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Post by Renfield on Dec 3, 2022 14:02:54 GMT -5
Mesmerizing choreography cemented by the expressionless, flat affect. Loved it! Yea, Jenna Ortega did a great job as Wednesday Adams. Tim Burton trusted her to do the choreography herself. People copying her dance are pretty much every other video on my TikTok feed. Law mentions Teisco guitars. I owned one as a teenager. It was junk. Intonation was horrible and wouldn't hold what intonation you would give it. Probably didn't help that I had it strung lefthanded without making the necessary adjustments. Of course, I had no idea what I was doing and no one to tell me what needed to be done. Pretty sure it wouldn't have made a difference on that thing. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 3, 2022 17:30:11 GMT -5
Yea, Jenna Ortega did a great job as Wednesday Adams. Tim Burton trusted her to do the choreography herself. People copying her dance are pretty much every other video on my TikTok feed. Law mentions Teisco guitars. I owned one as a teenager. It was junk. Intonation was horrible and wouldn't hold what intonation you would give it. Probably didn't help that I had it strung lefthanded without making the necessary adjustments. Of course, I had no idea what I was doing and no one to tell me what needed to be done. Pretty sure it wouldn't have made a difference on that thing. One of my first was a Kingston, another cheap 60s Japanese model probably made by the same people who made Teisco. The Kingston looked like a Telecaster, but the similarities ended there. It had a fretboard like concrete and was so heavy that my neck would hurt trying to bear the weight. Good for building up the calluses, though. If you could make an augmented chord ring on that beast, you had it made when you started playing a real guitar. |
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Post by topher0713 on Dec 3, 2022 23:35:23 GMT -5
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Post by topher0713 on Dec 3, 2022 23:39:39 GMT -5
Now that is a great video. Shaggs lead guitarist Dot Wiggin couldn't do what that guy does on the Avalon if she took lessons for 50 years. He mentioned Zappa, who would of course champion music like that, but Kurt Cobain also named The Shaggs as his favorite group. I'm guessing there might have been a little tongue in cheek there. Even the seemingly more stable Bonnie Raitt is a fan. You will not be surprised to know that maybe 30 years ago, during one of our annual hockey trips, going from Quebec to Boston, my brother and I detoured into The Shaggs' hometown of Fremont, NH, to see what we might see. The Shaggs consisted of three sisters -- Dot, Helen and Betty Wiggin -- who were managed by their certifiably wacky father. We stopped in to the town hall to explain our mission and asked if any of the Wiggins were still around. A rather exasperated clerk, who had clearly been asked this question before, said that the sisters had moved away but the mother still lived there. She wouldn't tell us where, but the first person we asked on the street directed us to an apartment building a few blocks away. We dutifully trudged over to some modest garden apartments, found the right door, and somewhat nervously rang the buzzer. My brother started to get cold feet and wondered what we would say to Ma Wiggins, but I reassured him I had this one. Nobody answered the door. A neighbor saw us and said that Mrs. Wiggin had gone to the senior center for lunch. I was ready to join her there, but at that point my brother felt it was getting too much like stalking and he wanted to back out. Had I been alone I would have pursued it, and I still regret not doing so. Here's one for the road -- The Shaggs covering The Carpenters "Yesterday Once More." I wonder if Karen ever heard it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BkUFmjz-Ek lol, thats a great story Pipps. Sorry you couldn't fulfill your quest to meet Ma Wiggins.  Also a big fan of Alex Chilton. Started off with Big Star though. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 4, 2022 10:55:05 GMT -5
Also a big fan of Alex Chilton. Started off with Big Star though. Wow, that's a deep dive. Big Star was loved by the critics but never sold many records. Hard to believe Chilton was only 16 when he sang lead on "The Letter" in 1967. You definitely know your stuff. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 4, 2022 11:06:21 GMT -5
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Post by topher0713 on Dec 4, 2022 15:45:34 GMT -5
Also a big fan of Alex Chilton. Started off with Big Star though. Wow, that's a deep dive. Big Star was loved by the critics but never sold many records. Hard to believe Chilton was only 16 when he sang lead on "The Letter" in 1967. You definitely know your stuff. I am a vinyl head so music is my passion besides wanting to play third base for the Yankees. I used to DJ vinyl every Sunday before covid hit but now its once every couple of months. Took it up when I semi-retired and enjoy it. |
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Post by inger on Dec 4, 2022 18:05:15 GMT -5
Wow, that's a deep dive. Big Star was loved by the critics but never sold many records. Hard to believe Chilton was only 16 when he sang lead on "The Letter" in 1967. You definitely know your stuff. I am a vinyl head so music is my passion besides wanting to play third base for the Yankees. I used to DJ vinyl every Sunday before covid hit but now its once every couple of months. Took it up when I semi-retired and enjoy it. If you dig it, do it. If you really dig it, do it twice… <Jim Croce, spoken quote>… |
