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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 22, 2023 20:40:01 GMT -5
Knopfler's guitar work on Sultans of Swing on the Alchemy Live album is epic. Whole band was locked in, but Knopfler and the drummer were otherwordly. Definitely one of the all-time best Ren. He has to be on the short list of best rock guitarists, although you have to really split hairs to try to rank them as is so often done. It's like trying to name the greatest pitcher of all time. Except that there are even more legitimate candidates when it comes to guitar. Sultans is pure classic. |
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Post by azbob643 on Dec 22, 2023 20:43:00 GMT -5
"Masculine Intuition" another song with the fuzz bass. If you remember "Them" you know "I Can Only Give You Everything"...another with a lot of fuzz. And yes, of course I remember "Syndicate Of Sound" & "Count Five". Little trivia re "Easybeats"...George Young was the older brother of Malcom & Angus (AC/DC). Yep, I did know that about the Young brothers. But I'm always happily surprised when somebody else does too! The Easybeats were the first Aussie rock band to have a hit in the US. They were huge in Australia, but as far as I know FOMM was their only song that got much airplay here. I bought their album when it came out in 1966 and patiently waited for another that never materialized, at least where I was. The flip side of FOMM was "Made My Bed (Gonna Lie In It.") When we had time to listen to flip sides. I remember that George Young formed another band Flash and the Pan which got some airplay in the late 70s, but never reached the creativity of The Easybeats. First song I remember hearing by Them was "Here Comes The Night." Also "Mystic Eyes," both from 1965. On the lovely Parrot label, which also gave us The Zombies, Jonathan King, Hedgehoppers Anonymous, Lulu and Tom Jones. I believe Jimmy Page played the studio guitar lead on "Here Comes The Night." I'm not sure if you and Music are the same person, but in any event I do appreciate your musical knowledge and it's great to see a group of you from the YES board chiming in on the music thread along with our usual contributors. Keep it coming. Yes...I posted as "Music" just to get a feel for the place before registering. Baseball & music have always been my primary interests, outside of family of course. As I assume you know, the 60's were a time of many local "garage bands", of which I played in a couple before baseball took over most of my time. Several guys from the neighborhood went on to some fame, including Steve Tallarico, Joey Kramer, Tommy Wolk (SNL/Hall & Oates) & Bobby Mayo (Frampton). Sadly, both Tommy & Bobby passed away at a very young age. |
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Post by Renfield on Dec 22, 2023 20:52:31 GMT -5
Knopfler's guitar work on Sultans of Swing on the Alchemy Live album is epic. Whole band was locked in, but Knopfler and the drummer were otherwordly. Terry Williams was the drummer. Before he played with Dire Straits he was in Rockpile. Did not know Williams was in Rockpile--with another guitar wizard, Dave Edmunds. Thanks, bomber. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 22, 2023 21:05:46 GMT -5
Yep, I did know that about the Young brothers. But I'm always happily surprised when somebody else does too! The Easybeats were the first Aussie rock band to have a hit in the US. They were huge in Australia, but as far as I know FOMM was their only song that got much airplay here. I bought their album when it came out in 1966 and patiently waited for another that never materialized, at least where I was. The flip side of FOMM was "Made My Bed (Gonna Lie In It.") When we had time to listen to flip sides. I remember that George Young formed another band Flash and the Pan which got some airplay in the late 70s, but never reached the creativity of The Easybeats. First song I remember hearing by Them was "Here Comes The Night." Also "Mystic Eyes," both from 1965. On the lovely Parrot label, which also gave us The Zombies, Jonathan King, Hedgehoppers Anonymous, Lulu and Tom Jones. I believe Jimmy Page played the studio guitar lead on "Here Comes The Night." I'm not sure if you and Music are the same person, but in any event I do appreciate your musical knowledge and it's great to see a group of you from the YES board chiming in on the music thread along with our usual contributors. Keep it coming. Yes...I posted as "Music" just to get a feel for the place before