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Post by inger on Mar 7, 2023 9:50:39 GMT -5
I suspect that Pipps and I were often in the same state, sometimes in the same county, and perhaps a time or two in he same town. We may have passed each other on route one, I-95, or 202, maybe route 52 in Del/Pa. Perhaps one of us yielded to the other at a busy intersection… or waited a the same red light… Almost inevitable Inger given your old job and the fact that I have spent a large percentage of my life meandering those roads. I live just off of Rt. 52 near the PA/DE border and grew up just off of Rt. 1 in Chadds Ford. We used to see how many pushups we could do on Rt. 1 before a car forced us to bail out. It was a lot more rural back then! I journeyed down your way too, to Cecil County Dragway and the track at Fair Hill. I remember the funky town of Port Deposit -- back in the 70s it almost seemed like ruins of an ancient civilization. Elk Neck State Park and Schaeffer's Canal House. Fourth grade class trip to Conowingo Dam. My uncle once had a car dealership in Bel Air and there was a roller rink there where we killed some time. One place I never went to was the Dragway, and I don’t know how that came to be. I had nothing against it. My older brothers used to go, and you might have thought they’d drag me along, but no… we weren’t close like that. Curious now. If your uncle by any chance might have had a Chevy dealership, I bought one of those Chevy Lumina vans when they first came out. I still see some on the roads.And I bought mine in Bel Air… |
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Post by inger on Mar 7, 2023 10:05:03 GMT -5
In 2012 Edinson Volquez and Rocky Romero tied for the MLB lead by issuing 105 bases on balls each. No pitcher has issued 100 since then…
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Post by inger on Mar 7, 2023 10:06:31 GMT -5
Randy Johnson is the only pitcher to toss a perfect game in his forties…
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Post by inger on Mar 7, 2023 10:14:31 GMT -5
The biggest gap ever between an ERA leader and 2nd place in his league was in 2000, when Pedro Martinez posted 1.74 and Roger Clemens was at 3.70…
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Post by bearman on Mar 7, 2023 10:15:18 GMT -5
I thought Pipps would get a kick out of this. It is a mini poster put out by the Beach Club. These were the bands that played there the last summer I worked at the beach. I was fortunate to see them all.
Bearman -- you are THE man. What a lineup -- a Hall of Fame of Carolina Beach Music. You know, there is a very good chance that you and I were in the same place at the same time during the last week of July in 1969. I know I saw Archie Bell and the Drells in MB, and the odds seem pretty high that it would have been in your club. Is the Beach Club the same as Fat Harold's Beach Club? I can remember being in The Pad and The Bowery, names I am sure you know. Getting sick on the roller coaster at The Pavilion after too much Calabash buffet. What I remember about Archie Bell and the Drells was that it seemed like Archie did all the singing and the Drells mainly just danced --"we not only sing, but we dance just as good as we walk -- now Tighten Up on those drums -- ah you're smokin' baby." You couldn't be in a bad mood for long with those guys. "I Just Can't Stop Dancin'" and "Showdown." Oh man, I would have killed to see Billy Stewart -- so fat he had to sit when he sang -- "Fat Boy" and "Sitting In The Park" and "Summertime." What a voice! And Jerry Butler!! The Iceman himself! What a show that must have been. The Tams -- maybe the greatest of all Beach Music groups -- "What Kind of Fool" and "Hey Girl Don't Bother Me" and "Untie Me." They must have been great in person. Tell us about it!! Now The Tymes I did see -- they were from Philly -- this summer is the 60th anniversary of their number one hit "So Much In Love." They were great guys. The two Georges -- Hilliard and Walker -- I would see at a record shop in Upper Darby PA that doubled as a radio broadcast location. They were a class act all the way. Did you know that their biggest Shag record "Ms. Grace" was written by John Hall, later of the group Orleans ("Dance With Me" and "Love Takes Time" and "Still The One)? At one time in the mid-60s those guys weren't making much money and actually worked as house painters for awhile. Nobody minded if they sang on the job. And The Esquires -- "Get On Up." Another fun group. It is occurring to me that probably nobody else on here knows what in the world we are discussing -- sorry guys, this is a serious life source. This is The Shag. In the late 60s-early 70s whatever crowd I was currently running with would take a couple of weeks in the summer and drift through the various beach towns, starting in Wildwood NJ and winding our way through Rehoboth Beach and Ocean City and Virginia Beach (the other Mecca of Beach Music) and through the Outer Banks and then the Ocracoke Ferry and finally into the Promised Land of Myrtle Beach. Gas at 39 cents a gallon, my brother's oil-leaking van for transport, splitting expenses, sun poisoning at the beach by day and the endless clubs by night -- excuse me while I wipe away this tear. Dropping into Murrell's Inlet and Pawley Island, which I am sure you know. I have some recollection