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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 22, 2023 17:20:43 GMT -5
Concur on Green Day. The punk reaction was such a needed course correction in the 1970s. Rock and Roll is a big tent, but somewhere in the corner of that tent there needs to be some edginess, whether it's from Jerry Lee Lewis or James Brown or proto-punk garage bands that nobody remembers today like The Shadows of Knight or The Music Machine or first wave punks like the Sex Pistols or The Ramones on up through as you say Green Day and Grunge. Obviously there is always going to be plenty of room for straight-ahead rock or power pop or narrative singer-songwriters or R&B, soul, country-flavored or lyrical ballads or any other genres you can name. But without some of the eff-you brand the corporate moguls will always push in the direction of lowest common denominator pap music for people who don't care about music. I remember both "Shadows of Knight" & "The Music Machine" very well. "Shadows of Knight" version of "Gloria" did much better than "Them" (Van Morrison). "The Music Machine" with a fuzz bass on "Talk,Talk" and farfisa on "People In Me". We are on the same frequency my friend. Shadows Of Knight also had another modest hit covering Bo Diddley's "Oh Yeah." I preferred their version of "Gloria" to Van Morrison's, even though Van wrote the song. Man I loved The Music Machine. True early punks from the San Jose area that around that same time also turned out two other groups you will surely remember, Syndicate Of Sound ("Little Girl") and Count Five ("Psychotic Reaction.") Wow, forgot about "People In Me" but I had the 45 and remember the flip side was "Masculine Intuition." I had an oldies radio show in Santa Fe in the late 1980s. Sean Bonniwell, lead singer of The Music Machine, was living in the area at the time. I was able to track him down, but he didn't want to come into the studio for an interview but he did agree to a phone interview. He was still pissed off at the world in general, but it made for good radio. I know he died quite a while ago. Another good punkish song from that era was "Friday On My Mind" by The Easybeats from Australia. That one still packs a wallop. So many garage bands -- ? and The Mysterians, The McCoys, The Kingsmen, The Seeds. Love that stuff -- three chords and away we go. Or two chords in the case of The Seeds ("Pushin' Too Hard.") |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 22, 2023 17:37:00 GMT -5
I joined a lead group in Pueblo that small business people use to give each other leads. Since there is an aroma therapy and a powdered juice owner in the group I figure that i’ll Do business with them if at all possible. Hopefully I won’t have to tell the aroma lady her products stink, nor the juice lady that her juices taste bad (that ain’t right)... If you live in CO, you might be familiar with this highly underrated band... www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiTSJfHyjeMGreat song, but I admit I am completely unfamiliar with the band. Colorado in general has not historically been a hot-bed of rock music, although anything from the last 20 years or so I would not likely know about. I recall Sugarloaf from Denver -- "Green-Eyed Lady" and "Don't Call Us, We'll Call You." Mostly a lot of soft-rock purveyors like Firefall and Michael Johnson. Or John Denver if you must. I am familiar with Nathaniel Ratelief and The Night Sweats and do like them. |
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Post by Renfield on Dec 22, 2023 17:57:21 GMT -5
Knopfler's guitar work on Sultans of Swing on the Alchemy Live album is epic. Whole band was locked in, but Knopfler and the drummer were otherwordly.