registering. Baseball & music have always been my primary interests, outside of family of course. As I assume you know, the 60's were a time of many local "garage bands", of which I played in a few before baseball took over most of my time. Several guys from the neighborhood went on to some fame, including Steve Tallarico, Joey Kramer, Tommy Wolk (SNL/Hall & Oates) & Bobby Mayo (Frampton). Unfortunately, both Tommy & Bobby passed away at a very young age. Steve Tallarico as in Stephen Tyler? Yeah, that's a name brand. Obviously you grew up in NYC. I grew up in the burbs of Philly and like you was in a series of garage bands, none of which you will ever find listed in the Billboard annals. But it was a great experience and we did get to open for a few bands you might know. Well, one anyway, Little Anthony and The Imperials at the Satellite Lounge in Burlington County NJ. Our manager knew Carlo Rossi, who owned the place, and he needed a last-minute replacement to open and we were always available! Also one a few on here might know, The Knickerbockers. They had one hit -- but it was a great one -- called "Lies." At the Wilmington Armory in DE. It was our "prize" for winning a Battle Of The Bands. Remember those? In lieu of actually getting paid, of course. If you are really deep into Philly music, our manager was a guy named Kit Stewart, who had a regionally very popular group called The Kit Kats. I wouldn't expect anyone not from the Philly area to know them. They were extraordinarily talented, but the supply of talented musicians far outweighs the demand. Yep, baseball, music and family for me too, although I would have to add travel somewhere near the top of that rotation. That saguaro in your avatar looks very inviting in December in the northeast. We spent a few winters in AZ, mainly around Scottsdale and Sedona. One of our greatest states for sure. And at one time the In'N'Out in Scottsdale was the furthest east of the whole chain. Tour Taliesen West in the morning, get an Animal Style for lunch, and settle in for drinks at The Biltmore. A great way to spend a day in February. |
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Post by Max on Dec 23, 2023 13:36:00 GMT -5
My favorite guitar riff ever is from "Money for Nothing" His playing on "Sultans of Swing" is legendary! I agree! I also enjoyed listening to Saul Hudson's guitar solos on "November Rain". I haven't heard that song in a long time, but if I'm not mistaken he had 3 guitar solos during that song. |
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Post by kaybli on Dec 23, 2023 13:49:33 GMT -5
His playing on "Sultans of Swing" is legendary! I agree! I also enjoyed listening to Saul Hudson's guitar solos on "November Rain". I haven't heard that song in a long time, but if I'm not mistaken he had 3 guitar solos during that song. Love November Rain. All 9 minutes of it!  |
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Post by Max on Dec 23, 2023 14:15:38 GMT -5
I agree! I also enjoyed listening to Saul Hudson's guitar solos on "November Rain". I haven't heard that song in a long time, but if I'm not mistaken he had 3 guitar solos during that song. Love November Rain. All 9 minutes of it! LOL! |
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Post by azbob643 on Dec 23, 2023 17:35:43 GMT -5
Yes...I posted as "Music" just to get a feel for the place before registering. Baseball & music have always been my primary interests, outside of family of course. As I assume you know, the 60's were a time of many local "garage bands", of which I played in a few before baseball took over most of my time. Several guys from the neighborhood went on to some fame, including Steve Tallarico, Joey Kramer, Tommy Wolk (SNL/Hall & Oates) & Bobby Mayo (Frampton). Unfortunately, both Tommy & Bobby passed away at a very young age. Steve Tallarico as in Stephen Tyler? Yeah, that's a name brand. Obviously you grew up in NYC. I grew up in the burbs of Philly and like you was in a series of garage bands, none of which you will ever find listed in the Billboard annals. But it was a great experience and we did get to open for a few bands you might know. Well, one anyway, Little Anthony and The Imperials at the Satellite Lounge in Burlington County NJ. Our manager knew Carlo Rossi, who owned the place, and he needed a last-minute replacement to open and we were always available! Also one a few on here might know, The Knickerbockers. They had one hit -- but it was a great one -- called "Lies." At the Wilmington Armory in DE. It was our "prize" for