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Post by chiyankee on Jul 23, 2023 18:06:56 GMT -5
Wow Pipps thanks for schooling me. I had no idea that was Lou. Yeah A-Man, two Chicago guys. Sam was an early backer of Lou. I remember a few years later The Animals did a cover version that was a pretty big hit. The Animals are another band that should be more remembered than they are. The House of the Rising Sun, It's my Life, We Gotta Get Out of this Place, Don't Let Me be Misunderstood and some other blues standards done up in their own style.
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Post by kaybli on Jul 23, 2023 18:16:49 GMT -5
Yeah A-Man, two Chicago guys. Sam was an early backer of Lou. I remember a few years later The Animals did a cover version that was a pretty big hit. The Animals are another band that should be more remembered than they are. The House of the Rising Sun, It's my Life, We Gotta Get Out of this Place, Don't Let Me be Misunderstood and some other blues standards done up in their own style. I love house of the rising sun and I will check out those other songs by The Animals that you mentioned!
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Post by rizzuto on Jul 23, 2023 18:22:05 GMT -5
Yeah A-Man, two Chicago guys. Sam was an early backer of Lou. I remember a few years later The Animals did a cover version that was a pretty big hit. The Animals are another band that should be more remembered than they are. The House of the Rising Sun, It's my Life, We Gotta Get Out of this Place, Don't Let Me be Misunderstood and some other blues standards done up in their own style. I often think if I could have one singer's voice, whose would it be? Eric Burdon would be on that list. Powerful and somewhat raspy, he has always sounded old, with a world of experience.
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 23, 2023 18:24:13 GMT -5
The Animals are another band that should be more remembered than they are. The House of the Rising Sun, It's my Life, We Gotta Get Out of this Place, Don't Let Me be Misunderstood and some other blues standards done up in their own style. I love house of the rising sun and I will check out those other songs by The Animals that you mentioned! You know your Animals Chi. All great songs you named. Plus "Boom Boom" and "I'm Crying." But you named my favorites. I didn't like their later efforts as much -- "San Francisco Nights" or "Sky Pilot" or "Monterey." I believe keyboardist Alan Price, who was brilliant, left by then. Their bassist Chas Chandler was Jimi Hendrix' manager and broke him into the UK music scene before he was known in the US.
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 23, 2023 18:30:59 GMT -5
The Animals are another band that should be more remembered than they are. The House of the Rising Sun, It's my Life, We Gotta Get Out of this Place, Don't Let Me be Misunderstood and some other blues standards done up in their own style. I often think if I could have one singer's voice, whose would it be? Eric Burdon would be on that list. Powerful and somewhat raspy, he has always sounded old, with a world of experience. Good choice Rizz. He was barely 23 when he recorded HOTRS. I remember Rolling Stone describing his voice as "Newcastle-Upon-Tyne working class." We saw him play a small club in San Gabriel CA in 1998 and he sounded ferociously powerful. Almost like a white Howlin' Wolf.
