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Post by Renfield on Mar 9, 2024 14:33:39 GMT -5
That was true the five years that I lived in Chicago. I can’t imagine not owning a car, but then again I can’t imagine living in a city, either. I get the heebie jeebies just imagining living within the limits of a small town. Did you bicycle around, walk, take taxis? Teleport? … Sounds like you're Ready for the Country.
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Post by chiyankee on Mar 9, 2024 15:02:33 GMT -5
That was true the five years that I lived in Chicago. I can’t imagine not owning a car, but then again I can’t imagine living in a city, either. I get the heebie jeebies just imagining living within the limits of a small town. Did you bicycle around, walk, take taxis? Teleport? … I rode my bike a lot when the weather was nice. I used the L, Chicago's version of the subway to commute to work. If we went out at night and the destination was too far to walk, we took cabs. My roommate and later my girlfriend (future wife) both had cars.
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 9, 2024 15:11:16 GMT -5
I can’t imagine not owning a car, but then again I can’t imagine living in a city, either. I get the heebie jeebies just imagining living within the limits of a small town. Did you bicycle around, walk, take taxis? Teleport? … I rode my bike a lot when the weather was nice. I used the L, Chicago's version of the subway to commute to work. If we went out at night and the destination was too far to walk, we took cabs. My roommate and later my girlfriend (future wife) both had cars. Not at all uncommon for urban dwellers to not own a car. Little need to take on expenses of car ownership, including very expensive parking rates in most major cities.
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Post by chiyankee on Mar 9, 2024 15:14:57 GMT -5
I rode my bike a lot when the weather was nice. I used the L, Chicago's version of the subway to commute to work. If we went out at night and the destination was too far to walk, we took cabs. My roommate and later my girlfriend (future wife) both had cars. Not at all uncommon for urban dwellers to not own a car. Little need to take on expenses of car ownership, including very expensive parking rates in most major cities. Parking and making your through local Chicago traffic is just aggravating. It just wasn't worth it, so I sold my beloved Honda Prelude. It's a good thing my wife also had a Prelude when we got married.
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 9, 2024 15:24:30 GMT -5
Not at all uncommon for urban dwellers to not own a car. Little need to take on expenses of car ownership, including very expensive parking rates in most major cities. Parking and making your through local Chicago traffic is just aggravating. It just wasn't worth it, so I sold my beloved Honda Prelude. It's a good thing my wife also had a Prelude when we got married. I'm familiar with Chicago traffic. My wife is from Chicago, & most of her family is still there in the city, the northern suburbs and southern Wisconsin. Like everything else, there are pluses and minuses to living downtown in a large city, like being able to walk or take public transportation to restaurants, entertainment venues, etc.
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Post by chiyankee on Mar 9, 2024 15:45:33 GMT -5
Parking and making your through local Chicago traffic is just aggravating. It just wasn't worth it, so I sold my beloved Honda Prelude. It's a good thing my wife also had a Prelude when we got married. I'm familiar with Chicago traffic. My wife is from Chicago, & most of her family is still there in the city, the northern suburbs and southern Wisconsin. Like everything else, there are pluses and minuses to living downtown in a large city, like being able to walk or take public transportation to restaurants, entertainment venues, etc. I really enjoyed living in the city. I moved there from a real small town in the country/valley section on Pennsylvania, so it was a complete 180 from what I was used to. I just wished I had more money at the time.
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 9, 2024 17:35:53 GMT -5
I'm familiar with Chicago traffic. My wife is from Chicago, & most of her family is still there in the city, the northern suburbs and southern Wisconsin. Like everything else, there are pluses and minuses to living downtown in a large city, like being able to walk or take public transportation to restaurants, entertainment venues, etc. I really enjoyed living in the city. I moved there from a real small town in the country/valley section on Pennsylvania, so it was a complete 180 from what I was used to. I just wished I had more money at the time. Our oldest son lived in Chicago while working for a financial company and attending Loyola for his Masters. Our nephew, a huge Cubs fan, lived in Wrigleyville while teaching in Chicago schools. Both really enjoyed their time there, but have since moved on to suburban and rural areas.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 9, 2024 20:06:43 GMT -5
I'm familiar with Chicago traffic. My wife is from Chicago, & most of her family is still there in the city, the northern suburbs and southern Wisconsin. Like everything else, there are pluses and minuses to living downtown in a large city, like being able to walk or take public transportation to restaurants, entertainment venues, etc. I really enjoyed living in the city. I moved there from a real small town in the country/valley section on Pennsylvania, so it was a complete 180 from what I was used to. I just wished I had more money at the time. More money is good any old time. But especially in a large city, where you need more of it if you want to Live The Life. We moved from LA, where your value as a human being is largely determined by the car you drive and where people live in fear of being mocked by the valet at the restaurant, to NYC, where owning a car is a useless extravagance. We kept a car for about the first two months we lived there -- I hadn't been without one since the age of 16 -- paying more to garage it than I had paid to rent an apartment 20 years earlier. You quickly learn it's much cheaper to rent a car when you need to go out of town. As you guys noted, it's very easy to get around using public transportation or especially by walking. You burn a lot of shoe leather (and calories) just doing everyday things. I loved that part of it. When it's being properly administered -- never a sure thing -- Chicago is such a great city. Even a beautiful city in some respects. I always thought that along with New York and San Francisco, it was one of the three great cities of international stature in the US.
