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Post by bomberhojoe on Mar 6, 2024 21:22:30 GMT -5
55, I am with you on Newhart! He was so understated, but very funny. I am just finishing up rewatching "Newhart". Hi, I'm Larry, this is my brother Darryl and my other brother Darryl. Another vote for Newhart here. I saw a lot more of the Chicago-version than the Vermont-version (although the ending to that has to be one of the all-time inspired moments for TV.) I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember when he was primarily known for his routine with the one-side telephone conversation or his comedy albums, but he was a pretty big star even before his sitcoms. I agree he had great supporting casts on both of them. I especially liked the under-rated comedic talent of Bill Daily, who as Howard Borden was essentially playing the same role he did as Roger Healey on "I Dream Of Jeannie." Newhart is still living and will turn 95 in September. From Oak Park, Illinois, which among other people has given us Frank Lloyd Wright, Ernest Hemingway, Dan Castellaneta, Betty White, Hannah Storm and Ray Kroc. He used the one-sided telephone conversation routine in both of his shows in many episodes. He was very good at that. |
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2024 22:23:27 GMT -5
Another vote for Newhart here. I saw a lot more of the Chicago-version than the Vermont-version (although the ending to that has to be one of the all-time inspired moments for TV.) I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember when he was primarily known for his routine with the one-side telephone conversation or his comedy albums, but he was a pretty big star even before his sitcoms. I agree he had great supporting casts on both of them. I especially liked the under-rated comedic talent of Bill Daily, who as Howard Borden was essentially playing the same role he did as Roger Healey on "I Dream Of Jeannie." Newhart is still living and will turn 95 in September. From Oak Park, Illinois, which among other people has given us Frank Lloyd Wright, Ernest Hemingway, Dan Castellaneta, Betty White, Hannah Storm and Ray Kroc. He used the one-sided telephone conversation routine in both of his shows in many episodes. He was very good at that. Pretty much built his early career on one sided conversations… |
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Post by bomberhojoe on Mar 6, 2024 23:19:08 GMT -5
He used the one-sided telephone conversation routine in both of his shows in many episodes. He was very good at that. Pretty much built his early career on one sided conversations… I have quite a few of those myself. |
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Post by desousa on Mar 7, 2024 8:55:40 GMT -5
55, I am with you on Newhart! He was so understated, but very funny. I am just finishing up rewatching "Newhart". Hi, I'm Larry, this is my brother Darryl and my other brother Darryl. Another vote for Newhart here. I saw a lot more of the Chicago-version than the Vermont-version (although the ending to that has to be one of the all-time inspired moments for TV.) I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember when he was primarily known for his routine with the one-side telephone conversation or his comedy albums, but he was a pretty big star even before his sitcoms. I agree he had great supporting casts on both of them. I especially liked the under-rated comedic talent of Bill Daily, who as Howard Borden was essentially playing the same role he did as Roger Healey on "I Dream Of Jeannie." Newhart is still living and will turn 95 in September. From Oak Park, Illinois, which among other people has given us Frank Lloyd Wright, Ernest Hemingway, Dan Castellaneta, Betty White, Hannah Storm and Ray Kroc. Even though I was born in Vermont, I agree the Chicago based Newhart was better. The latter would have been better if one of the local yokels had a real Vermont accent. Of course, most of America would have a hard time understanding what was being said. By the way, I had twin uncles named Darryl and Dale. Bill Daley was hysterical as Howard Borden. He had a brother named Gordon Borden who was a game warden in Jordan. Tom Poston was equally funny on the second Newhart. In real life, he was married to Suzanne Pleshette who played Bob's wife on the first show. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Mar 7, 2024 11:15:46 GMT -5
..."the most reprehensibly racist film in Hollywood history". Indeed reprehensible and it's part of the film history stamped in time. Unbelievable that it was acceptable in the film industry. I read Timothy Egan's book "A Fever in the Heartland" and was pretty surprised at how mainstream the KKK was in the 20's and into the 30's particularly in the midlands. They marched in small town parades, held rallys where they often got thousands of attendees and Presidential candidates sought their endorsement. |
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 7, 2024 11:21:02 GMT -5
Indeed reprehensible and it's part of the film history stamped in time. Unbelievable that it was acceptable in the film industry. I read Timothy Egan's book "A Fever in the Heartland" and was pretty surprised at how mainstream the KKK was in the 20's and into the 30's particularly in the midlands. They marched in small town parades, held rallys where they often got thousands of attendees and Presidential candidates sought their endorsement. I lived in the pre-Civil Rights Act segregated South for several years when I was a kid in the 50's. The KKK was prominent in town and, as you said, marched in parades. |
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Post by Max on Mar 7, 2024 11:38:16 GMT -5
I remember "The Million Dollar Movie" on WOR (Channel 9) during weeknights, but I'm pretty sure on Saturday night that Zachary was on Channel 11 (WPIX) "Chiller Theater." On Saturday night I also remember WOR having "Fright Night", while WNEW (Channel 5) would have "Creature Feature." Zach's show ran on WOR-TV from 1959-1960. The he had Chiller Theater on WPIX-TV from 1961 to 1965. Chiller Theater was initiated by WPIX-TV during 1961. Beginning 1963, its host was John Zacherle ("The Cool Ghoul"), who quit during 1965 season.
