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Post by kaybli on Mar 4, 2024 16:30:51 GMT -5
Yes...comedy, like beauty & music, is in the eye and ear of the beholder. I'm a big fan of standup comedy, and Robin Williams did have a few bits that absolutely cracked me up. A few of my favorites today are Brian Regan, Nate Bargatze, Al Madrigal, Mark Maron & Kathleen Madigan. Tom Segura & Bill Burr are a little on the rougher side, as is Doug Stanhope, who lives in the small Southern Arizona town of Bisbee. Loved the late, great Norm Macdonald...saw him a couple of times at local comedy clubs. I was a huge fan of Robert Klein and, speaking of The Little Rascals, this routine still makes me laugh after seeing it many times... www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4U8vYWjpsI&t=10sOutstanding bit from Klein, Bob. I can't believe I forgot to mention him among my favorites. One of the early "thinking-person's" comics, around the same time as Carlin, who I liked from the get-go back to the Al Sleet days. His bitterness did not play well as he got older, which I would also say about Letterman (or even Mark Twain for that matter.) David Steinberg was also in that crew, although I never thought he was at the level of Klein or Carlin. Kudos to you for keeping up with the current flock. I started gradually closing the shutters on popular culture -- comedy, music, movies, TV -- maybe 20 years ago. Not some deliberate strategy, just started losing interest and more of the people I interact with weren't talking about it either. Probably a bad thing, but I don't feel much sense of loss. I too loved the Little Rascals. A staple of Saturday morning TV for years. So many of them died so young. When we lived in LA I came across the grave of Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer, who was shot and killed in an argument over a debt when he was in his early thirties. It's at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery and includes an image of Petey the dog. Darla Hood was the voice of the Chicken of the Sea Mermaid back in the day. My nephew is a stand-up comic who opened for Norm MacDonald several times. He thought the world of him and said he was just so gracious with his time and advice. He also enjoyed working with Tommy Chong and Arsenio Hall. Norm was the best. RIP.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 4, 2024 16:33:33 GMT -5
We 50 percent agree, Inger. Alan King, yes. But Bob Hope I thought was great, both in his movies and in his standup routines. Maybe me being a few years older than you influences that, I don't know, but Bob Hope could make me laugh just walking out on stage. But I do like a lot of those old timers like Jack Benny and Henny Youngman. Even Senor Wences. One old timer I couldn't stomach was Red Skelton. But obviously a lot of people did. To each his own. Bob Hope has a fan in me, at the very least for his "Road to..." movies. I enjoyed him as a kid growing up, as well as Burns and Allen, and in college I discovered Jack Benny re-runs. All it took was a look and that wonderful pause, and I was hooked. My sister told me when I was very little (like three or four), I demanded to watch "Red Skelton" which I pronounced Red Skeleton - I'm sure I wasn't the only one. Love the Road movies -- an early example of breaking the fourth wall if you remember. Also "Son Of Paleface." Yep, Burns and Allen too. What a team. Remember Harry Von Zell as the sidekick. Oh man, Jack Benny. Carson was a big fan and incorporated some of that pause act into his routines. I miss that sort of gentle, self-deprecating humor. Don Wilson as the sidekick. Train for Anaheim, Azusa and Cucamonga arriving on Track Four. Another old-timer I liked was Jimmy Durante. Corny but loveable. One old-timer I never liked was Milton Berle. Never understood his popularity in early TV, other than there just wasn't much else on. Jackie Gleason is another of my favorites from the old school. A tremendous, versatile talent. "The Honeymooners" to me is one of the few comedy shows from the 1950s that still holds up well.
