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Post by azbob643 on Mar 6, 2024 17:39:15 GMT -5
I have on DVD 1915 Birth of a Nation... ..."the most reprehensibly racist film in Hollywood history".
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 6, 2024 17:41:10 GMT -5
Rocky and Bullwinkle was genius. From Jay Ward Productions, which earlier had done the similar (but not quite as well-developed) "Crusader Rabbit." I never knew about Dudley being banned in Canada. Bill Scott, who did the voice of Bullwinkle, also did Dudley. June Foray, who did Rocky and Natasha, also did Nell Fenwick in those skits. She was a great raconteur who lived well into her nineties. I remember seeing an interview with her where she said she was hired by a very drunk Jay Ward and Bill Scott at one of those proverbial three-martini lunches of blessed memory. Have you ever auditioned for "Jeopardy!" ? Well I think you'd be pretty good at it yourself. People often ask me that, but I am sure I wouldn't have held up under the lights. We took my parents to see tapings of "Jeopardy" in the late 90s at the Sony Studios. They did three episodes in about two hours. Alex Trebek was flawless -- only once did he stop the shoot for some minor muff that nobody in the audience caught. They would break for about ten minutes between episodes to change clothes so it didn't look like they were wearing the same thing. But Alex was very impressive, I must admit.
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 6, 2024 17:44:07 GMT -5
Have you ever auditioned for "Jeopardy!" ? Well I think you'd be pretty good at it yourself. People often ask me that, but I am sure I wouldn't have held up under the lights. We took my parents to see tapings of "Jeopardy" in the late 90s at the Sony Studios. They did three episodes in about two hours. Alex Trebek was flawless -- only once did he stop the shoot for some minor muff that nobody in the audience caught. They would break for about ten minutes between episodes to change clothes so it didn't look like they were wearing the same thing. But Alex was very impressive, I must admit. Meh..on my best nights I'm at maybe 60%-70%, without the pressure contestants must feel. But it's the only network show I watch with regularity.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 6, 2024 17:44:50 GMT -5
Oliver Hardy did indeed have a lilting tenor voice. I love him singing "In The Blue Ridge Mountains Of Virginia" in "Way Out West." That film also had the wonderful soft-shoe with Stan and Ollie dancing to a cowboy band. "Commence To Dancin" might have been the title, they kept repeating that phrase, but it is one of my favorite scenes in any L&H movie. And yes, "A Chump At Oxford" is another good one, where Stan is conked on the head and becomes a genius who Albert Einstein seeks out for advice. What's the one where Ollie suffers a nervous breakdown from working in a horn factory? Also "Block Heads" with the usual domestic Hell for those guys. We've twice been to Hardy's birthplace in Harlem, GA, near Augusta. They have a nice little L&H Museum there and have their likenesses painted on the water tower. Admittedly not a lot to do there; we wound up staying in the town one year when we went to The Masters -- I had no idea it was Ollie's birthplace until then. I almost mentioned "International House" but I didn't think anybody would remember it. Yes, I liked it too. They advertised it as a comedic version of "Grand Hotel" (another of my absolute favorites -- anything with Garbo.) We lived in Washington DC in 81-82 and went to the American Film Institute about three times a week. They had outstanding film festivals, mainly showing old or rare films on the big screen. That's where I first saw "International House." Before the film, Rose Marie, who did a cringe-worthy song in the movie as Baby Rose Marie, spoke to the audience about the film. Unfortunately, she said her own part was recorded separately at the Astoria, Queens studio, so she wasn't really interacting with Fields on the set (although she did work with him on stage.) A lot of risque humor in that movie that never would have made it to the film after the Hays Code came in I think later that year. Some of that stuff would be raunchy even today. Let's just say Fields had a line involving a woman and cat she was sitting on. Another Fields movie, "The Old Fashioned Way", features his amazing juggling skills. As you know he made his reputation early on as a juggler and all-around legerdemain artist and was considered one of the best in the world. My favorite pre-film speaker ever at the AFI was Lillian Gish, who spoke before a screening of "Way Down East." Obviously this crowd of old film buffs was pre-disposed to love her anyway, but she had a beatific presence and the audience was in rapt attention. Anyone watched silent movies? I have on DVD 1915 Birth of a Nation and 1921 Orphans of the Storm with Lillian Gish. Occasionally see them on AMC. I love silent movies. One of the reasons I have Harold Lloyd for my avatar. Douglas Fairbanks, Mary Pickford, Rudolph Valentino, Clara Bow, William S. Hart, the great comics Chaplin, Keaton and Lloyd. And before them Fatty Arbuckle and The Keystone Cops, which are still very funny to watch.