winning a Battle Of The Bands. Remember those? In lieu of actually getting paid, of course. If you are really deep into Philly music, our manager was a guy named Kit Stewart, who had a regionally very popular group called The Kit Kats. I wouldn't expect anyone not from the Philly area to know them. They were extraordinarily talented, but the supply of talented musicians far outweighs the demand. Yeah…Tallarico (Tyler) and drummer Joey Kramer. Ray Tabano, their original rhythm guitarist before being replaced by Brad Whitford, was also a local. Most think of them as a Boston band, but those 3 guys are NYers. Philly, of course, has a rich history starting with “teen idols” Fabian, Bobby Rydell, etc. thru Gamble & Huff (O’Jays, Spinners, Stylistics, etc.) then to one of my all-time favorites…Todd Rundgren. Hall & Oates doing “Back Stabbers” at Daryl’s House is a great rendition. BTW…that’s Tommy Wolk on guitar. www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kgIYkH_FsQ |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 24, 2023 14:58:33 GMT -5
Steve Tallarico as in Stephen Tyler? Yeah, that's a name brand. Obviously you grew up in NYC. I grew up in the burbs of Philly and like you was in a series of garage bands, none of which you will ever find listed in the Billboard annals. But it was a great experience and we did get to open for a few bands you might know. Well, one anyway, Little Anthony and The Imperials at the Satellite Lounge in Burlington County NJ. Our manager knew Carlo Rossi, who owned the place, and he needed a last-minute replacement to open and we were always available! Also one a few on here might know, The Knickerbockers. They had one hit -- but it was a great one -- called "Lies." At the Wilmington Armory in DE. It was our "prize" for winning a Battle Of The Bands. Remember those? In lieu of actually getting paid, of course. If you are really deep into Philly music, our manager was a guy named Kit Stewart, who had a regionally very popular group called The Kit Kats. I wouldn't expect anyone not from the Philly area to know them. They were extraordinarily talented, but the supply of talented musicians far outweighs the demand. Yeah…Tallarico (Tyler) and drummer Joey Kramer. Ray Tabano, their original rhythm guitarist before being replaced by Brad Whitford, was also a local. Most think of them as a Boston band, but those 3 guys are NYers. Philly, of course, has a rich history starting with “teen idols” Fabian, Bobby Rydell, etc. thru Gamble & Huff (O’Jays, Spinners, Stylistics, etc.) then to one of my all-time favorites…Todd Rundgren. Hall & Oates doing “Back Stabbers” at Daryl’s House is a great rendition. BTW…that’s Tommy Wolk on guitar. www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kgIYkH_FsQGood stuff Bob. "Darryl's House" was a great show, and that's a solid take on "Backstabbers." A little front time for Oates! I'm sure you saw the episode with Todd Rundgren. He is indeed talented -- he grew up just a few blocks from where Jim Croce lived in Upper Darby (that counts as Philly.) He's done great work in so many different guises -- first with Nazz (the original "Hello It's Me," very different from the later re-doing) and then as Runt ("We Gotta Get You A Woman") and Utopia ("Feet Don't Fail Me Now" was a hilarious early MTV video) plus all the stuff he did as regular old Todd Rundgren. I especially like "I Saw The Light." My frame of reference on rock music goes back to the mid-50s, which means I can spend a lot of time expatiating on artists nobody ever heard of or cares about. I don't let that stop me, though. Some of the early rock and roll acts from Philly would include Danny and the Juniors ("At The Hop"), The Silhouettes ("Get A Job"), The Sensations ("Let Me In") and one of my favorites Lee Andrews and the Hearts ("Long Lonely Nights" and "Try The Impossible."). Lee Andrews is the father of Questlove, who is one of the frontmen for Jimmy Fallon's house band The Roots. Then came the likes of The Orlons ("South Street" and "Don't Hang Up"), The Dovells ("The Bristol Stomp" and "You Can't Sit Down") and their lead singer Len Barry ("1,2,3") and The Tymes ("So Much In Love"). Chubby Checker is in there too. A very talented performer who got pigeonholed doing novelty dance songs but who could handle Caribbean-flavored tunes quite well. This might be before your era, but I really liked a lot of the gospel-soul singers from Philly like Garnet Mimms ("Cry Baby") and Solomon Burke ("Cry To Me" and "Everybody Needs Somebody To Love," which had the distinction