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Post by inger on Jul 23, 2023 19:27:26 GMT -5
The Animals are another band that should be more remembered than they are. The House of the Rising Sun, It's my Life, We Gotta Get Out of this Place, Don't Let Me be Misunderstood and some other blues standards done up in their own style. I love house of the rising sun and I will check out those other songs by The Animals that you mentioned! Everyone who ever lived in Rising Sun, MD, including me became a fan of House of the Rising Sun. I would imagine the residents of Rising Sun, Indiana and Rising Sun, Delaware, too. I saw this in You Tube the other day. Maybe you’ll enjoy this little 10 year girl singing it: youtu.be/AH9dyGo-H84
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 23, 2023 19:40:25 GMT -5
Good take Rizz. No question Perry had the vocal chops. I just wasn't a fan of his particular brand of intensity or of the band's repertoire. But what do I know? I was a fan of Gary Lewis and The Playboys and Paul Revere and The Raiders and The Dave Clark Five, so I have no standing on these matters. And we all have different standards for artists we hear in our teens. I had no idea about Steve Perry's background in Hanford. Home of Slim Pickens! And if I ever knew you lived in Hanford (and for that long) it had slipped my mind. I don't think I was ever there, but I remember seeing signs for it when we took Route 99 up to King's Canyon and Sequoia National Parks. You were right in the heart of ag country, eh? I do remember being in Visalia, not far from you, and stopping at the In 'N' Out Burger. Also stopped at Buck Owens' place in Bakersfield right down the road from you. I hope you made that one. Once Sarah was diagnosed with MS in the 1990s, it was important for me to stop my "vagabond" ways, as she used to say. Keeping insurance, having a steady income, and staying reasonably close to her neurologist in Santa Barbara became the focus. At fortune would have it, as soon as we moved in 2008 to Hollister, California in San Benito County (as you probably know, between Santa Clara and Monterey counties), she was diagnosed with cancer for the first time. At least, we were closer to the coast with much cooler weather as she battled another major illness. Your memory is spot on. Hanford is smack in the middle of the Central San Joaquin Valley. Highway 99 is just north of Hanford on the way to Fresno. Visalia is where my friend Joe and I had season tickets to the single A affiliate Visalia Oaks. If you drive west to east on 198 from Hanford through Visalia, you will eventually hit the Sequoia National Forest. Lots of walnut, almond, and stone fruit trees like peaches and plums in and around Hanford, as well as cotton, grapes, oranges, lemons, grapefruit, corn, zucchini, etc. Once we moved to Hollister, then we had road side picks of everything from artichokes in nearby Castroville (where Marilyn Monroe was Norma Jean and was "The Artichoke Queen") and apricots to lettuce and tomatoes, to wonderful strawberries and watermelons. While I was a regular at In 'N' Out Burger (either a single with everything and no cheese, or a double-double animal style), I never made it the Crystal Palace in Bakersfield, though I have a very good friend who lives there. Sarah and I once had tickets for a Jerry Jeff Walker show there, but at the last minute he cancelled due to a back injury. Bakersfield was always the last easy place for petrol before The Grapevine into Los Angeles. I drove that path many, many times. The first apricot I ever ate off a tree was in Hollister - one of the most wonderful flavors I'd ever encountered, like a similar experience of eating a pineapple in the fields of Hawaii - so different from the store bought or canned stuff. For sure, insurance and a steady income is for squares, as we know. But women, amirite? I didn't spend a lot of time in the San Joaquin Valley, but it could be a bit refreshing for its relative normalcy compared to LA or SF. And all those fruits and vegetables. I remember the Sun Maid corporate headquarters used to be off of 99 and had the world's largest raisin box out in front. We got a Christmas ornament with the fetching Sun Maid Girl in her little bonnet inscribed on it. The Grapevine!! I haven't heard that term in years. The steepest part of the drive up I-5. Anything right off the tree or out of the ground is a taste incomparable to anything you could ever buy. We used to go to a nearby pick-your-own orange grove near Pasadena, always on Super Bowl Sunday, so we could boast to our snowbound families back East about how we spent our morning. Maybe the one thing better than a fresh-picked fruit is the double double animal style. It's close. I did some research on Hanford and found that in addition to Ken Caminiti and Tyson Chandler, a former White Sox pitcher named Bill Simas called it home. That has to be a relative of your friend Joe, right? Did you ever come up the eastern side of the Sierra Nevada? Another spectacular drive. Taking 395 through Lone Pine and Big Pine and Bishop -- all in Bogie's trucker movie "They Drive By Night" -- Mount Whitney on one side and Death Valley on the other. As punishment for my many sins I was occasionally sent up to China Lake for work, staying in the God-forsaken town of Ridgecrest. I always said that the third-best restaurant in Ridgecrest was the vending machine at the Holiday Inn, behind only the Wagon Wheel Steakhouse and the Foster Freeze. The upside was taking off up 395 and the amazing scenery.
