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Post by Max on Nov 16, 2024 13:50:03 GMT -5
It was a sanctioned boxing match, different gloves were used too. From time to time there are tweaks in every sport. I remember when Boxing matches were 15 rounds and 8 ounce gloves were used. But this was negotiated because one of the fighters didn't have the stamina to go 3 minutes or more than 8 rounds which was pretty evidenced by his perfomance. This fight was all about the money. I like boxing but didn't watch it because IMO it was clearly a stunt. In my opinion, Tyson won the first 2 rounds. To each their own, but I don't view it as a stunt because real punches were thrown by trained professionals. |
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Post by inger on Nov 16, 2024 14:14:53 GMT -5
An Internet meme is now suggesting that Paul has challenged 100-year old Jimmy Carter for his next opponent…😂
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Nov 16, 2024 14:52:36 GMT -5
An Internet meme is now suggesting that Paul has challenged 100-year old Jimmy Carter for his next opponent…😂 There will only be 3 rounds, each lasting 30 seconds. |
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Post by Max on Nov 16, 2024 16:14:13 GMT -5
I watched some old time fights on film as far back as the 1940's. But, until last night the best Boxing match I ever seen was Hagler vs Hearns.
But last night the Taylor vs Serrano fight became the best Boxing match that I ever watched. Those two ladies are great Boxers, and went toe to toe. I didn't agree with the decision, but that fight is a classic.
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 16, 2024 16:22:59 GMT -5
An Internet meme is now suggesting that Paul has challenged 100-year old Jimmy Carter for his next opponent…😂 Paul's camp got paid around 40 million for that nonsense. Who's paying all this money out? |
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Post by inger on Nov 16, 2024 16:34:54 GMT -5
An Internet meme is now suggesting that Paul has challenged 100-year old Jimmy Carter for his next opponent…😂 Paul's camp got paid around 40 million for that nonsense.  Who's paying all this money out? You. If you paid to watch it. Of course a whole bunch of yous… |
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Post by Max on Nov 17, 2024 11:05:57 GMT -5
Paul's camp got paid around 40 million for that nonsense. Who's paying all this money out? You. If you paid to watch it. Of course a whole bunch of yous… I have seen poor Boxing matches without either Boxer being way past their prime. That fight card had some pretty good match ups. |
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Post by Renfield on Nov 17, 2024 21:52:21 GMT -5
Years ago, a group of us decided to pony up for a pay-per-view of Michael Spinks v. Mike Tyson--promised to be a great fight. I think Spinks was undefeated at the time. 30 seconds in, Tyson buckled Spinks' knees. An audible groan from those of us watching. 60 seconds later, the fight was over. Have never paid for another such event since. At least the guy who hosted it had cold beer in the fridge.
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 18, 2024 14:54:43 GMT -5
Years ago, a group of us decided to pony up for a pay-per-view of Michael Spinks v. Mike Tyson--promised to be a great fight. I think Spinks was undefeated at the time. 30 seconds in, Tyson buckled Spinks' knees. An audible groan from those of us watching. 60 seconds later, the fight was over. Have never paid for another such event since. At least the guy who hosted it had cold beer in the fridge. I was part of a Syndicate Of Fools who paid to watch the Mike Tyson -- Peter McNeely bout on Showtime in 1995. We also got about 1:30 of the first round before McNeely staggered off. At least Spinks was a legitimate fighter. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 18, 2024 15:14:51 GMT -5
I watched some old time fights on film as far back as the 1940's. But, until last night the best Boxing match I ever seen was Hagler vs Hearns. But last night the Taylor vs Serrano fight became the best Boxing match that I ever watched. Those two ladies are great Boxers, and went toe to toe. I didn't agree with the decision, but that fight is a classic. That Hagler-Hearns fight had more action in eight minutes than almost any 15-round bout. Breathtaking from the opening bell. Maybe the only first round to compare was the 1923 heavyweight championship fight between Jack Dempsey and Luis Firpo, "The Wild Bull Of The Pampas." Dempsey knocked Firpo down seven times, but Luis fought back and knocked The Manassa Mauler completely out of the ring and into the sportswriters' section. Dempsey knocked down Firpo twice more early in the second round and that was it. You can see it on YouTube. In fact you can see fights going back to the 1897 championship mill between Gentlemen Jim Corbett and Ruby Bob Fitzsimmons. Fascinating stuff to watch. I don't know if you recall a non-title fight in the mid-70s between George Foreman and Ron Lyle. It was on Wide World Of Sports. I don't know if there has ever been such non-stop slugging in a heavyweight fight in history. It was like watching a couple of enraged bouncers going at it with everything they had. No strategy, just flat-out wailing rock 'em sock 'em robots. Only five rounds, but nobody wanted their money back. |
