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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 3, 2024 19:37:12 GMT -5
Thanks Chi! I will check them out! Oddly enough, as a Doors fan, my favorite is "Touch Me" which IMO, is the least Doors-like song. I think it had to do with what was going on in my life when it was popular. Among their hits, "Touch Me" was probably my favorite after "Light My Fire," which was my introduction to them in the summer of 67. You're right, it's atypical with all the brass. There was a lot of talent in that group beyond Morrison with Manzarek and Krieger and Densmore. Although I think they milked The Doors as far as they could with their post-Morrison efforts "Other Voices" and "American Prayer." Definitely not the same, although admittedly I haven't listened to those in decades. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 3, 2024 19:42:48 GMT -5
We were listening to the same stuff. I don't suppose you had The Electric Prunes album from a few years earlier? Early psychedelia. "I Had Too Much To Dream Last Night" and "Get Me To The World On Time." Lots of pretentious stuff on the liner notes, something along the lines of "Hail to thee, Electric Prunes" or some such nonsense. Harmless fun. Know "The Electric Prunes'...didn't have the album. Coincidentally...I "met" someone who was close to Don (Agrati) Grady thru the old MLB Yankee Message Board. We were able to get together at a Yankee-Angels game in Anaheim and swap baseball/music related stories. A good guy. It's funny how the birth name was Agrati, and Don used Grady for his stage name and his sister Lani (of "Eight Is Enough") used O'Grady as her stage name. They sort of coordinated but not exactly. How I loved Lani O'Grady's husky voice! Such a sad ending for her. I know that Don Grady would often employ disguises when he performed with Yellow Balloon. He was still playing Robby Douglas on "My Three Sons" at the time. Any anecdotes warmly welcomed. |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jan 3, 2024 19:51:25 GMT -5
Good memories! And of course I love Riders on the Storm and The End (from Apocalypse Now). Both well over six minutes long. The AM stations back then always played the edited "shortened" version of anything over 3 minutes, including "Light My Fire" and "In A Gadda Da Vida" Both of songs had the songs that were edited down, to fit the time requirements for AM airplay. One of 1st long songs on AM Radio was in 1964 with The Animals, "The House of the Rising Sun." Clipper |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 3, 2024 19:56:14 GMT -5
Yeah Max, it seemed to disappear from oldies playlists very quickly. I still have his album "Son Of Rock And Roll." You probably know that his father Johnny was an early rocker who did hard-hitting Rockabilly before turning commercial with hits like "Dreamin'" and "You're Sixteen." Great topic and I hope others chime in. No, I didn't know Johnny is his father. I'm learning a lot on this thread. There's a lot of musical knowledge among our posters, greatly enhanced by the cohort of you all who came over from the YES board. I'm constantly learning new things here, plus it's interesting to see what people like and why they like it. To beat an almost dead horse, Rocky Burnette's Uncle Dorsey Burnette also had several early rock hits, including "There Was A Tall Oak Tree" and "Hey Little One," which a few years later became Glen Campbell's first chart single. Both Johnny and Dorsey died very young -- Dorsey at 46 and Johnny in a boating accident at age 30. Dorsey's son Billy has also had success as a guitarist and songwriter and often worked as a sideman with Fleetwood Mac. After Dorsey's death, a lot of his musical friends did a benefit concert for his widow, who was not left well-off. Among the performers were Glen Campbell, Kris Kristofferson, Hoyt Axton, Roger Miller, Tanya Tucker, Duane Eddy and Delaney& Bonnie. He influenced a lot of performers, although he was not that well-known himself. Johnny and Dorsey wrote a couple of Rick Nelson's early hits like "It's Late" and "Believe What You Say." |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 3, 2024 19:57:47 GMT -5
The AM stations back then always played the edited "shortened" version of anything over 3 minutes, including "Light My Fire" and "In A Gadda Da Vida" Both of songs had the songs that were edited down, to fit the time requirements for AM airplay. One of 1st long songs on AM Radio was in 1964 with The Animals, "The House of the Rising Sun." Clipper "House of the Rising Son" was simply cut short, as was "Like A Rolling Stone".... |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 3, 2024 19:59:23 GMT -5
The AM stations back then always played the edited "shortened" version of anything over 3 minutes, including "Light My Fire" and "In A Gadda Da Vida" Both of songs had the songs that were edited down, to fit the time requirements for AM airplay. One of 1st long songs on AM Radio was in 1964 with The Animals, "The House of the Rising Sun." Clipper Yep, songs have generally been in the 2-3 minute timeframe since the invention of the 78 rpm, which couldn't hold much more time than that on a side. People have been more or less trained to use that as a framework. I do know there were some records that would deliberately understate their time to avoid being cut out of radio programming. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 3, 2024 20:01:32 GMT -5
Can't forget other scary classics, like "Devil Woman" by Cliff Richard and "Season of the Witch" by Donavon. "I Put A Spell On You" and "Little Demon" both by Screamin Jay Hawkins. Thanks for the shout out to Screamin' Jay Hawkins. Are you familiar with his "Constipation Blues"? It's a hoot. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 3, 2024 20:05:02 GMT -5