of being covered by Wilson Pickett, The Rolling Stones and even The Blues Brothers.) The Gamble and Huff era you noted for sure -- to your list I could also add Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes, the Delfonics, the Intruders, the Trammps, on and on and on. On the more pop side I bet you remember Keith ("98.6" was his big one) and the Soul Survivors ("Expressway To Your Heart"). Darryl Hall was involved in an instrumental project pre-dating H&O called Electric Indian which had a Top 40 hit in 1969 called "Keem-O-Sabe." Later in the 70s and 80s the likes of The Hooters ("All You Zombies") and The A's ("A Woman's Got The Power") and Robert Hazard (best know for writing "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" but he had his own hits like "Escalator Of Life" and "Change Reaction") and on through Boyz II Men and then I start losing connection. But no place is going to compare to your hometown for the sheer number of groups and songs. I wouldn't even know where to begin. I love doo-wop, which is a fairly specialized genre, and you had The Harptones, Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers, early Dion and the Belmonts, the Elegants ("Little Star") and approximately a million more. Most of the best early-to-mid 60s Girl Groups -- The Ronettes, The Crystals, The Chiffons (my favorites), the Shangri-Las, the ethereal Reparata and the Delrons. Do you know a song from 1963 "Sally Go Round The Roses" by The Jaynetts? One of my all-time favorites of anything. Mainstream guys like Simon and Garfunkel, Neil Diamond, Carole King. One of the best blue-eyed soul acts The Rascals. And the best exemplars of the short-lived Baroque Rock genre, The Left Banke, Juilliard students whose big hits were "Walk Away Renee" and "Pretty Ballerina." And the immortal Blues Magoos, who left us with "We Ain't Got Nothin' Yet." I know you know those. I haven't even gotten out of the 60s yet, but I'll be merciful and end it here. It's always fun comparing notes with fellow rock history enthusiasts. |
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Post by azbob643 on Dec 24, 2023 15:25:55 GMT -5
Yeah…Tallarico (Tyler) and drummer Joey Kramer. Ray Tabano, their original rhythm guitarist before being replaced by Brad Whitford, was also a local. Most think of them as a Boston band, but those 3 guys are NYers. Philly, of course, has a rich history starting with “teen idols” Fabian, Bobby Rydell, etc. thru Gamble & Huff (O’Jays, Spinners, Stylistics, etc.) then to one of my all-time favorites…Todd Rundgren. Hall & Oates doing “Back Stabbers” at Daryl’s House is a great rendition. BTW…that’s Tommy Wolk on guitar. www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kgIYkH_FsQGood stuff Bob. "Darryl's House" was a great show, and that's a solid take on "Backstabbers." A little front time for Oates! I'm sure you saw the episode with Todd Rundgren. He is indeed talented -- he grew up just a few blocks from where Jim Croce lived in Upper Darby (that counts as Philly.) He's done great work in so many different guises -- first with Nazz (the original "Hello It's Me," very different from the later re-doing) and then as Runt ("We Gotta Get You A Woman") and Utopia ("Feet Don't Fail Me Now" was a hilarious early MTV video) plus all the stuff he did as regular old Todd Rundgren. I especially like "I Saw The Light." Hope you don't mind that I "edit" posts I respond to in order to address specifics... Yes...love the "Daryl's House" with Todd Rundgren at his home in Hawaii. You mentioned songs entitled "Cry Baby" & "Cry To Me". Utopia also had a song of the same name, with IMO a terrific chorus. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVBI29aRhNs |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Dec 24, 2023 16:01:34 GMT -5
Yep, I did know that about the Young brothers. But I'm always happily surprised when somebody else does too! The Easybeats were the first Aussie rock band to have a hit in the US. They were huge in Australia, but as far as I know FOMM was their only song that got much airplay here. I bought their album when it came out in 1966 and patiently waited for another that never materialized, at least where I was. The flip side of FOMM was "Made My Bed (Gonna Lie In It.") When we had time to listen to flip sides. I remember that George Young formed another band Flash and the Pan which got some airplay in the late 70s, but never reached the creativity of The Easybeats. First song I remember hearing by Them was "Here Comes The Night." Also "Mystic Eyes," both