Clipper, you're right. I spoke to an older relative of mine that I know was a fan of the show. Coincidentally, Zacherle name came up. I asked if he remembered if Zacherle's show was on Channel 9. Like me, the same relative watches "Svengoolie" on METV from time to time when he's showing a movie that I might like.
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Post by Max on Mar 7, 2024 11:57:26 GMT -5
Hardy had a nice singing voice. "Way out West" is my favorite Laurel and Hardy movie. "A Chump at Oxford" is another classic. "It's a Gift" had a lot of funny scenes. Mr. Muckle and the light bulbs! LOL! The Carl LaFong scene was very funny. Mrs. Bissonette was very annoyingly funny.
Have you ever seen the movie "International House"? A lot of stars in that movie including WC Fields, Bela Lugosi. In my opinion, it's a very funny movie. Cab Calloway sings a song in that movie called the "Reefer Man". I remember thinking..Wow, they allowed that song to be in the movie in the 1930's? I thought the rules were so strict back then?
Oliver Hardy did indeed have a lilting tenor voice. I love him singing "In The Blue Ridge Mountains Of Virginia" in "Way Out West." That film also had the wonderful soft-shoe with Stan and Ollie dancing to a cowboy band. "Commence To Dancin" might have been the title, they kept repeating that phrase, but it is one of my favorite scenes in any L&H movie. And yes, "A Chump At Oxford" is another good one, where Stan is conked on the head and becomes a genius who Albert Einstein seeks out for advice. What's the one where Ollie suffers a nervous breakdown from working in a horn factory? Also "Block Heads" with the usual domestic Hell for those guys. We've twice been to Hardy's birthplace in Harlem, GA, near Augusta. They have a nice little L&H Museum there and have their likenesses painted on the water tower. Admittedly not a lot to do there; we wound up staying in the town one year when we went to The Masters -- I had no idea it was Ollie's birthplace until then. I almost mentioned "International House" but I didn't think anybody would remember it. Yes, I liked it too. They advertised it as a comedic version of "Grand Hotel" (another of my absolute favorites -- anything with Garbo.) We lived in Washington DC in 81-82 and went to the American Film Institute about three times a week. They had outstanding film festivals, mainly showing old or rare films on the big screen. That's where I first saw "International House." Before the film, Rose Marie, who did a cringe-worthy song in the movie as Baby Rose Marie, spoke to the audience about the film. Unfortunately, she said her own part was recorded separately at the Astoria, Queens studio, so she wasn't really interacting with Fields on the set (although she did work with him on stage.) A lot of risque humor in that movie that never would have made it to the film after the Hays Code came in I think later that year. Some of that stuff would be raunchy even today. Let's just say Fields had a line involving a woman and cat she was sitting on. Another Fields movie, "The Old Fashioned Way", features his amazing juggling skills. As you know he made his reputation early on as a juggler and all-around legerdemain artist and was considered one of the best in the world. My favorite pre-film speaker ever at the AFI was Lillian Gish, who spoke before a screening of "Way Down East." Obviously this crowd of old film buffs was pre-disposed to love her anyway, but she had a beatific presence and the audience was in rapt attention.
Ollie suffers a nervous breakdown in the movie "Saps at Sea." When I joined this message board in my first post I was going to say "Is this Kansas City, Kansas or Kansas City, Missouri?" But I wasn't sure if anyone would get the "International House" reference. I know the WC line that was banned, but if I remember correctly it wasn't banned when I saw that movie. As with the movie 'Frankenstein" when the Monster first moved his hand, there was a line that Dr. Frankenstein said that was banned. But sometimes when I watch that movie I hear that line, but other times I don't.
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Post by Max on Mar 7, 2024 12:08:56 GMT -5
Anyone watched silent movies?
