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Post by inger on Mar 17, 2020 17:15:04 GMT -5
1 confirmed test in Pueblo County, CO. There are 64 counties in this state. Some of the lower populated counties have the worst numbers, which makes some sense since those counties are the mountainous counties that feature ski destinations and draw tourists.
The state suffered our 2nd death from the virus yesterday. I’ve gone out but very little so far this week, just for necessities...
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 17, 2020 19:35:11 GMT -5
1 confirmed test in Pueblo County, CO. There are 64 counties in this state. Some of the lower populated counties have the worst numbers, which makes some sense since those counties are the mountainous counties that feature ski destinations and draw tourists. The state suffered our 2nd death from the virus yesterday. I’ve gone out but very little so far this week, just for necessities... Stay safe Inger.
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Post by kaybli on Mar 17, 2020 19:38:48 GMT -5
1 confirmed test in Pueblo County, CO. There are 64 counties in this state. Some of the lower populated counties have the worst numbers, which makes some sense since those counties are the mountainous counties that feature ski destinations and draw tourists. The state suffered our 2nd death from the virus yesterday. I’ve gone out but very little so far this week, just for necessities... Stay safe Inger. I second that.
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Post by kaybli on Mar 17, 2020 19:39:05 GMT -5
Kevin Durant caught it.
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 18, 2020 0:19:59 GMT -5
Just on the news in Dallas - two in critical condition with the Coronavirus are males in their 20s and 30s with no known preexisting conditions. Not what has been expected. Be smart everyone!
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Post by inger on Mar 18, 2020 0:23:55 GMT -5
Just on the news in Dallas - two in critical condition with the Coronavirus are males in their 20s and 30s with no known preexisting conditions. Not what has been expected. Be smart everyone! The person confirmed with the virus in Pueblo County is a 30-year old male... “Tell your statistics to shut up”... Jim Bouton...
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Post by sierchio on Mar 18, 2020 7:54:33 GMT -5
Shit's ridiculous... Some people need to go back to school. I've heard people thinking this is some sort of conspiracy... because on lysol bottles it says it kills corona virus... He didn't realize there's different types of corona viruses and that the common cold is a type of corona virus... he just looked at me like I was the idiot when I tried to explain that to him...
Then, there's this guy who thinks this is part of the end times biblical prophecy and that this is some sort of apocalypse... and God's wrath!!!
The worst are the people who are willing to let the flu erode their freedom... Hope it's not another 9/11... where people give up freedoms for "security" (Guess what people... those freedoms don't come back after the threat is gone)
People are treating toilet paper like heroin... I don't understand it man... If society was really collapsing, which it's not, toilet paper will not save you... but they're going crazy.. for toilet paper...
This flu is showing me how stupid society actually is
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Post by sierchio on Mar 18, 2020 7:58:53 GMT -5
So far no one I know has tested positive, and no one I know knows anyone that has tested positive. Colorado does have either the fifth most or sixth most cases in the nation, though. I was surprised to learn that. We are 8th in land area, but there are only 8M living here, which is way down the population list. Maybe corona is part of the Rocky Mountain High Experience? Hmm. Washington state is the most ravaged state in the country, and they also have legal pot. Is this connected to MJ usage in some way?... I would be surprised if anyone you knew had tested at all given the lack of tests available. In all likelihood there are thousands of people who have it or had it already who never were tested. Where's there lack of testing??? It's pretty easy to get tested here in Florida. I guess it depends on where you live. Honestly, and I'm actually asking... I'm not trying to act like a dick... This is a QUESTION. Wouldn't it be better if people didn't know they had it, spread it around, and the population built up immunity?? Rather than prolong the spread of it??
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Post by domeplease on Mar 18, 2020 9:18:14 GMT -5
I would be surprised if anyone you knew had tested at all given the lack of tests available. In all likelihood there are thousands of people who have it or had it already who never were tested. Where's there lack of testing??? It's pretty easy to get tested here in Florida. I guess it depends on where you live. Honestly, and I'm actually asking... I'm not trying to act like a dick... This is a QUESTION. Wouldn't it be better if people didn't know they had it, spread it around, and the population built up immunity?? Rather than prolong the spread of it?? ONLY if you wanted Millions of Americans to die and our economy to totally crash. The UK was going to this with the Virus; but ran the numbers and decided testing etc. was better..