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Post by Max on Nov 19, 2024 14:03:02 GMT -5
I watched some old time fights on film as far back as the 1940's. But, until last night the best Boxing match I ever seen was Hagler vs Hearns. But last night the Taylor vs Serrano fight became the best Boxing match that I ever watched. Those two ladies are great Boxers, and went toe to toe. I didn't agree with the decision, but that fight is a classic. That Hagler-Hearns fight had more action in eight minutes than almost any 15-round bout. Breathtaking from the opening bell. Maybe the only first round to compare was the 1923 heavyweight championship fight between Jack Dempsey and Luis Firpo, "The Wild Bull Of The Pampas." Dempsey knocked Firpo down seven times, but Luis fought back and knocked The Manassa Mauler completely out of the ring and into the sportswriters' section. Dempsey knocked down Firpo twice more early in the second round and that was it. You can see it on YouTube. In fact you can see fights going back to the 1897 championship mill between Gentlemen Jim Corbett and Ruby Bob Fitzsimmons. Fascinating stuff to watch. I don't know if you recall a non-title fight in the mid-70s between George Foreman and Ron Lyle. It was on Wide World Of Sports. I don't know if there has ever been such non-stop slugging in a heavyweight fight in history. It was like watching a couple of enraged bouncers going at it with everything they had. No strategy, just flat-out wailing rock 'em sock 'em robots. Only five rounds, but nobody wanted their money back. Yes, I remember the Foreman/Lyle fight. I also remember watching the Jimmy Young/Foreman fight with a friend. In a lesson on don't judge a book by it's cover, seeing the two Boxers in the ring, my friend and me agreed that Foreman was absolutely going to dominate that fight and knockout Jimmy Young. We both felt sorry for Jimmy Young and decided to root for him. Well, Jimmy Young won the fight and it looked like he came close to knocking-out Foreman. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Nov 19, 2024 14:37:20 GMT -5
That Hagler-Hearns fight had more action in eight minutes than almost any 15-round bout. Breathtaking from the opening bell. Maybe the only first round to compare was the 1923 heavyweight championship fight between Jack Dempsey and Luis Firpo, "The Wild Bull Of The Pampas." Dempsey knocked Firpo down seven times, but Luis fought back and knocked The Manassa Mauler completely out of the ring and into the sportswriters' section. Dempsey knocked down Firpo twice more early in the second round and that was it. You can see it on YouTube. In fact you can see fights going back to the 1897 championship mill between Gentlemen Jim Corbett and Ruby Bob Fitzsimmons. Fascinating stuff to watch. I don't know if you recall a non-title fight in the mid-70s between George Foreman and Ron Lyle. It was on Wide World Of Sports. I don't know if there has ever been such non-stop slugging in a heavyweight fight in history. It was like watching a couple of enraged bouncers going at it with everything they had. No strategy, just flat-out wailing rock 'em sock 'em robots. Only five rounds, but nobody wanted their money back. Yes, I remember the Foreman/Lyle fight. I also remember watching the Jimmy Young/Foreman fight with a friend. In a lesson on don't judge a book by it's cover, seeing the two Boxers in the ring, my friend and me agreed that Foreman was absolutely going to dominate that fight and knockout Jimmy Young. We both felt sorry for Jimmy Young and decided to root for him. Well, Jimmy Young won the fight and it looked like he came close to knocking-out Foreman. I thought the Ali vs. Fraizer trilogy lived up to the hype and were the best fights I've ever seen, particularly 1 and 3. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 19, 2024 19:56:51 GMT -5
That Hagler-Hearns fight had more action in eight minutes than almost any 15-round bout. Breathtaking from the opening bell. Maybe the only first round to compare was the 1923 heavyweight championship fight between Jack Dempsey and Luis Firpo, "The Wild Bull Of The Pampas." Dempsey knocked Firpo down seven times, but Luis fought back and knocked The Manassa Mauler completely out of the ring and into the sportswriters' section. Dempsey knocked down Firpo twice more early in the second round and that was it. You can see it on YouTube. In fact you can see fights going back to the 1897 championship mill between Gentlemen Jim Corbett and Ruby Bob Fitzsimmons. Fascinating stuff to watch. I don't know if you recall a non-title fight in the mid-70s between George Foreman and Ron Lyle. It was on Wide World Of Sports. I don't know if there has ever been such non-stop slugging in a heavyweight fight in history. It was like watching a couple of enraged bouncers going at it with everything they had. No strategy, just