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Post by inger on Mar 4, 2024 16:46:04 GMT -5
Has anyone mentioned Jerry Lewis? I thought his low brow semi-retarded character played well in his early movies, but got old fast. At the end he was just a sad clown hawking his telethon. He was the best reason to NOT watch…
I believe he was the inspiration for Adam Sandler’s early stuff and he grew old in me as well, although he seems to have recognized that and moved on to other characters…
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Post by bomberhojoe on Mar 4, 2024 16:55:08 GMT -5
Outstanding bit from Klein, Bob. I can't believe I forgot to mention him among my favorites. One of the early "thinking-person's" comics, around the same time as Carlin, who I liked from the get-go back to the Al Sleet days. His bitterness did not play well as he got older, which I would also say about Letterman (or even Mark Twain for that matter.) David Steinberg was also in that crew, although I never thought he was at the level of Klein or Carlin. Kudos to you for keeping up with the current flock. I started gradually closing the shutters on popular culture -- comedy, music, movies, TV -- maybe 20 years ago. Not some deliberate strategy, just started losing interest and more of the people I interact with weren't talking about it either. Probably a bad thing, but I don't feel much sense of loss. I too loved the Little Rascals. A staple of Saturday morning TV for years. So many of them died so young. When we lived in LA I came across the grave of Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer, who was shot and killed in an argument over a debt when he was in his early thirties. It's at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery and includes an image of Petey the dog. Darla Hood was the voice of the Chicken of the Sea Mermaid back in the day. My nephew is a stand-up comic who opened for Norm MacDonald several times. He thought the world of him and said he was just so gracious with his time and advice. He also enjoyed working with Tommy Chong and Arsenio Hall. The Little Rascals kids or Our Gang to some, had such tragic lives. I don't recall seeing any of them later in life, with the exception of Jackie Cooper, Robert Blake, and Alfalfa in "It's A Wonderful Life".
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 4, 2024 17:00:44 GMT -5
Outstanding bit from Klein, Bob. I can't believe I forgot to mention him among my favorites. One of the early "thinking-person's" comics, around the same time as Carlin, who I liked from the get-go back to the Al Sleet days. His bitterness did not play well as he got older, which I would also say about Letterman (or even Mark Twain for that matter.) David Steinberg was also in that crew, although I never thought he was at the level of Klein or Carlin. Kudos to you for keeping up with the current flock. I started gradually closing the shutters on popular culture -- comedy, music, movies, TV -- maybe 20 years ago. Not some deliberate strategy, just started losing interest and more of the people I interact with weren't talking about it either. Probably a bad thing, but I don't feel much sense of loss. My nephew is a stand-up comic who opened for Norm MacDonald several times. He thought the world of him and said he was just so gracious with his time and advice. He also enjoyed working with Tommy Chong and Arsenio Hall. Saw Robert Klein at The Troubador in ’75, Carlin a few times at OC Community Colleges…Orange Coast, Golden West…during the same time period, Norm Macdonald & Dana Carvey at local Phoenix comedy clubs. Love Letterman…I think his natural cynicism, which I like, has always shown thru. His show “My Next Guest Needs No Introduction” has had some very interesting interviews. I really miss his late-night show, but Colbert & Kimmel are OK. I love stand-up which is why I’ve kept up.…even tried it a few times myself on open mike nights at The Comedy Works in Denver. Met Roseann Barr there, which is where she got her start. It’s a lot harder than it may look to some, and I was used to performing on stage musically, so no stage fright. But it’s a whole other deal when you’re out there alone trying to get laughs. One area I have definitely not kept up in is music. I stayed fairly current simply by osmosis as my kids were growing up, but that ended in 2000 when the last in the nest flew the coop.
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 4, 2024 17:05:06 GMT -5
Has anyone mentioned Jerry Lewis? I thought his low brow semi-retarded character played well in his early movies, but got old fast. At the end he was just a sad clown hawking his telethon. He was the best reason to NOT watch… He took a lot of heat for that which, as I understand, was the reason he started the telethon. I understand he was a Major League A-Ho in real life.
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Post by inger on Mar 4, 2024 17:14:16 GMT -5
Has anyone mentioned Jerry Lewis? I thought his low brow semi-retarded character played well in his early movies, but got old fast. At the end he was just a sad clown hawking his telethon. He was the best reason to NOT watch… He took a lot of heat for that which, as I understand, was the reason he started the telethon. The worst of all was his horrendous singing. He loved to sing and most certainly wasn’t pleasant to listen to. I recall Johnny Carson saying he had been to Lewis’ home and that he had a full studio in his basement with a set up that we’d call karaoke today. Johnny was encouraged to sing and tried it to the musical accompaniment. He was listening to himself being played back and was quite proud l with his own singing until Lewis cut the music out… 😂 Damned dirty trick to pull on a man…
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 4, 2024 17:17:26 GMT -5
He took a lot of heat for that which, as I understand, was the reason he started the telethon. The worst of all was his horrendous singing. He loved to sing and most certainly wasn’t pleasant to listen to. I recall Johnny Carson saying he had been to Lewis’ home and that he had a full studio in his basement with a set up that we’d call karaoke today. Johnny was encouraged to sing and tried it to the musical accompaniment. He was listening to himself being played back and was quite proud l with his own singing until Lewis cut the music out… 😂 Damned dirty trick to pull on a man… Hey Lady!!!!!!!!
