room and through the tunnel and onto the playing field was surreal.(This was in the morning before a night game so just a few player's were there). One of my favorite Leyland stories happened in Philadelphia. We were staying in a downtown Philadelphia hotel. We were leaving to eat supper at the Chart House. The team buses were waiting outside the hotel to take the team to the stadium. Leyland was waiting outside at the buses. I had met Jim several times but for sure he didn't remember me from Adam's house cat. I remarked to Jim that I was leaving the coaching to him that night. I'll never forget what he said: "I'll try not to F**K it up". Here are the pictures bearman sent me:
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2023 15:45:52 GMT -5
I thought Pipps would get a kick out of this. It is a mini poster put out by the Beach Club. These were the bands that played there the last summer I worked at the beach. I was fortunate to see them all.
Neat stuff there, too! I recall some of those groups, too. To be able to dredge that up after all this time is the bomb, daddy-o*… * lexicon in those times… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 6, 2023 20:21:41 GMT -5
I thought Pipps would get a kick out of this. It is a mini poster put out by the Beach Club. These were the bands that played there the last summer I worked at the beach. I was fortunate to see them all.
Bearman -- you are THE man. What a lineup -- a Hall of Fame of Carolina Beach Music. You know, there is a very good chance that you and I were in the same place at the same time during the last week of July in 1969. I know I saw Archie Bell and the Drells in MB, and the odds seem pretty high that it would have been in your club. Is the Beach Club the same as Fat Harold's Beach Club? I can remember being in The Pad and The Bowery, names I am sure you know. Getting sick on the roller coaster at The Pavilion after too much Calabash buffet. What I remember about Archie Bell and the Drells was that it seemed like Archie did all the singing and the Drells mainly just danced --"we not only sing, but we dance just as good as we walk -- now Tighten Up on those drums -- ah you're smokin' baby." You couldn't be in a bad mood for long with those guys. "I Just Can't Stop Dancin'" and "Showdown." Oh man, I would have killed to see Billy Stewart -- so fat he had to sit when he sang -- "Fat Boy" and "Sitting In The Park" and "Summertime." What a voice! And Jerry Butler!! The Iceman himself! What a show that must have been. The Tams -- maybe the greatest of all Beach Music groups -- "What Kind of Fool" and "Hey Girl Don't Bother Me" and "Untie Me." They must have been great in person. Tell us about it!! Now The Tymes I did see -- they were from Philly -- this summer is the 60th anniversary of their number one hit "So Much In Love." They were great guys. The two Georges -- Hilliard and Walker -- I would see at a record shop in Upper Darby PA that doubled as a radio broadcast location. They were a class act all the way. Did you know that their biggest Shag record "Ms. Grace" was written by John Hall, later of the group Orleans ("Dance With Me" and "Love Takes Time" and "Still The One)? At one time in the mid-60s those guys weren't making much money and actually worked as house painters for awhile. Nobody minded if they sang on the job. And The Esquires -- "Get On Up." Another fun group. It is occurring to me that probably nobody else on here knows what in the world we are discussing -- sorry guys, this is a serious life source. This is The Shag. In the late 60s-early 70s whatever crowd I was currently running with would take a couple of weeks in the summer and drift through the various beach towns, starting in Wildwood NJ and winding our way through Rehoboth Beach and Ocean City and Virginia Beach (the other Mecca of Beach Music) and through the Outer Banks and then the Ocracoke Ferry and finally into the Promised Land of Myrtle Beach. Gas at 39 cents a gallon, my brother's oil-leaking van for transport, splitting expenses, sun poisoning at the beach by day and the endless clubs by night -- excuse me while I wipe away this tear. Dropping into Murrell's Inlet and Pawley Island, which I am sure you know. I have some recollection that the bars in MB were serving their alcohol from those little mini-bottles like you have on airplanes. So you knew how much alcohol you were getting, and it wasn't a watered down drink. Do you remember something called SunFun in MB? I remember participating in some kind of Human Checkerboard game. More fun than it might sound. The girls in MB were prettier and more shall we say pert than the girls in the other beach towns. Although there were plenty of pretty ones everywhere when you're 19 years old. That beach scene was just the greatest. Nice people, not a care in the world. Okay, enough incoherence for one night. A million thanks for posting that -- tell us more when you can. As The Tams instructed us, "Be Young, Be Foolish, Be Happy." |
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Post by kaybli on Mar 6, 2023 20:28:33 GMT -5
I thought Pipps would get a kick out of this. It is a mini poster put out by the Beach Club. These were the bands that played there the last summer I worked at the beach. I was fortunate to see them all.