that the bars in MB were serving their alcohol from those little mini-bottles like you have on airplanes. So you knew how much alcohol you were getting, and it wasn't a watered down drink. Do you remember something called SunFun in MB? I remember participating in some kind of Human Checkerboard game. More fun than it might sound. The girls in MB were prettier and more shall we say pert than the girls in the other beach towns. Although there were plenty of pretty ones everywhere when you're 19 years old. That beach scene was just the greatest. Nice people, not a care in the world. Okay, enough incoherence for one night. A million thanks for posting that -- tell us more when you can. As The Tams instructed us, "Be Young, Be Foolish, Be Happy." Pipps has forgotten more about Beach Music than I even know. I need to make a correction. I did not actually work at the Beach Club. I was a bar tender, beer and wine, at a place called The Barrel a block off the ocean in Ocean Drive, about 3 miles from the Beach Club itself and directly across from the Ocean Drive pavilion. It basically took over as the go to place after the Pad closed in 1967. Because I was a beach employee I was allowed to attend shows at the Beach Club for free, and I did. (Being a young bar tender or a lifeguard at the beach at that time was a pretty good gig.) The "Sun Fun" festival took place annually at Myrtle Beach. Pipps you may know this but at the time Myrtle Beach was actually 7 different beaches ranging from Cherry Grove in the North to Myrtle Beach to the South. If I remember correctly the movie "Shag" was supposed to take place during the Sun Fun festival. It could be argued that Ms. Grace is one of the top 5 shag songs of all times. The Tam's were one of the most popular beach bands. I remembered when they played at the Beach Club they would come from the back of the audience to the stage singing "I've been hurt". I believe there are still a couple groups performing as the Tam's, perhaps with some of the kids and grand kids of the original group. I think I have told the story before about going to an after party or two at Atlantic Beach which at the times was an all African American beach located almost directly across from the Beach Club. Those were crazy but I was welcomed. I'll get out of the way back machine now. Nice hearing your stories Pipps. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 7, 2023 10:58:41 GMT -5
When Dave Righetti pitched his no hitter on 7-4-83, his third baseman that day was Bert Campaneris, who was participating in his record 11th no-hitter… Okay, it didn't take long to find most of these once I started looking. First of all, the A's were no-hit an awful lot during Campaneris's time with them (1964-1976). They were no-hit by Jim Palmer in 1969, Clyde Wright in 1970, Jim Bibby in 1973, Dick Bosman in 1974 and a combined Blue Moon Odom/Francisco Barrios (when they were with the White Sox) in 1976. There's five of them, and in most of those years the A's had very good-hitting teams (and won rings in 73-74.) On the positive side, with Oakland Campy was in the lineup for Catfish Hunter's perfect game in 1968, for a Vida Blue no-hitter in 1970 and for a combined Blue/Glenn Abbbott/Paul Lindblad/Rollie Fingers effort in 1973. So that's eight during his time with the Athletics. He was with Texas when Bert Blyleven pitched a no-hitter in 1977, and as you note with the Yankees for Rags's no-hitter in 1983, his last season in the majors. That makes ten. I could not find an eleventh. He was with the Angels from 79-81, but they didn't have any no-hitters in those years that I could find. It must be out there, I just can't find it. |
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Post by inger on Mar 7, 2023 11:22:16 GMT -5
9/17/84, Reggie Jackson hits his 500th HR on the 17th anniversary date of his first HR…
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Post by inger on Mar 7, 2023 11:28:28 GMT -5
”If you had a pill that would guarantee a pitcher twenty wins but might take five years off his life, he'd take it." - Jim Bouton…
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 7, 2023 11:35:20 GMT -5
Bearman -- you are THE man. What a lineup -- a Hall of Fame of Carolina Beach Music. You know, there is a very good chance that you and I were in the same place at the same time during the last week of July in 1969. I know I saw Archie Bell and the Drells in MB, and the odds seem pretty high that it would have been in your club. Is the Beach Club the same as Fat Harold's Beach Club? I can remember being in The Pad and The Bowery, names I am sure you know. Getting sick on the roller coaster at The Pavilion after too much Calabash buffet. What I remember about Archie Bell and the Drells was that it seemed like Archie did all the singing and the Drells mainly just danced --"we not only sing, but we dance just as good as we walk -- now Tighten Up on those drums -- ah you're smokin' baby." You couldn't be in a bad mood for long with those guys. "I Just Can't Stop Dancin'" and "Showdown." Oh man, I would have killed to see Billy Stewart -- so fat he had to sit when he sang -- "Fat Boy" and "Sitting In The Park" and "Summertime." What a voice! And Jerry Butler!! The Iceman himself! What a show that must have been. The Tams -- maybe the greatest of all Beach Music groups -- "What Kind of