flat-out wailing rock 'em sock 'em robots. Only five rounds, but nobody wanted their money back. Yes, I remember the Foreman/Lyle fight. I also remember watching the Jimmy Young/Foreman fight with a friend. In a lesson on don't judge a book by it's cover, seeing the two Boxers in the ring, my friend and me agreed that Foreman was absolutely going to dominate that fight and knockout Jimmy Young. We both felt sorry for Jimmy Young and decided to root for him. Well, Jimmy Young won the fight and it looked like he came close to knocking-out Foreman. Hey Max, glad you remember those guys. Jimmy Young was one of my Philly pugilists I used to follow (along with his cousin, middleweight contender Bobby "Boogaloo" Watts.) He wasn't the smoothest fighter out there, but he managed to get tantalizingly close to the top. In addition to the Foreman bout, he narrowly lost decisions to Muhammad Ali and Ken Norton. Both of those fights could easily have been decided the other way. Cousin Boogaloo defeated Marvin Hagler early in Marvin's career in another controversial decision at The Spectrum in Philly. Probably some home cooking involved in that one. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 19, 2024 20:20:28 GMT -5
Yes, I remember the Foreman/Lyle fight. I also remember watching the Jimmy Young/Foreman fight with a friend. In a lesson on don't judge a book by it's cover, seeing the two Boxers in the ring, my friend and me agreed that Foreman was absolutely going to dominate that fight and knockout Jimmy Young. We both felt sorry for Jimmy Young and decided to root for him. Well, Jimmy Young won the fight and it looked like he came close to knocking-out Foreman. I thought the Ali vs. Fraizer trilogy lived up to the hype and were the best fights I've ever seen, particularly 1 and 3. Oh for sure, the three Ali-Frazier tilts are the Gold Standard. Especially as you note one and three. I admit Smokin' Joe is my all-time favorite boxer -- my friends and I used to sometimes go to his gym in North Philly to watch the training sessions (son Mavis was among the trainees) -- Joe was within a hair of winning The Thrilla In Manila, Ali wanted Angelo Dundee to cut the gloves after round 14, but Joe was almost totally blinded at that point and his trainer Eddie Futch threw in the towel. The Ali-Norton fights were also classics. Kenny gave The Champ all he could handle. And obviously The Four Kings with their series of matches -- Hagler, Hearns, Leonard and Duran. Epic rivalries. There were great middleweight rivalries in the 50s -- Sugar Ray Robinson, Jake LaMotta, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fulmer, Paul Pender, etc. An early sports memory for me was watching the Gillette Cavalcade Of Sports with my father and his friends with Basilio defeating Sugar Ray. All in glorious grainy black and white on a 20-inch Admiral TV. Maybe 35 or so years later I got to see Carmen Basilio in person at the International Boxing Hall of Fame near Syracuse discussing that very same fight. Such a thrill. Maybe we should have a boxing thread. So much history, so much good literature. Although my knowledge pretty much stops around the end of Mike Tyson's heyday. |
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Post by Max on Nov 20, 2024 13:02:59 GMT -5
Yes, I remember the Foreman/Lyle fight. I also remember watching the Jimmy Young/Foreman fight with a friend. In a lesson on don't judge a book by it's cover, seeing the two Boxers in the ring, my friend and me agreed that Foreman was absolutely going to dominate that fight and knockout Jimmy Young. We both felt sorry for Jimmy Young and decided to root for him. Well, Jimmy Young won the fight and it looked like he came close to knocking-out Foreman. Hey Max, glad you remember those guys. Jimmy Young was one of my Philly pugilists I used to follow (along with his cousin, middleweight contender Bobby "Boogaloo" Watts.) He wasn't the smoothest fighter out there, but he managed to get tantalizingly close to the top. In addition to the Foreman bout, he narrowly lost decisions to Muhammad Ali and Ken Norton. Both of those fights could easily have been decided the other way. Cousin Boogaloo defeated Marvin Hagler early in Marvin's career in another controversial decision at The Spectrum in Philly. Probably some home cooking involved in that one. In my opinion, both Jimmy Young and Ron Lyle were underrated Boxers. I thought Jimmy Young won his fight vs Ken Norton. I'm an Ali fan, I always rooted for him even when it wasn't popular to do so. But, with that said, I thought he lost to Jimmy Young. Before Ali TKO'd Lyle many people including myself thought that Lyle was winning that fight.
Many years after the fight took place, I watched a classic fight between Jersey Joe Walcott and Joe Louis, in my opinion Walcott won that fight. I watched some of Two Ton Tony Galento's fights. Wow, he was tough. The fight I saw with the two biggest punchers is probably the Shavers vs Norton fight, which Shavers won. In my opinion, Shavers is probably the biggest puncher to never win a title fight.
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