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 4, 2022 19:03:10 GMT -5
Also a big fan of Alex Chilton. Started off with Big Star though. Wow, that's a deep dive. Big Star was loved by the critics but never sold many records. Hard to believe Chilton was only 16 when he sang lead on "The Letter" in 1967. You definitely know your stuff. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 5, 2022 7:49:16 GMT -5
Wow, that's a deep dive. Big Star was loved by the critics but never sold many records. Hard to believe Chilton was only 16 when he sang lead on "The Letter" in 1967. You definitely know your stuff. Alex was one of the greatest exemplars of blue-eyed soul, for sure. Although most of The Box Tops' stuff was Memphis grit, they also had a hit with a more novel bit of humor called "Sweet Cream Ladies." A year before "The Letter," a 17-year-old Steve Winwood also showed vocal chops beyond his years with The Spencer Davis Group in "Gimme Some Lovin'." Steve was keyboardist and lead vocalist; the eponymous Spencer Davis was lead guitarist. Steve's older brother Muff was bassist and later became an executive with Sony Music. He signed acts like The Psychedelic Furs and Sade and Terence Trent D'Arby and produced Dire Straits, Mott the Hoople, Marianne Faithfull, After The Fire, The Sutherland Brothers and many others, including little Stevie's Traffic. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSIj_yhj7hg |
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Post by inger on Dec 5, 2022 11:09:07 GMT -5
Alex was one of the greatest exemplars of blue-eyed soul, for sure. Although most of The Box Tops' stuff was Memphis grit, they also had a hit with a more novel bit of humor called "Sweet Cream Ladies." A year before "The Letter," a 17-year-old Steve Winwood also showed vocal chops beyond his years with The Spencer Davis Group in "Gimme Some Lovin'." Steve was keyboardist and lead vocalist; the eponymous Spencer Davis was lead guitarist. Steve's older brother Muff was bassist and later became an executive with Sony Music. He signed acts like The Psychedelic Furs and Sade and Terence Trent D'Arby and produced Dire Straits, Mott the Hoople, Marianne Faithfull, After The Fire, The Sutherland Brothers and many others, including little Stevie's Traffic. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSIj_yhj7hgThis wasn’t the days of manufactured stars. There was no American Idol to propel one’s career. So cool that early success was attainable without a false vehicle to launch you… Talent is talent and it usually rises to the top… |
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 14, 2022 22:39:52 GMT -5
God Only Knows - a great title for a song. But, don't you think The Beach Boys kind of ripped off the Capris? I understand that the lyrics are different, though the theme/emotion is identical.
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 15, 2022 9:56:00 GMT -5
God Only Knows - a great title for a song. But, don't you think The Beach Boys kind of ripped off the Capris? I understand that the lyrics are different, though the theme/emotion is identical. Being musicians, I guess it's possible Brian Wilson could have heard that song by the Philly-based Capris, although it only got radio play on the East Coast in 1954. There's a local legendary DJ named Jerry Blavat who pulls that one out of the vaults about once a year. I do know that Capitol records was reluctant to release a Beach Boys song with "God" in the title. This was 1966, and the group was transitioning from its hugely popular surf/car/girls/good times songs to more serious themes. It was the flip side of another hit, "Wouldn't It Be Nice," in the summer of 66. "God Only Knows" was the first charted single release on which Carl Wilson sang lead. He would do so more often in the coming years with "Good Vibrations" and "I Can Hear Music" and "Darlin'" and others. I remember rushing out to buy that "Pet Sounds" album, as I did with all Beach Boys albums, as soon as it hit the stores in May of 1966. Expecting to get my three or four times a year instructions on having a good time from them. I remember feeling almost disoriented listening to it, waiting for something about drive-ins or the beach or burning gas for the hell of it. It took awhile to appreciate it (most of their fans felt the same way; it was far less commercially successful than their albums over the previous few years.) Other than a few cuts like "God Only Knows" and "Wouldn't It Be Nice" and "Caroline No" (plus "Sloop John B" which Brian did not want included but Capitol insisted because it had already been a commercial success and they weren't happy with the direction the band was taking) I rarely listen to songs off the album these days. It's certainly more musically complex and critics prefer it (although they didn't when it came out), but it isn't what made them the soundtrack of the 60s Good Life. I know The Beatles admired it enormously. It came out almost exactly a year before "Sgt. Pepper" and had that same general song cycle approach to album-making. I could spend all day talking Beach Boys, but as a service to humanity I won't. |
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 19, 2022 23:26:08 GMT -5
I wasn't a big Ambrosia fan at 15 years old, but listening to this live performance gave me a new appreciation for the band. Flawlessly delivered, without the studio musicians and computer tricks.
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 28, 2022 4:30:21 GMT -5
Found this on YouTube. Strange pairings have a way of working out.
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