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 4, 2024 17:17:35 GMT -5
Outstanding bit from Klein, Bob. I can't believe I forgot to mention him among my favorites. One of the early "thinking-person's" comics, around the same time as Carlin, who I liked from the get-go back to the Al Sleet days. His bitterness did not play well as he got older, which I would also say about Letterman (or even Mark Twain for that matter.) David Steinberg was also in that crew, although I never thought he was at the level of Klein or Carlin. Kudos to you for keeping up with the current flock. I started gradually closing the shutters on popular culture -- comedy, music, movies, TV -- maybe 20 years ago. Not some deliberate strategy, just started losing interest and more of the people I interact with weren't talking about it either. Probably a bad thing, but I don't feel much sense of loss. I too loved the Little Rascals. A staple of Saturday morning TV for years. So many of them died so young. When we lived in LA I came across the grave of Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer, who was shot and killed in an argument over a debt when he was in his early thirties. It's at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery and includes an image of Petey the dog. Darla Hood was the voice of the Chicken of the Sea Mermaid back in the day. My nephew is a stand-up comic who opened for Norm MacDonald several times. He thought the world of him and said he was just so gracious with his time and advice. He also enjoyed working with Tommy Chong and Arsenio Hall. The Little Rascals kids or Our Gang to some, had such tragic lives. I don't recall seeing any of them later in life, with the exception of Jackie Cooper, Robert Blake, and Alfalfa in "It's A Wonderful Life". Spanky led a relatively long and successful life, albeit not in show business. But you're right, they didn't have a good track record for longevity. The youngest to die was Billy "Froggy" Laughlin, who was only 16 when he crashed his motor scooter into a truck. He had actually replaced Alfalfa, who had grown too old for the series. I always assumed that voice was dubbed in, but I learned later that was actually him doing it. I met Tommy Bond, who played the bully Butch, always fighting off Alfalfa for Darla's affection, through a mutual friend in the late 90s. Super nice guy. He had a fairly successful career working behind the scenes in TV with production crews, mostly in Los Angeles, but he even was involved in production with "Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In." He loved working on the Little Rascals and working with Hal Roach. Roach was responsible for so many classic productions beyond the Rascals -- he directed Laurel and Hardy and Charlie Chase and my personal favorite (and avatar) Harold Lloyd. The studio -- nicknamed The Laugh Factory -- was in Culver City, and you can see Culver City backgrounds in a lot of L&H street scenes. One of my first homages upon moving to LA was to go to that site, although there was nothing to see except a small plaque commemorating the spot. It was just down the street from David O. Selznick Productions, where you could see that famous plantation-style house that was displayed at the start of many of his films, including "Gone With The Wind."
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 4, 2024 17:26:13 GMT -5
Outstanding bit from Klein, Bob. I can't believe I forgot to mention him among my favorites. One of the early "thinking-person's" comics, around the same time as Carlin, who I liked from the get-go back to the Al Sleet days. His bitterness did not play well as he got older, which I would also say about Letterman (or even Mark Twain for that matter.) David Steinberg was also in that crew, although I never thought he was at the level of Klein or Carlin. Kudos to you for keeping up with the current flock. I started gradually closing the shutters on popular culture -- comedy, music, movies, TV -- maybe 20 years ago. Not some deliberate strategy, just started losing interest and more of the people I interact with weren't talking about it either. Probably a bad thing, but I don't feel much sense of loss. My nephew is a stand-up comic who opened for Norm MacDonald several times. He thought the world of him and said he was just so gracious with his time and advice. He also enjoyed working with Tommy Chong and Arsenio Hall. Saw Robert Klein at The Troubador in ’75, Carlin a few times at OC Community Colleges…Orange Coast, Golden West…during the same time period, Norm Macdonald & Dana Carvey at local Phoenix comedy clubs. Love Letterman…I think his natural cynicism, which I like, has always shown thru. His show “My Next Guest Needs No Introduction” has had some very interesting interviews. I really miss his late-night show, but Colbert & Kimmel are OK. I love stand-up which is why I’ve kept up.…even tried it a few times myself on open mike nights at The Comedy Works in Denver. Met Roseann Barr there, which is where she got her start. It’s a lot harder than it may look to some, and I was used to performing on stage musically, so no stage fright. But it’s a whole other deal when you’re out there alone trying to get laughs. One area I have definitely not kept up in is music. I stayed fairly current simply by osmosis as my kids were growing up, but that ended in 2000 when the last in the nest flew the coop. Yep, nothing in show business can be worse than being a comic in a place where nobody is laughing. At least a lousy bar band can keep on playing and not need to worry so much about getting a reaction. You've seen some good ones. One of the best I saw was Seinfeld at a small club in Hermosa Beach called The Comedy and Magic Club. He was brilliant, and it was great to get to see him in a room that only held maybe 75 people. It was very instructive watching the way he handled a few drunks or pushy people trying to get into the act. Swatted them away with ease and moved on. Jay Leno used to try out potential new material at that club every Sunday night. He got on stage with a pile of index cards, and if a joke didn't work he just tossed the card on the floor and moved on. It was amazing to see such a clinical, production line approach to his work. With all of that, he was still very personable and definitely connected with his audience.