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Post by inger on Mar 7, 2024 13:05:32 GMT -5
I read Timothy Egan's book "A Fever in the Heartland" and was pretty surprised at how mainstream the KKK was in the 20's and into the 30's particularly in the midlands. They marched in small town parades, held rallys where they often got thousands of attendees and Presidential candidates sought their endorsement. I lived in the pre-Civil Rights Act segregated South for several years when I was a kid in the 50's. The KKK was prominent in town and, as you said, marched in parades. We saw an annual cross-burning in my home town of Rising Sun in Cecil County, MD. I think continued well into the seventies, perhaps even the eighties. We never had a parade, though they liked to ride through town in convertibles with the top down. The sad thing is that there were only a few black families in town and they were extremely nice, very clean people. I know about the cleanliness because I made several deliveries to their homes. Since I worked in town certain individuals woukd always invite me to the “party”, but I always declined. We had one black furniture delivery guy that would cling to my side in town, considering me his protection… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 7, 2024 13:20:34 GMT -5
Another vote for Newhart here. I saw a lot more of the Chicago-version than the Vermont-version (although the ending to that has to be one of the all-time inspired moments for TV.) I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember when he was primarily known for his routine with the one-side telephone conversation or his comedy albums, but he was a pretty big star even before his sitcoms. I agree he had great supporting casts on both of them. I especially liked the under-rated comedic talent of Bill Daily, who as Howard Borden was essentially playing the same role he did as Roger Healey on "I Dream Of Jeannie." Newhart is still living and will turn 95 in September. From Oak Park, Illinois, which among other people has given us Frank Lloyd Wright, Ernest Hemingway, Dan Castellaneta, Betty White, Hannah Storm and Ray Kroc. Even though I was born in Vermont, I agree the Chicago based Newhart was better. The latter would have been better if one of the local yokels had a real Vermont accent. Of course, most of America would have a hard time understanding what was being said. By the way, I had twin uncles named Darryl and Dale. Bill Daley was hysterical as Howard Borden. He had a brother named Gordon Borden who was a game warden in Jordan. Tom Poston was equally funny on the second Newhart. In real life, he was married to Suzanne Pleshette who played Bob's wife on the first show. I had no idea Tom Poston had married Suzanne Pleshette. Who I thought was perfectly cast as Emily in the first Newhart show. How could I have not mentioned Tom Poston? Obviously he was key in the Vermont show, but he was great as Bob's old college roommate "The Peeper" in the Chicago show. The Peeper and The Mooner (Bob) performing "Sonny Boy." Oh man, it wasn't hard to identify with some goofy inside joke with a best friend from college. And Warden Gordon Bordon from Jordan. Good recall. Wasn't there another where to impress a date Howard had himself paged in a restaurant for an emergency that only he could handle? The group therapy sessions were a riot too -- especially the cynical Mr. Carlin (Jack Riley.) Also an old Florida Freibus -- previously Winnie, the mother of Dobie Gillis. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 7, 2024 13:34:38 GMT -5
Oliver Hardy did indeed have a lilting tenor voice. I love him singing "In The Blue Ridge Mountains Of Virginia" in "Way Out West." That film also had the wonderful soft-shoe with Stan and Ollie dancing to a cowboy band. "Commence To Dancin" might have been the title, they kept repeating that phrase, but it is one of my favorite scenes in any L&H movie. And yes, "A Chump At Oxford" is another good one, where Stan is conked on the head and becomes a genius who Albert Einstein seeks out for advice. What's the one where Ollie suffers a nervous breakdown from working in a horn factory? Also "Block Heads" with the usual domestic Hell for those guys. We've twice been to Hardy's birthplace in Harlem, GA, near Augusta. They have a nice little L&H Museum there and have their likenesses painted on the water tower. Admittedly not a lot to do there; we wound up staying in the town one year when we went to The Masters -- I had no idea it was Ollie's birthplace until then. I almost mentioned "International House" but I didn't think anybody would remember it. Yes, I liked it too. They advertised it as a comedic version of "Grand Hotel" (another of my absolute favorites -- anything with Garbo.) We lived in Washington DC in 81-82 and went to the American Film Institute about three times a week. They had outstanding film festivals, mainly showing old or rare films on the big screen. That's where I first saw "International House." Before the film, Rose Marie, who did a cringe-worthy song in the movie as Baby Rose Marie, spoke to the audience about the film. Unfortunately, she said her own part was recorded separately at the Astoria, Queens studio, so she wasn't really interacting with Fields on the set (although she did work with him on stage.) A lot of risque humor in that movie that never would have made it to the film after the Hays Code came in I think later that year. Some of that stuff would be raunchy even today. Let's just say Fields had a line involving a woman and cat she was sitting on. Another Fields movie, "The Old Fashioned Way", features his amazing juggling skills. As you know he made his reputation early on as a juggler and all-around legerdemain artist and was considered one of the best in the world. My favorite pre-film speaker ever at the AFI was Lillian Gish, who spoke before a screening of "Way Down East." Obviously this crowd of old film buffs was pre-disposed to love her anyway, but she had a beatific presence and the audience was in rapt attention.