Fool" and "Hey Girl Don't Bother Me" and "Untie Me." They must have been great in person. Tell us about it!! Now The Tymes I did see -- they were from Philly -- this summer is the 60th anniversary of their number one hit "So Much In Love." They were great guys. The two Georges -- Hilliard and Walker -- I would see at a record shop in Upper Darby PA that doubled as a radio broadcast location. They were a class act all the way. Did you know that their biggest Shag record "Ms. Grace" was written by John Hall, later of the group Orleans ("Dance With Me" and "Love Takes Time" and "Still The One)? At one time in the mid-60s those guys weren't making much money and actually worked as house painters for awhile. Nobody minded if they sang on the job. And The Esquires -- "Get On Up." Another fun group. It is occurring to me that probably nobody else on here knows what in the world we are discussing -- sorry guys, this is a serious life source. This is The Shag. In the late 60s-early 70s whatever crowd I was currently running with would take a couple of weeks in the summer and drift through the various beach towns, starting in Wildwood NJ and winding our way through Rehoboth Beach and Ocean City and Virginia Beach (the other Mecca of Beach Music) and through the Outer Banks and then the Ocracoke Ferry and finally into the Promised Land of Myrtle Beach. Gas at 39 cents a gallon, my brother's oil-leaking van for transport, splitting expenses, sun poisoning at the beach by day and the endless clubs by night -- excuse me while I wipe away this tear. Dropping into Murrell's Inlet and Pawley Island, which I am sure you know. I have some recollection that the bars in MB were serving their alcohol from those little mini-bottles like you have on airplanes. So you knew how much alcohol you were getting, and it wasn't a watered down drink. Do you remember something called SunFun in MB? I remember participating in some kind of Human Checkerboard game. More fun than it might sound. The girls in MB were prettier and more shall we say pert than the girls in the other beach towns. Although there were plenty of pretty ones everywhere when you're 19 years old. That beach scene was just the greatest. Nice people, not a care in the world. Okay, enough incoherence for one night. A million thanks for posting that -- tell us more when you can. As The Tams instructed us, "Be Young, Be Foolish, Be Happy." Pipps has forgotten more about Beach Music than I even know. I need to make a correction. I did not actually work at the Beach Club. I was a bar tender, beer and wine, at a place called The Barrel a block off the ocean in Ocean Drive, about 3 miles from the Beach Club itself and directly across from the Ocean Drive pavilion. It basically took over as the go to place after the Pad closed in 1967. Because I was a beach employee I was allowed to attend shows at the Beach Club for free, and I did. (Being a young bar tender or a lifeguard at the beach at that time was a pretty good gig.) The "Sun Fun" festival took place annually at Myrtle Beach. Pipps you may know this but at the time Myrtle Beach was actually 7 different beaches ranging from Cherry Grove in the North to Myrtle Beach to the South. If I remember correctly the movie "Shag" was supposed to take place during the Sun Fun festival. It could be argued that Ms. Grace is one of the top 5 shag songs of all times. The Tam's were one of the most popular beach bands. I remembered when they played at the Beach Club they would come from the back of the audience to the stage singing "I've been hurt". I believe there are still a couple groups performing as the Tam's, perhaps with some of the kids and grand kids of the original group. I think I have told the story before about going to an after party or two at Atlantic Beach which at the times was an all African American beach located almost directly across from the Beach Club. Those were crazy but I was welcomed. I'll get out of the way back machine now. Nice hearing your stories Pipps. You know plenty of Beach Music, Bearman. Plus you got to live among it! I can see where tending bar back then (probably still) was a good spot to be in. You and Desousa definitely have the stories from that line of work. From a distance of 54 years I can't remember if I was in The Barrel, but seeing as how it was across from the Pavilion the odds are pretty good. Yeah, it wasn't always clear to me what the boundaries of Myrtle Beach were. Not that it mattered to anyone except maybe the police. I think you're right about the movie "Shag" (with dear old Phoebe Cates in her youth.) I saw it when it came out in 1989 but haven't seen it since. For sure The Tams are right near the top of the Beach Bands. I see that today there are two bands operating as the Tams, one with an original member (he has to be in his eighties) and one with the son of original member Joe Pope, who died many years ago. Their first charted release, "Untie Me," was written by Joe South, who later had his own hits like "Games People Play" and "Walk A Mile In My Shoes." All Atlanta boys. I love your description of how they would come up from the back singing "I've Been Hurt." Of course Bill Deal and The Rhondels covered that later and had a big hit with it, as they also covered The Tams' "What Kind Of Fool" but turned it into a completely different song. Both versions are great. Deal