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 9, 2024 20:15:42 GMT -5
Chicago is such a great city. Even a beautiful city in some respects. I always thought that along with New York and San Francisco, it was one of the three great cities of international stature in the US. NYC skyline is iconic but, IMO, Chicago's is much more impressive.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 9, 2024 20:23:23 GMT -5
NY skyline is iconic but, IMO, Chicago's is much more impressive. I think you can get better overall looks at Chicago's. From the lake of course it's breath-taking. So many tall ones in NYC it's like trees competing for sunlight in a forest. Still, any kind of aerial view of the Apple, with all of the bridges and varieties of architecture, is a thing of beauty. I remember many years ago National Geographic having such a shot with the caption "Skyscraper National Park." But so many elite architects have worked in Chicago, and the results are evident.
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 9, 2024 20:30:49 GMT -5
NY skyline is iconic but, IMO, Chicago's is much more impressive. I think you can get better overall looks at Chicago's. From the lake of course it's breath-taking. So many tall ones in NYC it's like trees competing for sunlight in a forest. Still, any kind of aerial view of the Apple, with all of the bridges and varieties of architecture, is a thing of beauty. I remember many years ago National Geographic having such a shot with the caption "Skyscraper National Park." But so many elite architects have worked in Chicago, and the results are evident. I think Chicago is known worldwide for its architecture. My wife's extended family in Germany came to Chicago not only to visit family, but also specifically to view the architecture. There have been a few times flying into LaGuardia when the approach gave us a bird's eye view of Manhattan. Awesome...like the opening to West Side Story.
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Post by fwclipper51 on Mar 9, 2024 21:40:42 GMT -5
That sounds like an interesting duo. You going? … It does seem like somewhat of an odd pairing. Although perhaps not as odd as some of these, opening act listed first: Jimi Hendrix/Monkees -- 1967 The Who/Hermans Hermits -- 1967 Lynyrd Skynyrd/Queen -- 1974 Bruce Springsteen/Anne Murray -- 1974 The Ramones/Toto -- 1979 You can add this to your list Bruce Springsteen opening for Chicago. As for The Who opening for Herman Hermits, this was their 1st tour of the states. They already had appeared with Murray the K's Easter show in NYC, doing 20 minute sets of their single hits, My Generation, Happy Jack, Kids are Alright and others songs.
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Post by Max on Mar 10, 2024 12:39:00 GMT -5
NY skyline is iconic but, IMO, Chicago's is much more impressive. I think you can get better overall looks at Chicago's. From the lake of course it's breath-taking. So many tall ones in NYC it's like trees competing for sunlight in a forest. Still, any kind of aerial view of the Apple, with all of the bridges and varieties of architecture, is a thing of beauty. I remember many years ago National Geographic having such a shot with the caption "Skyscraper National Park." But so many elite architects have worked in Chicago, and the results are evident. NYC's skyline as you know is huge. A downtown Manhattan skyline plus a Midtown Manhattan skyline.
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Post by Max on Mar 10, 2024 12:44:06 GMT -5
NY skyline is iconic but, IMO, Chicago's is much more impressive. I think you can get better overall looks at Chicago's. From the lake of course it's breath-taking. So many tall ones in NYC it's like trees competing for sunlight in a forest. Still, any kind of aerial view of the Apple, with all of the bridges and varieties of architecture, is a thing of beauty. I remember many years ago National Geographic having such a shot with the caption "Skyscraper National Park." The oldest bridge (Brooklyn Bridge) is still my favorite bridge.
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 10, 2024 18:58:38 GMT -5
I think you can get better overall looks at Chicago's. From the lake of course it's breath-taking. So many tall ones in NYC it's like trees competing for sunlight in a forest. Still, any kind of aerial view of the Apple, with all of the bridges and varieties of architecture, is a thing of beauty. I remember many years ago National Geographic having such a shot with the caption "Skyscraper National Park." The oldest bridge (Brooklyn Bridge) is still my favorite bridge. That's a work of art. The bridge version of a Gothic Cathedral, with the pointed arches and the wire rope like the vaulting. New York City has so many great bridges, but the Brooklyn Bridge still stands out. It's neighbor the Manhattan Bridge is another beauty, and gives great views of the BB. I also really like the 80-years-younger Verrazzano Narrows Bridge, with its swooping lines. Unfortunately, there's no pedestrian walkway on the Verrazzano. When we lived in NYC, we made a point to walk across every bridge that was pedestrian accessible. Which actually is many of them -- in addition to the BB and MB, you can walk across the Williamsburg Bridge, the 59th Street Bridge, the George Washington Bridge (of course then you're stuck in Fort Lee), the Triborough Bridge and some of the smaller ones like the Henry Hudson Bridge, the City Island Bridge, the Macombs Dam Bridge (between Yankee Stadium and the Polo Grounds site), the Wards Island Bridge, the Pulaski Bridge and the Roosevelt Island Bridge. Roosevelt Island is one part of NYC I did not like at all. At least then, it seemed kind of dark and creepy and not really a part of the city. You can't walk the Throgs Neck or the Bronx Whitestone or the Outerbridge Crossing and a few others. To me it's between the Brooklyn Bridge and the Golden Gate Bridge for the most beautiful in the US. I think I prefer the design of the Brooklyn Bridge, but the setting of the Golden Gate Bridge can't be beat. But both are gorgeous. The wire cables used on the Golden Gate Bridge (and also the GWB) were made by Roebling and Sons, a company that went back to John Roebling, who designed the Brooklyn Bridge. The Sunshine Skyway connecting St. Petersburg to Bradenton is another great one, as is the Coronado Bridge from San Diego to Coronado Island and the Mackinac Bridge over Lake Superior in Michigan. But there are dozens of great ones -- Pittsburgh especially has a lot of them. Since this is a music thread, I am sure many of you remember the group The Brooklyn Bridge, led by Johnny Maestro formerly of The Crests ("Sixteen Candles.") "Worst That Could Happen" was their big hit from early 1969. They had a few others like "Welcome Me Love" and "Blessed Is The Rain" and a few more. Just to tie in the bridge talk with music.
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