from 1965. On the lovely Parrot label, which also gave us The Zombies, Jonathan King, Hedgehoppers Anonymous, Lulu and Tom Jones. I believe Jimmy Page played the studio guitar lead on "Here Comes The Night." I'm not sure if you and Music are the same person, but in any event I do appreciate your musical knowledge and it's great to see a group of you from the YES board chiming in on the music thread along with our usual contributors. Keep it coming. Yes...I posted as "Music" just to get a feel for the place before registering. Baseball & music have always been my primary interests, outside of family of course. As I assume you know, the 60's were a time of many local "garage bands", of which I played in a couple before baseball took over most of my time. Several guys from the neighborhood went on to some fame, including Steve Tallarico, Joey Kramer, Tommy Wolk (SNL/Hall & Oates) & Bobby Mayo (Frampton). Sadly, both Tommy & Bobby passed away at a very young age. I remember that Them being mad at Parrot Records for not releasing "Gloria," since was written by their Lead Singer Van Morrison, while allowing the American group, the Shadows of Knight having a US Top 40 Hit with it. It was the beginning of the end of the group. Clipper |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Dec 24, 2023 16:19:48 GMT -5
I was watching the series "Reacher" on Amazon - from the Jack Reacher novels by Lee Child that I mentioned before - and the song played. I went to YouTube and listened to the song in its entirety for the first time, and thought, "This has to be right in Pipps' wheelhouse." And, indeed, anyone from south Louisiana who likes real music knows Sweet Irma Thomas. Jimmy Buffett from Mobile, Alabama once sang (song is called "Saxophones") in his earlier career when trying to get air time: I cut my teeth on gumbo rock Benny Spellman and Doctor John Sweet Irma Thomas and Frogman Henry Use to boogie woogie all night long Though I love rock and roll the acoustic guitar was the only way I had of becoming a star I’m doin rather nice and traveling around But they won’t play my record in my own hometown I appreciate your musical scholarship Rizz. I gave a listen to "Saxophones," which I had never previously heard, and I liked it. It sounds a bit like something Jim Croce would have done. I'm so glad you know about Irma Thomas, although her prime was before you arrived on the scene. I love her stuff, especially "Wish Someone Would Care" and "Anyone Who Knows What Love Is (Will Understand.)" Unfortunately those songs came out in 1964, when not only The Beatles and the rest of the British Invasion hit our shores, but also Motown began its rise to monstrous proportions. So they got lost in the shuffle. Not her best song, but her best concept, was her early release "You Can Have My Husband (But Don't Mess With My Man.)" I'm impressed that Benny Spellman gets a shout out in a song. He had a few hits -- "Lipstick Traces" and "Fortune Teller" (covered by the Stones), but probably his best-known appearance on a record was as the bass voice on Ernie K-Doe's hit "Mother-In-Law." Two NOLA veterans, and favorites of Paul McCartney, who had them as guest performers a few times with Wings. Frogman Henry and Doctor John both legends. You could chew up a lot of bandwidth just rattling off great musicians from Louisiana. It doesn't have to be Fats Domino or Louis Armstrong-level of great. The Meters, The Neville Brothers, Doug Kershaw, Tommy McLain, Tony Joe White, Huey "Piano" Smith, Chris Kenner, Joe Stampley. How about Cookie and His Cupcakes? Among the originators of Swamp Pop, they had a song called "Mathilda" you may know. I used to play it on my radio show in Santa Fe because we got swamped with requests for it from Hispanics living in Espanola. The Cajun sound was well-liked in that area. Thanks for dredging up some interesting musical history. I miss the days of strong regional music taste when radio stations would give a lot of air time to local artists. In the 1950s and early 60s a guy from Dallas named Gordon McLendon came up with the concept of Top 40 stations, which significantly narrowed the playlists and focused on playing the same songs every few hours. Unfortunately it was quite successful -- the public likes repetition, and Program Directors like exercising control over DJs -- and it made it tougher to get air time for more fringe tastes, at least on the big stations. Recently PBS-TV had a special show on Irma Thomas musical career, including a concert clip with her and The Rolling Stones doing her hit, "Time is on My Side." In all the New Orleans has very rich musical history. If you have PBS Passport app, you may be able to find it. I love baseball and music is my 2nd interest since 1957. Clipper |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Dec 24, 2023 16:38:06 GMT -5