Bearman -- you are THE man. What a lineup -- a Hall of Fame of Carolina Beach Music. You know, there is a very good chance that you and I were in the same place at the same time during the last week of July in 1969. I know I saw Archie Bell and the Drells in MB, and the odds seem pretty high that it would have been in your club. Is the Beach Club the same as Fat Harold's Beach Club? I can remember being in The Pad and The Bowery, names I am sure you know. Getting sick on the roller coaster at The Pavilion after too much Calabash buffet. What I remember about Archie Bell and the Drells was that it seemed like Archie did all the singing and the Drells mainly just danced --"we not only sing, but we dance just as good as we walk -- now Tighten Up on those drums -- ah you're smokin' baby." You couldn't be in a bad mood for long with those guys. "I Just Can't Stop Dancin'" and "Showdown." Oh man, I would have killed to see Billy Stewart -- so fat he had to sit when he sang -- "Fat Boy" and "Sitting In The Park" and "Summertime." What a voice! And Jerry Butler!! The Iceman himself! What a show that must have been. The Tams -- maybe the greatest of all Beach Music groups -- "What Kind of Fool" and "Hey Girl Don't Bother Me" and "Untie Me." They must have been great in person. Tell us about it!! Now The Tymes I did see -- they were from Philly -- this summer is the 60th anniversary of their number one hit "So Much In Love." They were great guys. The two Georges -- Hilliard and Walker -- I would see at a record shop in Upper Darby PA that doubled as a radio broadcast location. They were a class act all the way. Did you know that their biggest Shag record "Ms. Grace" was written by John Hall, later of the group Orleans ("Dance With Me" and "Love Takes Time" and "Still The One)? At one time in the mid-60s those guys weren't making much money and actually worked as house painters for awhile. Nobody minded if they sang on the job. And The Esquires -- "Get On Up." Another fun group. It is occurring to me that probably nobody else on here knows what in the world we are discussing -- sorry guys, this is a serious life source. This is The Shag. In the late 60s-early 70s whatever crowd I was currently running with would take a couple of weeks in the summer and drift through the various beach towns, starting in Wildwood NJ and winding our way through Rehoboth Beach and Ocean City and Virginia Beach (the other Mecca of Beach Music) and through the Outer Banks and then the Ocracoke Ferry and finally into the Promised Land of Myrtle Beach. Gas at 39 cents a gallon, my brother's oil-leaking van for transport, splitting expenses, sun poisoning at the beach by day and the endless clubs by night -- excuse me while I wipe away this tear. Dropping into Murrell's Inlet and Pawley Island, which I am sure you know. I have some recollection that the bars in MB were serving their alcohol from those little mini-bottles like you have on airplanes. So you knew how much alcohol you were getting, and it wasn't a watered down drink. Do you remember something called SunFun in MB? I remember participating in some kind of Human Checkerboard game. More fun than it might sound. The girls in MB were prettier and more shall we say pert than the girls in the other beach towns. Although there were plenty of pretty ones everywhere when you're 19 years old. That beach scene was just the greatest. Nice people, not a care in the world. Okay, enough incoherence for one night. A million thanks for posting that -- tell us more when you can. As The Tams instructed us, "Be Young, Be Foolish, Be Happy." Wow, what a coincidence that pipps and bearman may have been in the same club in the same night back in 1969!