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Post by rizzuto on Jul 23, 2023 20:24:42 GMT -5
Once Sarah was diagnosed with MS in the 1990s, it was important for me to stop my "vagabond" ways, as she used to say. Keeping insurance, having a steady income, and staying reasonably close to her neurologist in Santa Barbara became the focus. At fortune would have it, as soon as we moved in 2008 to Hollister, California in San Benito County (as you probably know, between Santa Clara and Monterey counties), she was diagnosed with cancer for the first time. At least, we were closer to the coast with much cooler weather as she battled another major illness. Your memory is spot on. Hanford is smack in the middle of the Central San Joaquin Valley. Highway 99 is just north of Hanford on the way to Fresno. Visalia is where my friend Joe and I had season tickets to the single A affiliate Visalia Oaks. If you drive west to east on 198 from Hanford through Visalia, you will eventually hit the Sequoia National Forest. Lots of walnut, almond, and stone fruit trees like peaches and plums in and around Hanford, as well as cotton, grapes, oranges, lemons, grapefruit, corn, zucchini, etc. Once we moved to Hollister, then we had road side picks of everything from artichokes in nearby Castroville (where Marilyn Monroe was Norma Jean and was "The Artichoke Queen") and apricots to lettuce and tomatoes, to wonderful strawberries and watermelons. While I was a regular at In 'N' Out Burger (either a single with everything and no cheese, or a double-double animal style), I never made it the Crystal Palace in Bakersfield, though I have a very good friend who lives there. Sarah and I once had tickets for a Jerry Jeff Walker show there, but at the last minute he cancelled due to a back injury. Bakersfield was always the last easy place for petrol before The Grapevine into Los Angeles. I drove that path many, many times. The first apricot I ever ate off a tree was in Hollister - one of the most wonderful flavors I'd ever encountered, like a similar experience of eating a pineapple in the fields of Hawaii - so different from the store bought or canned stuff. For sure, insurance and a steady income is for squares, as we know. But women, amirite? I didn't spend a lot of time in the San Joaquin Valley, but it could be a bit refreshing for its relative normalcy compared to LA or SF. And all those fruits and vegetables. I remember the Sun Maid corporate headquarters used to be off of 99 and had the world's largest raisin box out in front. We got a Christmas ornament with the fetching Sun Maid Girl in her little bonnet inscribed on it. The Grapevine!! I haven't heard that term in years. The steepest part of the drive up I-5. Anything right off the tree or out of the ground is a taste incomparable to anything you could ever buy. We used to go to a nearby pick-your-own orange grove near Pasadena, always on Super Bowl Sunday, so we could boast to our snowbound families back East about how we spent our morning. Maybe the one thing better than a fresh-picked fruit is the double double animal style. It's close. I did some research on Hanford and found that in addition to Ken Caminiti and Tyson Chandler, a former White Sox pitcher named Bill Simas called it home. That has to be a relative of your friend Joe, right? Did you ever come up the eastern side of the Sierra Nevada? Another spectacular drive. Taking 395 through Lone Pine and Big Pine and Bishop -- all in Bogie's trucker movie "They Drive By Night" -- Mount Whitney on one side and Death Valley on the other. As punishment for my many sins I was occasionally sent up to China Lake for work, staying in the God-forsaken town of Ridgecrest. I always said that the third-best restaurant in Ridgecrest was the vending machine at the Holiday Inn, behind only the Wagon Wheel Steakhouse and the Foster Freeze. The upside was taking off up 395 and the amazing scenery. Great catch! Absolutely, Billy Simas was either Joe's nephew or cousin - I don't recall which now. Joe once told me that all the Simas' had really good arms. He wasn't one to exaggerate - just a matter of fact. You would have loved talking baseball with Joe, who was born in 1938. He had a memory much like yours for baseball and music. So many times, Joe and I talked until the wee hours of the morning...without alcohol. And, Joe enjoyed baseball at every level, from Little League to MLB and The World Baseball Classic. Yes, I traveled several times from Hanford to New Orleans by car, and usually took a different route each time, but of course I spent more time on the west side. Also, I worked for a few months doing educational consulting in Mojave, and I used to travel to Reno and Lake Tahoe for basketball coaching clinics. Sarah and I were married in Lake Tahoe, and our hotel at Harvey's looked right out on the late. Majestic! Until I moved to California, I had no concept of being cold in a desert, let alone knowing that it snowed in both Mojave and Reno. Desert people are rather odd, though. Kind of insular and distrusting. Foster's Freeze had the thickest and best milkshakes! You'd have to eat most of it with a spoon!