Thanks pipps. Yes, I'm fan of the Yardbirds. It's amazing a band with such a short shelf life could produce three of the greatest guitarist of all time. Yep, everybody knows Clapton, Page and Beck, but only Yardbirds fans know lead vocalist Keith Relf, one of the few rockers I am aware of who died from electrocution. They were ahead of their time, especially with songs like "Over Under Sideways Down" and "Happenings Ten Years Time Ago." A great cover of Howlin Wolf's blues standard "Smokestack Lightning." Their biggest hits "Heartful Of Soul" and "For Your Love" were good too. Early inklings of Zeppelin, which to me sounded revolutionary when they hit the scene. The Yardbirds were ahead of their time, they had just trouble keeping their lead guitarists: original Top Topham, then his replacement Eric Clapton, followed by Jeff Beck and then Jimmy Page. They gave a lot of slack to Jimmy Page, who was still doing studio session work. Losing time to keep up with the times. The association with Pop Music producer Mickey Most was a disaster in the studio in 1967-1968. With the proper management the group could have stayed together, Road Manager Peter Grant showed up too late. By 1968, it was over for the band. Clipper |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 24, 2023 17:06:20 GMT -5
Good stuff Bob. "Darryl's House" was a great show, and that's a solid take on "Backstabbers." A little front time for Oates! I'm sure you saw the episode with Todd Rundgren. He is indeed talented -- he grew up just a few blocks from where Jim Croce lived in Upper Darby (that counts as Philly.) He's done great work in so many different guises -- first with Nazz (the original "Hello It's Me," very different from the later re-doing) and then as Runt ("We Gotta Get You A Woman") and Utopia ("Feet Don't Fail Me Now" was a hilarious early MTV video) plus all the stuff he did as regular old Todd Rundgren. I especially like "I Saw The Light." Hope you don't mind that I "edit" posts I respond to in order to address specifics... Yes...love the "Daryl's House" with Todd Rundgren at his home in Hawaii. You mentioned songs entitled "Cry Baby" & "Cry To Me". Utopia also had a song of the same name, with IMO a terrific chorus. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVBI29aRhNsEdit away. I enjoy the commentary. And that's definitely a different "Cry Baby" than the one done by Garnet Mimms and later covered by Janis Joplin. Todd would have listened to WDAS and WIBG in Philly growing up and would have known that. In the 60s I used to listen to WABC and WINS and WMCA and WWRL out of New York. WABC had the shortest playlist of any major station, but had the legendary DJs Cousin Brucie and Dan Ingram and Scott Muni and Herb Oscar Anderson. WINS I would listen to the Swingin' Soiree with Murray the K. WMCA had "The Good Guys" and WWRL played R&B and had Dr. Jive and Jocko Henderson, who later came to Philly for many years. The glory years of AM radio. |
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 24, 2023 17:11:01 GMT -5
Hope you don't mind that I "edit" posts I respond to in order to address specifics... Yes...love the "Daryl's House" with Todd Rundgren at his home in Hawaii. You mentioned songs entitled "Cry Baby" & "Cry To Me". Utopia also had a song of the same name, with IMO a terrific chorus. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVBI29aRhNsEdit away. I enjoy the commentary. And that's definitely a different "Cry Baby" than the one done by Garnet Mimms and later covered by Janis Joplin. Todd would have listened to WDAS and WIBG in Philly growing up and would have known that. In the 60s I used to listen to WABC and WINS and WMCA and WWRL out of New York. WABC had the shortest playlist of any major station, but had the legendary DJs Cousin Brucie and Dan Ingram and Scott Muni and Herb Oscar Anderson. WINS I would listen to the Swingin' Soiree with Murray the K. WMCA had "The Good Guys" and WWRL played R&B and had Dr. Jive and Jocko Henderson, who later came to Philly for many years. The glory years of AM radio. Pipps, we finally have another poster or two that you can legitimately play "pepper" within the realm of music and music history. I love it!  |
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