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 4, 2024 17:29:03 GMT -5
Spanky led a relatively long and successful life, albeit not in show business. Spanky was from small town Denison, Texas where I lived for a few years when I was a kid, along with "Sully" Sullenberger, who I did not know.
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Post by inger on Mar 4, 2024 17:30:07 GMT -5
The worst of all was his horrendous singing. He loved to sing and most certainly wasn’t pleasant to listen to. I recall Johnny Carson saying he had been to Lewis’ home and that he had a full studio in his basement with a set up that we’d call karaoke today. Johnny was encouraged to sing and tried it to the musical accompaniment. He was listening to himself being played back and was quite proud l with his own singing until Lewis cut the music out… 😂 Damned dirty trick to pull on a man… Hey Lady!!!!!!!! 😂😂
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 4, 2024 17:31:05 GMT -5
Has anyone mentioned Jerry Lewis? I thought his low brow semi-retarded character played well in his early movies, but got old fast. At the end he was just a sad clown hawking his telethon. He was the best reason to NOT watch… He took a lot of heat for that which, as I understand, was the reason he started the telethon. I understand he was a Major League A-Ho in real life. Yep, I think that was the consensus. Not one of the good guys. I remember they used to point to the fact that he was popular in France as proof that the French had no sense of humor. They do, of course, but it tends toward laughing at people who screw up.
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Post by kaybli on Mar 4, 2024 17:55:47 GMT -5
Yes...comedy, like beauty & music, is in the eye and ear of the beholder. I'm a big fan of standup comedy, and Robin Williams did have a few bits that absolutely cracked me up. A few of my favorites today are Brian Regan, Nate Bargatze, Al Madrigal, Mark Maron & Kathleen Madigan. Tom Segura & Bill Burr are a little on the rougher side, as is Doug Stanhope, who lives in the small Southern Arizona town of Bisbee. Loved the late, great Norm Macdonald...saw him a couple of times at local comedy clubs. I was a huge fan of Robert Klein and, speaking of The Little Rascals, this routine still makes me laugh after seeing it many times... www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4U8vYWjpsI&t=10sOutstanding bit from Klein, Bob. I can't believe I forgot to mention him among my favorites. One of the early "thinking-person's" comics, around the same time as Carlin, who I liked from the get-go back to the Al Sleet days. His bitterness did not play well as he got older, which I would also say about Letterman (or even Mark Twain for that matter.) David Steinberg was also in that crew, although I never thought he was at the level of Klein or Carlin. Kudos to you for keeping up with the current flock. I started gradually closing the shutters on popular culture -- comedy, music, movies, TV -- maybe 20 years ago. Not some deliberate strategy, just started losing interest and more of the people I interact with weren't talking about it either. Probably a bad thing, but I don't feel much sense of loss. I too loved the Little Rascals. A staple of Saturday morning TV for years. So many of them died so young. When we lived in LA I came across the grave of Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer, who was shot and killed in an argument over a debt when he was in his early thirties. It's at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery and includes an image of Petey the dog. Darla Hood was the voice of the Chicken of the Sea Mermaid back in the day. My nephew is a stand-up comic who opened for Norm MacDonald several times. He thought the world of him and said he was just so gracious with his time and advice. He also enjoyed working with Tommy Chong and Arsenio Hall. I loved Norm. The ending of this interview was so great:
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 4, 2024 17:58:55 GMT -5
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