and the Rhondels are as you know another of the all-time Beach Music bands, based in Virginia Beach where I did get to see them several times. Amazing live band. Polka Rock! Chairmen of The Board, The Drifters, Willie Tee, The Catalinas ("Summertime's Calling Me") and Band of Oz, all legendary. Myrtle Beach was my introduction to "Sixty Minute Man" by The Dominoes and "Across The Street" by Lenny O'Henry. "Rainy Day Bells" by The Globetrotters is a beach song much-loved in Philly too. It was the first song I played when I had an oldies show. Doug Clark and The Hot Nuts were another scene altogether. Raunchy even by today's standards. Somehow on one of our visits to MB we veered off to Columbia and the University of South Carolina where there was some kind of 48-hour party of which the stars were The Hot Nuts and a local band The Swingin' Medallions, who had one big hit "Double Shot Of My Baby's Love." I hung around the fringes for awhile, but even as an irresponsible youth it was getting to be too much for me so we headed up to Salvo in the OBX to recover and eat wholesome seafood for a few days. Thanks for dredging up these great memories, not to mention your great Pirates stories. A life well-lived!! |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 7, 2023 11:36:19 GMT -5
9/17/84, Reggie Jackson hits his 500th HR on the 17th anniversary date of his first HR… Always a hot dog. |
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Post by inger on Mar 7, 2023 14:41:11 GMT -5
9/17/84, Reggie Jackson hits his 500th HR on the 17th anniversary date of his first HR… Always a hot dog. “A black man with an IQ of 160.”, no less… Something about the man was so likable. The more mustard and relish he put on the dog the better, because when the chips were down, he backed it all up… |
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Post by inger on Mar 7, 2023 15:06:23 GMT -5
"He's (Dave Stieb) good, but there's nobody in this world as good as he acts like he is." - Gene Mauch…
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Post by inger on Mar 7, 2023 15:11:51 GMT -5
Chicago Cubs' ace Greg Maddux set a Major League record for pitchers when he recorded seven putouts in a 4-0 win over the Los Angeles Dodgers. Over the course of the season he recorded thirty-nine putouts for the year to tie Vic Willis for the National League mark set in 1904. Maddux went on to match it again both in 1991 and 1993...
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Post by inger on Mar 7, 2023 17:55:35 GMT -5
Chicago Cubs' ace Greg Maddux set a Major League record for pitchers when he recorded seven putouts in a 4-0 win over the Los Angeles Dodgers. Over the course of the season he recorded thirty-nine putouts for the year to tie Vic Willis for the National League mark set in 1904. Maddux went on to match it again both in 1991 and 1993... Should have noted that this was in 1989… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 7, 2023 19:37:12 GMT -5
Almost inevitable Inger given your old job and the fact that I have spent a large percentage of my life meandering those roads. I live just off of Rt. 52 near the PA/DE border and grew up just off of Rt. 1 in Chadds Ford. We used to see how many pushups we could do on Rt. 1 before a car forced us to bail out. It was a lot more rural back then! I journeyed down your way too, to Cecil County Dragway and the track at Fair Hill. I remember the funky town of Port Deposit -- back in the 70s it almost seemed like ruins of an ancient civilization. Elk Neck State Park and Schaeffer's Canal House. Fourth grade class trip to Conowingo Dam. My uncle once had a car dealership in Bel Air and there was a roller rink there where we killed some time. One place I never went to was the Dragway, and I don’t know how that came to be. I had nothing against it. My older brothers used to go, and you might have thought they’d drag me along, but no… we weren’t close like that. Curious now. If your uncle by any chance might have had a Chevy dealership, I bought one of those Chevy Lumina vans when they first came out. I still see some on the roads.And I bought mine in Bel Air… Oops, forgot to answer your question -- just to close the loop -- no my Uncle had a Chrysler-Plymouth-Dodge dealership in Bel Air. I think he sold it around 1970. No doubt run out of town by an outraged citizenry. I know he still had it in 1969 because I remember watching the Jets and Colts in Super Bowl III -- the first one that was actually called "The Super Bowl" -- at his house in MD and he had a big party where 95 percent of the people were intense Colts fans and boy were they upset. The Colts were huge favorites as you no doubt recall. They were blistering Don Shula, who had not yet become a legend, for leaving Earl Morrall in so long before turning to an aged and banged-up Johnny Unitas. Man did they hate Joe Willie Namath. They questioned his ability, his intelligence, his masculinity, his parentage, anything you could possibly question, but he made his insane prediction of victory stand up. Hope the Lumina turned out okay for you. My Uncle would have tried to sell you a Charger SS or a Barracuda. "You'd look perfect in one of these, and the girls will be impressed." He's in his late 80s now and could still sell filet mignon to a vegan. |
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