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Post by rizzuto on Jul 23, 2023 20:47:51 GMT -5
1973 - "Old School" - back when the live performance sounded like the record!
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Post by inger on Jul 23, 2023 21:08:51 GMT -5
For sure, insurance and a steady income is for squares, as we know. But women, amirite? I didn't spend a lot of time in the San Joaquin Valley, but it could be a bit refreshing for its relative normalcy compared to LA or SF. And all those fruits and vegetables. I remember the Sun Maid corporate headquarters used to be off of 99 and had the world's largest raisin box out in front. We got a Christmas ornament with the fetching Sun Maid Girl in her little bonnet inscribed on it. The Grapevine!! I haven't heard that term in years. The steepest part of the drive up I-5. Anything right off the tree or out of the ground is a taste incomparable to anything you could ever buy. We used to go to a nearby pick-your-own orange grove near Pasadena, always on Super Bowl Sunday, so we could boast to our snowbound families back East about how we spent our morning. Maybe the one thing better than a fresh-picked fruit is the double double animal style. It's close. I did some research on Hanford and found that in addition to Ken Caminiti and Tyson Chandler, a former White Sox pitcher named Bill Simas called it home. That has to be a relative of your friend Joe, right? Did you ever come up the eastern side of the Sierra Nevada? Another spectacular drive. Taking 395 through Lone Pine and Big Pine and Bishop -- all in Bogie's trucker movie "They Drive By Night" -- Mount Whitney on one side and Death Valley on the other. As punishment for my many sins I was occasionally sent up to China Lake for work, staying in the God-forsaken town of Ridgecrest. I always said that the third-best restaurant in Ridgecrest was the vending machine at the Holiday Inn, behind only the Wagon Wheel Steakhouse and the Foster Freeze. The upside was taking off up 395 and the amazing scenery. Great catch! Absolutely, Billy Simas was either Joe's nephew or cousin - I don't recall which now. Joe once told me that all the Simas' had really good arms. He wasn't one to exaggerate - just a matter of fact. You would have loved talking baseball with Joe, who was born in 1938. He had a memory much like yours for baseball and music. So many times, Joe and I talked until the wee hours of the morning...without alcohol. And, Joe enjoyed baseball at every level, from Little League to MLB and The World Baseball Classic. Yes, I traveled several times from Hanford to New Orleans by car, and usually took a different route each time, but of course I spent more time on the west side. Also, I worked for a few months doing educational consulting in Mojave, and I used to travel to Reno and Lake Tahoe for basketball coaching clinics. Sarah and I were married in Lake Tahoe, and our hotel at Harvey's looked right out on the late. Majestic! Until I moved to California, I had no concept of being cold in a desert, let alone knowing that it snowed in both Mojave and Reno. Desert people are rather odd, though. Kind of insular and distrusting. Foster's Freeze had the thickest and best milkshakes! You'd have to eat most of it with a spoon! Just to support what you said, I’m a desert people now. Since 2017. But this valley has something else going on that you can’t quite put your finger on. Some of the whites feel like they’re treated like a minority. I think that can be true if you want it to be. For me, I love the people. They’ve been great. Also an interesting mix of religions here, much ov the Hispanic population with their usual Catholic influence, but LDS and Mormon have a large presence. The odd little town of Crestone features Hindu and Buddhist religious facilities, and a fair number of deists as well. So cool to be in a place that was inhabited long before Plymouth Rock, which we were taught in school was like the beginning of America…
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 23, 2023 21:49:02 GMT -5
1973 - "Old School" - back when the live performance sounded like the record! Steely Dan is one of my favorite bands, Becker & Fagan were outstanding musicians and clever songwriters. That's future Doobie Brother Jeff "Skunk" Baxter on lead guitar.