Talking about people that need to go back to school...
Tequila says HI.
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 18, 2020 9:35:02 GMT -5
I would be surprised if anyone you knew had tested at all given the lack of tests available. In all likelihood there are thousands of people who have it or had it already who never were tested. Where's there lack of testing??? It's pretty easy to get tested here in Florida. I guess it depends on where you live. Honestly, and I'm actually asking... I'm not trying to act like a dick... This is a QUESTION. Wouldn't it be better if people didn't know they had it, spread it around, and the population built up immunity?? Rather than prolong the spread of it?? It’s a good question. This is my paraphrasing from what I have read: The problem is the genetic etiology of this particular virus is not a human virus like the seasonal flu. The DNA/RNA chains that make up human viruses are recognized by the human immune system. This Coronavirus strand is not, as it originated in animals, transferring from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1, birds in the case of the Spanish flu). When animal viruses mutate and transfer from animals to humans, it’s problematic, because we have no natural or acquired immunity. In other words, because RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, our immune system doesn’t recognize it, so we can’t fight it off with evolutionary antibodies built up over millennia. That’s one reason why isolation is so important. How fast this thing mutates is also a grave concern.
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Post by sierchio on Mar 18, 2020 9:45:59 GMT -5
Rizz, thank you for that info. I didn't know that our antibodies can't fight virus that don't originate in humans. Learn something new everyday
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 18, 2020 9:50:00 GMT -5
Rizz, thank you for that info. I didn't know that our antibodies can't fight virus that don't originate in humans. Learn something new everyday I should not have said can’t. More like, not specifically equipped to recognize and fight it effectively.
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 18, 2020 11:04:40 GMT -5
I would be surprised if anyone you knew had tested at all given the lack of tests available. In all likelihood there are thousands of people who have it or had it already who never were tested. Where's there lack of testing??? It's pretty easy to get tested here in Florida. I guess it depends on where you live. Honestly, and I'm actually asking... I'm not trying to act like a dick... This is a QUESTION. Wouldn't it be better if people didn't know they had it, spread it around, and the population built up immunity?? Rather than prolong the spread of it?? I am on calls every day about this, so I am not speculating. This is the reason the FDA is fast tracking new tests and diagnostics without the normal review process. If we had adequate supply of tests they wouldn't need to do that. Of course, if we had a fully staffed pandemic office this would have happened weeks earlier. For example this was an announcement made yesterday to try to ration available tests: "The Minnesota Department of Health (MDH) today announced that due to a national shortage of COVID-19 laboratory testing materials, the state is forced to make adjustments to its testing criteria to focus on the highest priority specimens, including hospitalized patients. Health care workers and those in congregate living settings such as long-term care will also be given high priority." The one positive thing in this area is that some of the new tests now being fast tracked could provide quicker diagnosis and require less complicated labs than the existing PCR tests.
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 18, 2020 11:05:37 GMT -5
Where's there lack of testing??? It's pretty easy to get tested here in Florida. I guess it depends on where you live. Honestly, and I'm actually asking... I'm not trying to act like a dick... This is a QUESTION. Wouldn't it be better if people didn't know they had it, spread it around, and the population built up immunity?? Rather than prolong the spread of it?? It’s a good question. This is my paraphrasing from what I have read: The problem is the genetic etiology of this particular virus is not a human virus like the seasonal flu. The DNA/RNA chains that make up human viruses are recognized by the human immune system. This Coronavirus strand is not, as it originated in animals, transferring from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1, birds in the case of the Spanish flu). When animal viruses mutate and transfer from animals to humans, it’s problematic, because we have no natural or acquired immunity. In other words, because RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, our immune system doesn’t recognize it, so we can’t fight it off with evolutionary antibodies built up over millennia. That’s one reason why isolation is so important. How fast this thing mutates is also a grave concern. The paper Imperial College issued yesterday on this is pretty concerning. Their best case scenario is still pretty awful.
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Post by noetsi on Mar 18, 2020 11:10:15 GMT -5
The reality no one including the experts really know. The Korean results suggest this disease can be contained with limited losses. I don't think our public is willing to do the type of things that stopped it in Korea and China. We have too little respect for experts, value freedom to much, and have to weak a federal government to take the strong actions China and Korea took.
That being the case, the disease will spread.
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