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Post by laurenfrances on Mar 6, 2024 17:46:18 GMT -5
I have on DVD 1915 Birth of a Nation... ..."the most reprehensibly racist film in Hollywood history". Indeed reprehensible and it's part of the film history stamped in time. Unbelievable that it was acceptable in the film industry.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 6, 2024 17:47:58 GMT -5
I have on DVD 1915 Birth of a Nation... ..."the most reprehensibly racist film in Hollywood history". Yeah, I guess any movie where the Ku Klux Klan are the good guys has some problems. But Griffith, who was indisputably a great film-maker, followed it up as supposed atonement with "Intolerance," which is a stunning visual achievement for the infancy of feature films.
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Post by laurenfrances on Mar 6, 2024 17:53:12 GMT -5
..."the most reprehensibly racist film in Hollywood history". Yeah, I guess any movie where the Ku Klux Klan are the good guys has some problems. But Griffith, who was indisputably a great film-maker, followed it up as supposed atonement with "Intolerance," which is a stunning visual achievement for the infancy of feature films. I saw Griffith's film was available to purchase ( also have Intolerance). As reprehensible as it is, I had to watch them to see how KKK was acceptable in main stream America.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 6, 2024 18:00:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess any movie where the Ku Klux Klan are the good guys has some problems. But Griffith, who was indisputably a great film-maker, followed it up as supposed atonement with "Intolerance," which is a stunning visual achievement for the infancy of feature films. I saw Griffith's film was available to purchase ( also have Intolerance). As reprehensible as it is, I had to watch them to see how KKK was acceptable in main stream America. "Birth Of A Nation" was considered controversial even 110 years ago. In fact it ignited some riots. My guess is that there are films being made today that will be considered appalling a century from now. I can't guess what they are, but you can be sure they will be there.
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Post by bomberhojoe on Mar 6, 2024 18:19:00 GMT -5
It was actually, Zacherley the Cool Ghoul. I also recall midnight wrestling on Saturdey on WOR-9, with Gorilla Monsoon, Bobo Brazil, and the Great Bruno Samartino. Hah, Bobo Brazil was maybe the first wrestler to supposedly be from "Parts Unknown." And Gorilla Monsoon from Willingboro New Jersey was allegedly discovered walking naked through a river in Manchuria and brought back to the US. Haystacks Calhoun was also from that generation of wrestlers, and just a bit later Chief Jay Strongbow came on the scene. Great entertainment. My high school used to host pro wrestling in our gym several times a year. I met many of the WWF guys after my practice or a game, in the locker room. They were mostly really cool guys. I recall meeting the wild Samoans who supposedly didn't speak English. HA!! They spoke better than me. And George the Animal Steele who only grunted and growled, was actually a former English teacher.
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Post by bigjeep on Mar 6, 2024 18:25:13 GMT -5
Before WPIX-TV would become a full-time station in the late 1950's, they would share NYC Educational Channel programming in the morning until 3PM. They would come on at 3PM, with Oliver and Hardy movies, then have their regular kids programming start afterwards. I love watching their movies. Also, I enjoyed watching the Marx Brothers, W.C. Fields, Abbott and Costello comedy films. WNEW-TV, channel 5 would show the East Side Kids movies on Saturdays. During the week they had excellent kids shows, hight lighted by Sandy Becker show. Those WC Fields movies are classics. My favorite WC Fields movie is "It's a Gift." Yep, if I remember correctly channel 5 would have a horror movie or 2 on in the AM, but in the afternoon they would show The East Side Kids/The Dead End Kids/The Bowery Boys movies. 1 of my favorite movies is "Crime School" with Humphrey Bogart and The Dead End Kids/East Side Kids/Bowery Boys. Aso "The bank dick" and "Never give a sucker an even break"! "My little chickadee" One classic line! "Heard you had to bury your wife a few years back? W. C. Fields " I had too, she was dead"
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 6, 2024 19:46:10 GMT -5
Have you ever auditioned for "Jeopardy!" ? Well I think you'd be pretty good at it yourself. People often ask me that, but I am sure I wouldn't have held up under the lights. We took my parents to see tapings of "Jeopardy" in the late 90s at the Sony Studios. They did three episodes in about two hours. Alex Trebek was flawless -- only once did he stop the shoot for some minor muff that nobody in the audience caught. They would break for about ten minutes between episodes to change clothes so it didn't look like they were wearing the same thing. But Alex was very impressive, I must admit. Alex Trabek was fantastic; however, my older brother preferred Art Fleming.