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Post by azbob643 on Dec 22, 2023 18:12:45 GMT -5
I remember both "Shadows of Knight" & "The Music Machine" very well. "Shadows of Knight" version of "Gloria" did much better than "Them" (Van Morrison). "The Music Machine" with a fuzz bass on "Talk,Talk" and farfisa on "People In Me". We are on the same frequency my friend. Shadows Of Knight also had another modest hit covering Bo Diddley's "Oh Yeah." I preferred their version of "Gloria" to Van Morrison's, even though Van wrote the song. Man I loved The Music Machine. True early punks from the San Jose area that around that same time also turned out two other groups you will surely remember, Syndicate Of Sound ("Little Girl") and Count Five ("Psychotic Reaction.") Wow, forgot about "People In Me" but I had the 45 and remember the flip side was "Masculine Intuition." I had an oldies radio show in Santa Fe in the late 1980s. Sean Bonniwell, lead singer of The Music Machine, was living in the area at the time. I was able to track him down, but he didn't want to come into the studio for an interview but he did agree to a phone interview. He was still pissed off at the world in general, but it made for good radio. I know he died quite a while ago. Another good punkish song from that era was "Friday On My Mind" by The Easybeats from Australia. That one still packs a wallop. So many garage bands -- ? and The Mysterians, The McCoys, The Kingsmen, The Seeds. Love that stuff -- three chords and away we go. Or two chords in the case of The Seeds ("Pushin' Too Hard.") "Masculine Intuition" another song with the fuzz bass. If you remember "Them" you know "I Can Only Give You Everything"...another with a lot of fuzz. And yes, of course I remember "Syndicate Of Sound" & "Count Five". Little trivia re "Easybeats"...George Young was the older brother of Malcom & Angus (AC/DC). |
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Post by azbob643 on Dec 22, 2023 18:18:22 GMT -5
Great song, but I admit I am completely unfamiliar with the band. Colorado in general has not historically been a hot-bed of rock music, although anything from the last 20 years or so I would not likely know about. I recall Sugarloaf from Denver -- "Green-Eyed Lady" and "Don't Call Us, We'll Call You." Mostly a lot of soft-rock purveyors like Firefall and Michael Johnson. Or John Denver if you must. I am familiar with Nathaniel Ratelief and The Night Sweats and do like them. Few other bands CO bands...The Fray, Big Head Todd & The Monsters, One Republic. Big Head Todd had a couple of minor hits with "Bittersweet" & "Broken Hearted Savior". www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXV8oyIsvpEwww.youtube.com/watch?v=Trggg9HzF7Y |
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 22, 2023 18:30:01 GMT -5
Knopfler's guitar work on Sultans of Swing on the Alchemy Live album is epic. Whole band was locked in, but Knopfler and the drummer were otherwordly. |
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Post by azbob643 on Dec 22, 2023 18:48:19 GMT -5
Toad The Wet Sprocket has been mentioned here. There was a lot of collaboration between them, The Samples & The Freddy Jones Band which, IMO, can easily be heard here... www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYeVVcJXsmI |
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Post by inger on Dec 22, 2023 18:56:09 GMT -5
I joined a lead group in Pueblo that small business people use to give each other leads. Since there is an aroma therapy and a powdered juice owner in the group I figure that i’ll Do business with them if at all possible. Hopefully I won’t have to tell the aroma lady her products stink, nor the juice lady that her juices taste bad (that ain’t right)... If you live in CO, you might be familiar with this highly underrated band... www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiTSJfHyjeMNever of them until now. They sound pretty decent though… |
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Post by azbob643 on Dec 22, 2023 19:00:59 GMT -5
Never of them until now. They sound pretty decent though… Very good...out of Boulder. Very popular in Metro Denver...just never quite made it. |
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Post by inger on Dec 22, 2023 19:10:48 GMT -5
Never of them until now. They sound pretty decent though… Very good...out of Boulder. Very popular in Metro Denver...just never quite made it. I live about 4 hours away from Denver in the low population San Luis Valley, only minutes away from Alamosa and the Great Sand Dunes. Denver is like another planet to me… |
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Post by bomberhojoe on Dec 22, 2023 19:22:54 GMT -5