Oddly enough, as a Doors fan, my favorite is "Touch Me" which IMO, is the least Doors-like song. I think it had to do with what was going on in my life when it was popular. Among their hits, "Touch Me" was probably my favorite after "Light My Fire," which was my introduction to them in the summer of 67. You're right, it's atypical with all the brass. There was a lot of talent in that group beyond Morrison with Manzarek and Krieger and Densmore. Although I think they milked The Doors as far as they could with their post-Morrison efforts "Other Voices" and "American Prayer." Definitely not the same, although admittedly I haven't listened to those in decades. The Doors also did a great cover of "Back Door Man" but my favorite Door's song is probably "Roadhouse Blues" that starts off the "Morrison Hotel" album, a fast paced and fun song. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 3, 2024 20:05:39 GMT -5
Both of songs had the songs that were edited down, to fit the time requirements for AM airplay. One of 1st long songs on AM Radio was in 1964 with The Animals, "The House of the Rising Sun." Clipper Yep, songs have generally been in the 2-3 minute timeframe since the invention of the 78 rpm, which couldn't hold much more time than that on a side. People have been more or less trained to use that as a framework. I do know there were some records that would deliberately understate their time to avoid being cut out of radio programming. As far as I know, "Stay" by Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs was the shortest song to get airplay at 1:51. Four Seasons redo kept it under 2:00. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 3, 2024 20:08:56 GMT -5
The AM stations back then always played the edited "shortened" version of anything over 3 minutes, including "Light My Fire" and "In A Gadda Da Vida" Both of songs had the songs that were edited down, to fit the time requirements for AM airplay. One of 1st long songs on AM Radio was in 1964 with The Animals, "The House of the Rising Sun." Clipper Reminds me of the lyrics to Billy Joel's "The Entertainer": "It was a beautiful song but it ran too long If you're gonna have a hit you gotta make it fit So they cut it down to 3:05" |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 3, 2024 20:31:36 GMT -5
Yep, songs have generally been in the 2-3 minute timeframe since the invention of the 78 rpm, which couldn't hold much more time than that on a side. People have been more or less trained to use that as a framework. I do know there were some records that would deliberately understate their time to avoid being cut out of radio programming. As far as I know, "Stay" by Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs was the shortest song to get airplay at 1:51. Four Seasons redo kept it under 2:00. Maybe it's unfair to include instrumentals, but Duane Eddy's "Some Kinda Earthquake" clocked in at a meteoric 1:17 and made the Billboard Top 40 (peaked at 37) in 1959. DJs loved that one when they were up against the top of the hour and had to cram something in. I remember that Seasons re-make, which was pretty good I thought. It was one of the songs Vee Jay released in 1964 after they had left that label and gone to Philips. Vee Jay also released their version of "Alone" before giving up. Do you remember the Four Seasons last release before they left for Philips, a double-sided "That's The Only Way" and "New Mexican Rose?" Not many people remember that, and I don't know that it was ever on an album, at least not in that era, maybe on a later compilation. Their first release with Philips in early 64 was "Dawn," coming out right around when The Beatles were about to strike. |
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Post by inger on Jan 3, 2024 20:40:37 GMT -5
Yep, songs have generally been in the 2-3 minute timeframe since the invention of the 78 rpm, which couldn't hold much more time than that on a side. People have been more or less trained to use that as a framework. I do know there were some records that would deliberately understate their time to avoid being cut out of radio programming. As far as I know, "Stay" by Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs was the shortest song to get airplay at 1:51. Four Seasons redo kept it under 2:00. l Not so fast Bison Breath. “The Letter” by <The BoxTops> clocked in at a quick and easy 1:50… and hit #1… 🤓 |
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Post by inger on Jan 3, 2024 20:41:46 GMT -5
I believe Elvis’ had 2-3 under the 2:00 mark…
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 3, 2024 20:44:27 GMT -5
As far as I know, "Stay" by Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs was the shortest song to get airplay at 1:51. Four Seasons redo kept it under 2:00. l Not so fast Bison Breath. “The Letter” by <The BoxTops> clocked in at a quick and easy 1:50… and hit #1… 🤓 LOL..."Stay" was actually 1:38. I'M THE WINNER!!!! |
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Post by inger on Jan 3, 2024 20:48:11 GMT -5
l Not so fast Bison Breath. “The Letter” by <The BoxTops> clocked in at a quick and easy 1:50… and hit #1… 🤓 LOL..."Stay" was actually 1:38. I'M THE WINNER!!!! That one was a quickie… I actually could still see my old Box Tops record with the blue label where it said 1:50 on it… I didn’t know whether to feel like I had been cheated or not. Play a few more notes before the fade out, guys!… |
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