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 6, 2023 20:29:23 GMT -5
How remarkable a fielder was Greg Maddox? He holds the record for the most putouts by a pitcher at 546. Number two on that list is Kevin Brown, with 388…That’s a huge gap! … I know people always complained about Maddux getting the close calls on strikes, but he earned it with his pinpoint control. They used to say Ted Williams got the close calls to go his way too, but the umps knew Williams had better plate knowledge than they did. There were few pitchers I enjoyed watching more than Greg Maddux. Like a doctoral dissertation on pitching. I know he sucked in the post-season -- thankfully -- but he was amazing in every aspect of the game, and nowhere more so than in his fielding. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 6, 2023 20:31:32 GMT -5
Bearman -- you are THE man. What a lineup -- a Hall of Fame of Carolina Beach Music. You know, there is a very good chance that you and I were in the same place at the same time during the last week of July in 1969. I know I saw Archie Bell and the Drells in MB, and the odds seem pretty high that it would have been in your club. Is the Beach Club the same as Fat Harold's Beach Club? I can remember being in The Pad and The Bowery, names I am sure you know. Getting sick on the roller coaster at The Pavilion after too much Calabash buffet. What I remember about Archie Bell and the Drells was that it seemed like Archie did all the singing and the Drells mainly just danced --"we not only sing, but we dance just as good as we walk -- now Tighten Up on those drums -- ah you're smokin' baby." You couldn't be in a bad mood for long with those guys. "I Just Can't Stop Dancin'" and "Showdown." Oh man, I would have killed to see Billy Stewart -- so fat he had to sit when he sang -- "Fat Boy" and "Sitting In The Park" and "Summertime." What a voice! And Jerry Butler!! The Iceman himself! What a show that must have been. The Tams -- maybe the greatest of all Beach Music groups -- "What Kind of Fool" and "Hey Girl Don't Bother Me" and "Untie Me." They must have been great in person. Tell us about it!! Now The Tymes I did see -- they were from Philly -- this summer is the 60th anniversary of their number one hit "So Much In Love." They were great guys. The two Georges -- Hilliard and Walker -- I would see at a record shop in Upper Darby PA that doubled as a radio broadcast location. They were a class act all the way. Did you know that their biggest Shag record "Ms. Grace" was written by John Hall, later of the group Orleans ("Dance With Me" and "Love Takes Time" and "Still The One)? At one time in the mid-60s those guys weren't making much money and actually worked as house painters for awhile. Nobody minded if they sang on the job. And The Esquires -- "Get On Up." Another fun group. It is occurring to me that probably nobody else on here knows what in the world we are discussing -- sorry guys, this is a serious life source. This is The Shag. In the late 60s-early 70s whatever crowd I was currently running with would take a couple of weeks in the summer and drift through the various beach towns, starting in Wildwood NJ and winding our way through Rehoboth Beach and Ocean City and Virginia Beach (the other Mecca of Beach Music) and through the Outer Banks and then the Ocracoke Ferry and finally into the Promised Land of Myrtle Beach. Gas at 39 cents a gallon, my brother's oil-leaking van for transport, splitting expenses, sun poisoning at the beach by day and the endless clubs by night -- excuse me while I wipe away this tear. Dropping into Murrell's Inlet and Pawley Island, which I am sure you know. I have some recollection that the bars in MB were serving their alcohol from those little mini-bottles like you have on airplanes. So you knew how much alcohol you were getting, and it wasn't a watered down drink. Do you remember something called SunFun in MB? I remember participating in some kind of Human Checkerboard game. More fun than it might sound. The girls in MB were prettier and more shall we say pert than the girls in the other beach towns. Although there were plenty of pretty ones everywhere when you're 19 years old. That beach scene was just the greatest. Nice people, not a care in the world. Okay, enough incoherence for one night. A million thanks for posting that -- tell us more when you can. As The Tams instructed us, "Be Young, Be Foolish, Be Happy." Wow, what a coincidence that pipps and bearman may have been in the same club in the same night back in 1969!
Hey, I was the guy who left the big tip. Remember me, Bearman?  |
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2023 21:59:00 GMT -5
Bearman -- you are THE man. What a lineup -- a Hall of Fame of Carolina Beach Music. You know, there is a very good chance that you and I were in the same place at the same time during the last week of July in 1969. I know I saw Archie Bell and the Drells in MB, and the odds seem pretty high that it would have been in your club. Is the Beach Club the same as Fat Harold's Beach Club? I can remember being in The Pad and The Bowery, names I am sure you know. Getting sick on the roller coaster at The Pavilion after too much Calabash buffet. What I remember about Archie Bell and the Drells was that it seemed like Archie did all the singing and the Drells mainly just danced --"we not only sing, but we dance just as good as we walk -- now Tighten Up on those drums -- ah you're smokin' baby." You couldn't be in a bad mood for long with those guys. "I Just Can't Stop Dancin'" and "Showdown." Oh man, I would have killed to see Billy Stewart -- so fat he had to sit when he sang -- "Fat Boy" and "Sitting In The Park" and "Summertime." What a voice! And Jerry Butler!! The Iceman himself! What a show that must