Knopfler's guitar work on Sultans of Swing on the Alchemy Live album is epic. Whole band was locked in, but Knopfler and the drummer were otherwordly. Terry Williams was the drummer. Before he played with Dire Straits he was in Rockpile. |
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Post by azbob643 on Dec 22, 2023 19:26:55 GMT -5
Very good...out of Boulder. Very popular in Metro Denver...just never quite made it. I live about 4 hours away from Denver in the low population San Luis Valley, only minutes away from Alamosa and the Great Sand Dunes. Denver is like another planet to me… I know the state very well...lived in Metro Denver for 30 years before retiring to AZ. My kids/g-kids are still there, sister & brother in Co Spgs, so I'm up there very frequently. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Dec 22, 2023 19:45:37 GMT -5
Knopfler's guitar work on Sultans of Swing on the Alchemy Live album is epic. Whole band was locked in, but Knopfler and the drummer were otherwordly. Check out the guitar work in this live version of Brothers in Arms. Brilliant! www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3_HTGdLXL4 |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 22, 2023 20:28:44 GMT -5
We are on the same frequency my friend. Shadows Of Knight also had another modest hit covering Bo Diddley's "Oh Yeah." I preferred their version of "Gloria" to Van Morrison's, even though Van wrote the song. Man I loved The Music Machine. True early punks from the San Jose area that around that same time also turned out two other groups you will surely remember, Syndicate Of Sound ("Little Girl") and Count Five ("Psychotic Reaction.") Wow, forgot about "People In Me" but I had the 45 and remember the flip side was "Masculine Intuition." I had an oldies radio show in Santa Fe in the late 1980s. Sean Bonniwell, lead singer of The Music Machine, was living in the area at the time. I was able to track him down, but he didn't want to come into the studio for an interview but he did agree to a phone interview. He was still pissed off at the world in general, but it made for good radio. I know he died quite a while ago. Another good punkish song from that era was "Friday On My Mind" by The Easybeats from Australia. That one still packs a wallop. So many garage bands -- ? and The Mysterians, The McCoys, The Kingsmen, The Seeds. Love that stuff -- three chords and away we go. Or two chords in the case of The Seeds ("Pushin' Too Hard.") "Masculine Intuition" another song with the fuzz bass. If you remember "Them" you know "I Can Only Give You Everything"...another with a lot of fuzz. And yes, of course I remember "Syndicate Of Sound" & "Count Five". Little trivia re "Easybeats"...George Young was the older brother of Malcom & Angus (AC/DC). Yep, I did know that about the Young brothers. But I'm always happily surprised when somebody else does too! The Easybeats were the first Aussie rock band to have a hit in the US. They were huge in Australia, but as far as I know FOMM was their only song that got much airplay here. I bought their album when it came out in 1966 and patiently waited for another that never materialized, at least where I was. The flip side of FOMM was "Made My Bed (Gonna Lie In It.") When we had time to listen to flip sides. I remember that George Young formed another band Flash and the Pan which got some airplay in the late 70s, but never reached the creativity of The Easybeats. First song I remember hearing by Them was "Here Comes The Night." Also "Mystic Eyes," both from 1965. On the lovely Parrot label, which also gave us The Zombies, Jonathan King, Hedgehoppers Anonymous, Lulu and Tom Jones. I believe Jimmy Page played the studio guitar lead on "Here Comes The Night." I'm not sure if you and Music are the same person, but in any event I do appreciate your musical knowledge and it's great to see a group of you from the YES board chiming in on the music thread along with our usual contributors. Keep it coming. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 22, 2023 20:35:15 GMT -5
Knopfler's guitar work on Sultans of Swing on the Alchemy Live album is epic. Whole band was locked in, but Knopfler and the drummer were otherwordly. Terry Williams was the drummer. Before he played with Dire Straits he was in Rockpile. Thank you for mentioning Terry Williams, Joe. And that Rockpile album "Seconds Of Pleasure" was wonderful. As you would expect from a Nick Lowe-Dave Edmunds collaboration. Williams, a long-time collaborator with Edmunds, was listed on the credits as "drums, drums, drums." I recall that when the album was first released it also included a separate EP with just Nick and Dave playing acoustic guitars and doing four Everly Brothers songs. They did a great tribute to two of my musical idols. |
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