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 24, 2023 5:04:06 GMT -5
1973 - "Old School" - back when the live performance sounded like the record! Steely Dan is one of my favorite bands, Becker & Fagan were outstanding musicians and clever songwriters. That's future Doobie Brother Jeff "Skunk" Baxter on lead guitar. That was complex stuff they were doing. It took me awhile to appreciate them. You grow up with Sloopy and Louie Louie, it takes time to catch up with "Hey Nineteen." Tremendous band, unquestionably.
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Post by rizzuto on Jul 24, 2023 20:16:58 GMT -5
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 25, 2023 12:22:45 GMT -5
Good article, Rizz and thank you for posting it. Anyone who was a fan of The Beach Boys/Byrds/Righteous Brothers has long known about Carol Kaye. She is always in the conversation for great bassists, just like any Wrecking Crew member always ranks among the top in their field -- Hal Blaine, Tommy Tedesco, Billy Strange, Earl Palmer, Larry Knechtel, and most famously Glen Campbell. I learned something new in that article -- that she played rhythm guitar on "La Bamba." Wow -- not that the part is so demanding, but that she was in the studio in 1958 with Ritchie Valens. I was a little surprised that it didn't mention two of her iconic interventions -- the bass line in "These Boots Are Made For Walking" and even more so the indelible bass configuration in "The Beat Goes On," which had been a finished recording without that famous line. Sonny Bono -- who himself performed percussion duties with The Wrecking Crew -- thought the song lacked energy, which is where Kaye come up with that introduction. I asked two bass-playing friends of mine who they considered the greatest bass player. They both said Jaco Pretorius, who was mainly a jazz/fusion guy who is not as well-known among the public at large. He did play in Weather Report if that name means anything to you. Like many insanely creative people he had no self-control, became a hopeless drug addict and died in his mid-30s. I don't think I put much thought on bass lines until around 1964, maybe because superior recording technology brought it more to the forefront and I started hearing the great bass foundations of Motown -- especially James Jamerson, one of The Funk Brothers -- Motown's version of The Wrecking Crew -- who played on nearly every Motown recording of the 60s into the early 70s. He made those songs jump and is held in very high regard by guys who actually play bass. And Paul McCartney was right in there -- the bass parts in songs like "Nowhere Man" and "And Your Bird Can Sing" and dozens of others grab the attention even of dilettantes like me. Another favorite is Bootsy Collins, who backed James Brown and Parliament/Funkadelic before starting his own Bootsy's Rubber Band. And Duck Dunn of Booker T and the MGs and all those Stax/Volt songs by Otis Redding, Sam and Dave, Wilson Pickett, Eddie Floyd and so on. Just masterful. John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin, Chris Squire of Yes, Geddy Lee of Rush. All in there. I even like the guy from Cheap Trick, Tom Petersson. Another really good one is Larry Graham, who started with Sly and the Family Stone and then formed his own band Graham Central Station. I saw them when they were just starting out, playing a small room at Santa Clara University. The guy had talent out the wazoo, it almost seemed unfair. BTW he is the uncle of Drake, whose mug recently graced this site hanging out with Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton. I'm sure there are a thousand others who could be named. I have long maintained that the supply of great musicians is actually greater than the demand for them.
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 25, 2023 12:49:28 GMT -5
Great list Pipps. I'd add John Entwistle of the The Who, whose bass playing was so powerful that it seemed like at at times the band had a lead bassist.
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