have been. The Tams -- maybe the greatest of all Beach Music groups -- "What Kind of Fool" and "Hey Girl Don't Bother Me" and "Untie Me." They must have been great in person. Tell us about it!! Now The Tymes I did see -- they were from Philly -- this summer is the 60th anniversary of their number one hit "So Much In Love." They were great guys. The two Georges -- Hilliard and Walker -- I would see at a record shop in Upper Darby PA that doubled as a radio broadcast location. They were a class act all the way. Did you know that their biggest Shag record "Ms. Grace" was written by John Hall, later of the group Orleans ("Dance With Me" and "Love Takes Time" and "Still The One)? At one time in the mid-60s those guys weren't making much money and actually worked as house painters for awhile. Nobody minded if they sang on the job. And The Esquires -- "Get On Up." Another fun group. It is occurring to me that probably nobody else on here knows what in the world we are discussing -- sorry guys, this is a serious life source. This is The Shag. In the late 60s-early 70s whatever crowd I was currently running with would take a couple of weeks in the summer and drift through the various beach towns, starting in Wildwood NJ and winding our way through Rehoboth Beach and Ocean City and Virginia Beach (the other Mecca of Beach Music) and through the Outer Banks and then the Ocracoke Ferry and finally into the Promised Land of Myrtle Beach. Gas at 39 cents a gallon, my brother's oil-leaking van for transport, splitting expenses, sun poisoning at the beach by day and the endless clubs by night -- excuse me while I wipe away this tear. Dropping into Murrell's Inlet and Pawley Island, which I am sure you know. I have some recollection that the bars in MB were serving their alcohol from those little mini-bottles like you have on airplanes. So you knew how much alcohol you were getting, and it wasn't a watered down drink. Do you remember something called SunFun in MB? I remember participating in some kind of Human Checkerboard game. More fun than it might sound. The girls in MB were prettier and more shall we say pert than the girls in the other beach towns. Although there were plenty of pretty ones everywhere when you're 19 years old. That beach scene was just the greatest. Nice people, not a care in the world. Okay, enough incoherence for one night. A million thanks for posting that -- tell us more when you can. As The Tams instructed us, "Be Young, Be Foolish, Be Happy." Wow, what a coincidence that pipps and bearman may have been in the same club in the same night back in 1969!
I suspect that Pipps and I were often in the same state, sometimes in the same county, and perhaps a time or two in he same town. We may have passed each other on route one, I-95, or 202, maybe route 52 in Del/Pa. Perhaps one of us yielded to the other at a busy intersection… or waited a the same red light… |
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2023 22:03:57 GMT -5
"Maybe they made me captain because I've been here so long. If I'm supposed to be captain by example, then I'll be a terrible captain." - Thurman Munson…
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2023 23:24:30 GMT -5
When Dave Righetti pitched his no hitter on 7-4-83, his third baseman that day was Bert Campaneris, who was participating in his record 11th no-hitter…
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 7, 2023 6:49:54 GMT -5
Wow, what a coincidence that pipps and bearman may have been in the same club in the same night back in 1969!
I suspect that Pipps and I were often in the same state, sometimes in the same county, and perhaps a time or two in he same town. We may have passed each other on route one, I-95, or 202, maybe route 52 in Del/Pa. Perhaps one of us yielded to the other at a busy intersection… or waited a the same red light… Almost inevitable Inger given your old job and the fact that I have spent a large percentage of my life meandering those roads. I live just off of Rt. 52 near the PA/DE border and grew up just off of Rt. 1 in Chadds Ford. We used to see how many pushups we could do on Rt. 1 before a car forced us to bail out. It was a lot more rural back then! I journeyed down your way too, to Cecil County Dragway and the track at Fair Hill. I remember the funky town of Port Deposit -- back in the 70s it almost seemed like ruins of an ancient civilization. Elk Neck State Park and Schaeffer's Canal House. Fourth grade class trip to Conowingo Dam. My uncle once had a car dealership in Bel Air and there was a roller rink there where we killed some time. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 7, 2023 6:53:14 GMT -5
When Dave Righetti pitched his no hitter on 7-4-83, his third baseman that day was Bert Campaneris, who was participating in his record 11th no-hitter… That is a great stat. Now I'm wondering what the other 10 were. One had to be Catfish Hunter's perfecto in Oakland. A good research project for later. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 7, 2023 7:45:59 GMT -5
When Dave Righetti pitched his no hitter on 7-4-83, his third baseman that day was Bert Campaneris, who was participating in his record 11th no-hitter… That is a great stat. Now I'm wondering what the other 10 were. One had to be Catfish Hunter's perfecto in Oakland. A good research project for later. A very cursory search showed that six times Campaneris was on the team that pitched the no-hitter, and five times on the team that got no-hit. Since Reggie Jackson (9) and Sal Bando (8) are next on that list, clearly there is a lot of Oakland involvement. And probably a lot of Nolan Ryan involvement on both sides of the equation for Campy since he also played for the Rangers and Angels. |
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