Ollie suffers a nervous breakdown in the movie "Saps at Sea." When I joined this message board in my first post I was going to say "Is this Kansas City, Kansas or Kansas City, Missouri?" But I wasn't sure if anyone would get the "International House" reference. I know the WC line that was banned, but if I remember correctly it wasn't banned when I saw that movie. As with the movie 'Frankenstein" when the Monster first moved his hand, there was a line that Dr. Frankenstein said that was banned. But sometimes when I watch that movie I hear that line, but other times I don't.
Thank you for "Saps At Sea." Another pretty good one was "Beau Hunks" where the boys join the French Foreign Legion (as they would do again in "Flying Deuces" with the unbilled "appearance" via photographs of Jean Harlow (Jeannie Weenie.) I didn't like the operetta business quite as much, although "Babes In Toyland" has proven to be very durable around Thanksgiving. Not a fan of "Swiss Miss" or "Bohemian Girl" or for that matter their later output from the 40s, when they had run out of ideas. My two favorite shorts were "Big Business" and "The Music Box," both recognized as classics by film critics. When we lived in LA we visited that stairway where L&H tried to move the piano. It's still a public walkway in the Silver Lake area and looks pretty much the same as in the movie. The stairway where the Three Stooges carried the block of ice is also in Silver Lake, not far from the L&H site. Stan and Ollie had a good supporting cast too, especially their long-time foil, mustachioed squinting Jimmy Finlayson. Mae Busch was perfect as a truly unbearable wife, usually to Ollie if memory serves. I think those lines from "International House" and "Frankenstein" were restored many years later. Occasionally they show the restored part of "King Kong" where Kong goes a bit too far probing Fay Wray. |
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Post by Max on Mar 7, 2024 16:06:44 GMT -5
Ollie suffers a nervous breakdown in the movie "Saps at Sea." When I joined this message board in my first post I was going to say "Is this Kansas City, Kansas or Kansas City, Missouri?" But I wasn't sure if anyone would get the "International House" reference. I know the WC line that was banned, but if I remember correctly it wasn't banned when I saw that movie. As with the movie 'Frankenstein" when the Monster first moved his hand, there was a line that Dr. Frankenstein said that was banned. But sometimes when I watch that movie I hear that line, but other times I don't.
Thank you for "Saps At Sea." Another pretty good one was "Beau Hunks" where the boys join the French Foreign Legion (as they would do again in "Flying Deuces" with the unbilled "appearance" via photographs of Jean Harlow (Jeannie Weenie.) I didn't like the operetta business quite as much, although "Babes In Toyland" has proven to be very durable around Thanksgiving. Not a fan of "Swiss Miss" or "Bohemian Girl" or for that matter their later output from the 40s, when they had run out of ideas. My two favorite shorts were "Big Business" and "The Music Box," both recognized as classics by film critics. When we lived in LA we visited that stairway where L&H tried to move the piano. It's still a public walkway in the Silver Lake area and looks pretty much the same as in the movie. The stairway where the Three Stooges carried the block of ice is also in Silver Lake, not far from the L&H site. Stan and Ollie had a good supporting cast too, especially their long-time foil, mustachioed squinting Jimmy Finlayson. Mae Busch was perfect as a truly unbearable wife, usually to Ollie if memory serves. I think those lines from "International House" and "Frankenstein" were restored many years later. Occasionally they show the restored part of "King Kong" where Kong goes a bit too far probing Fay Wray. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. "Flying Deuces" is another favorite Laurel and Hardy movie, one of my favorite parts of that movie is when Ollie sings "Shine on Harvest Moon." |
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Post by Max on Mar 7, 2024 16:11:19 GMT -5
Anyone remember the late night show "Reel Camp"?
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Post by fwclipper51 on Mar 7, 2024 16:11:47 GMT -5
Anyone watched silent movies?
Yep, my Dad was a Charlie Chaplin fan. Stan Laurel was Charlie's stand-in in England. Later, Stan would become good friends with Dick VanDyk, he taught him the famous Chapin walk. Dick and Chuck McCann would do skits as Laurel and Hardy on TV. They were part of the Sons of the Sarhara, a group Hollywood actors fans who were loyal Laurel and Hardy fans. In 1957, before Oliver's fatal heart attack, Stan and Ollie were making a deal with NBC-TV for a hour long weekly comedy show. I enjoy Buster Keaton, The Keystone cops and Harold Lloyd films. |
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