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Post by bomberhojoe on Mar 6, 2024 19:51:44 GMT -5
Rocky and Bullwinkle was genius. From Jay Ward Productions, which earlier had done the similar (but not quite as well-developed) "Crusader Rabbit." I never knew about Dudley being banned in Canada. Bill Scott, who did the voice of Bullwinkle, also did Dudley. June Foray, who did Rocky and Natasha, also did Nell Fenwick in those skits. She was a great raconteur who lived well into her nineties. I remember seeing an interview with her where she said she was hired by a very drunk Jay Ward and Bill Scott at one of those proverbial three-martini lunches of blessed memory. Have you ever auditioned for "Jeopardy!" ? My wife and I used to watch Jeopardy and she would say that I should go on, because I knew all the answers. But I explained that I only answered those I knew, so I was seldom wrong. If I went on I would get categories like "Shakespeare ", "Russian History", and "Botany" and I would remain very silent.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 6, 2024 20:00:21 GMT -5
Not sure if it's been discussed but I was a big fan of the Bob Newhart shows. Both the show based in Chicago and Vermont. Really good supporting casts. 55, I am with you on Newhart! He was so understated, but very funny. I am just finishing up rewatching "Newhart". Hi, I'm Larry, this is my brother Darryl and my other brother Darryl. Another vote for Newhart here. I saw a lot more of the Chicago-version than the Vermont-version (although the ending to that has to be one of the all-time inspired moments for TV.) I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember when he was primarily known for his routine with the one-side telephone conversation or his comedy albums, but he was a pretty big star even before his sitcoms. I agree he had great supporting casts on both of them. I especially liked the under-rated comedic talent of Bill Daily, who as Howard Borden was essentially playing the same role he did as Roger Healey on "I Dream Of Jeannie." Newhart is still living and will turn 95 in September. From Oak Park, Illinois, which among other people has given us Frank Lloyd Wright, Ernest Hemingway, Dan Castellaneta, Betty White, Hannah Storm and Ray Kroc.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 6, 2024 20:07:14 GMT -5
Well I think you'd be pretty good at it yourself. People often ask me that, but I am sure I wouldn't have held up under the lights. We took my parents to see tapings of "Jeopardy" in the late 90s at the Sony Studios. They did three episodes in about two hours. Alex Trebek was flawless -- only once did he stop the shoot for some minor muff that nobody in the audience caught. They would break for about ten minutes between episodes to change clothes so it didn't look like they were wearing the same thing. But Alex was very impressive, I must admit. Alex Trabek was fantastic; however, my older brother preferred Art Fleming. Fleming was very good, I agree. More of an intellectual than Alex. I do think Trebek connected more with the audience. The show I liked even more was "GE College Bowl." There was some serious intellectual wattage on that one, not much fooling around with pop culture. Of course, that's why it was on Sunday afternoons while "Jeopardy" was five nights a week.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 6, 2024 20:08:48 GMT -5
Have you ever auditioned for "Jeopardy!" ? My wife and I used to watch Jeopardy and she would say that I should go on, because I knew all the answers. But I explained that I only answered those I knew, so I was seldom wrong. If I went on I would get categories like "Shakespeare ", "Russian History", and "Botany" and I would remain very silent. Haha, I know the feeling. Only swing at pitches in your sweet spot.
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