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Post by inger on May 13, 2024 1:46:29 GMT -5
This is a really knowledgeable board. Flaco Jimenez, Augie Meyers, Doug Sahm and Freddie Fender, I loved the Texas Tornados. Flaco Jimenez is a legend! As big as Bigfoot?… |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 13, 2024 8:25:26 GMT -5
Happy 76th birthday to the great Steve Winwood. Multi-instrumentalist and a great singer/song writer. From the first time I heard “Can’t Find My Way Home” to the album from 1986 that I wore out the cassette tape “Back In The High Life Again,” Winwood has been on my mind’s playlist. To think that he was only 14 years old when he joined The Spencer Davis Group proves what a genius he is. “Gimme Some Lovin” remains a landmark rock and roll song. "Gimme Some Lovin'" and "I'm A Man" both came out during my senior year in high school. I assumed that this Spencer Davis guy was a young black kid from the American South. Well first I found out that the artist in question was not black, not American (although he was young) and then later learned that it was not Spencer Davis but Stevie (as he was known at the time) Winwood. Since he wrote, sang lead vocals and played a dominant keyboard on both songs, it's not hard to understand why he wanted to move on from such relative anonymity. (BTW Mike Smith had a somewhat similar issue with the Dave Clark Five, but he stayed around and took his allowance from Clark.) But kudos to Spencer Davis for recognizing the talent of Winwood from what would essentially be his middle school years. I whole-heartedly agree with all of the accolades. Not that I am qualified to make such a judgment, but I believe Steve Winwood is on the very short list of most talented artists of the rock era. He's in the R&R HOF as a member of Traffic, which is fine, but it seems to me that he made even more impact as a solo artist. Those albums from "Arc Of A Diver" to "Talking Back To The Night" to "Back In The High Life Again" were gems. Writes them all, plays all the instruments, and records it from his home. Ridiculous. I don't think he is capable of making a bad song. Definitely a prodigy -- how are you backing touring artists like Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf and Bo Diddley during your sophomore/junior years in high school? I guess he had plenty to talk about during lunch at school on Monday. And not that I especially follow such things, but he seems very low key and stable in his private life. |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 13, 2024 9:02:01 GMT -5
Wow, I never knew Doug Sahm was such a baseball guy. Hard to believe he's been gone for almost 25 years. Obviously a function of age, but my association for Sahm is mainly Sir Douglas Quintet, although I am certainly aware of the Texas Tornados (I watched Austin City Limits back in the day.) "She's About A Mover" was a big hit in 1965 and is one of my all-time earworm songs. Irresistible rhythm and organ riff that maximizes the use of three chords. We all assumed they were one more British Invasion band -- and they deliberately tried to give that impression, because at that time it probably helped add a few hundred thousand record sales. I don't know of anyone besides myself who bought their follow-up to "Mover" which was the very similar "The Tracker" on the illustrious Tribe label. Maybe a few of their family members bought copies to get it to number 105 on the Billboard charts. "The Rains Came" was a modest hit for SDQ, then they disappeared for a few years before hitting it big with "Mendocino" ("where life's such a groove you'll blow your mind every morning.") That song put Mendocino on my bucket list once I realized it was an actual place and it was my first overnight trip from Santa Clara after I moved there in 1972. Beautiful! It's hard to mention Doug Sahm without mentioning his partner in crime Augie Meyers, who is still living. He was one of the first rock keyboardists to feature the Vox Continental organ which gave SDQ's early songs that distinctive sound. The only one I know before it was Alan Price in "House Of The Rising Sun" which was released in 1964. It was also used in such memorable hooks as ""96 Tears" and "Light My Fire" and "In A Gadda Da Vida" and I'm sure plenty of others. This is a really knowledgeable board. Flaco Jimenez, Augie Meyers, Doug Sahm and Freddie Fender, I loved the Texas Tornados. Well you're a major contributor to that knowledge 55. When we moved to Santa Fe in the fall of 1986, we were having a house built and lived in temporary quarters for about three months in a condo complex called Cielo Grande just north of town. We discovered when we arrived that we were literally the only people staying there who were not part of the cast and crew of a now-forgotten movie called "The Milagro Beanfield War." Freddy Fender, who played a sheriff in that film, lived directly beneath us. Most of the cast and crew were up and out by early in the morning for filming in Las Truchas and generally didn't come back until evening, so we didn't see them that often. But now and then we could hear Freddy playing guitar (acoustic) and singing. Never obtrusive, never at 3 AM, never part of some big party, just quietly doing his thing. I told my wife that I wasn't going to be the one to go knock on his door and ask him to keep it down. And no, I never heard him doing "Wasted Days And Wasted Nights"; in fact, you had to listen closely to even notice. Any time we saw him he was wearing a huge fur coat. He was always affable and would give a wave after he got used to seeing us. Some of the other cast members we saw living there were Christopher Walken, Sonia Braga and Ruben Blades. Melanie Griffith was in the film but I don't think she was staying there. Robert Redford was the director and he had rented a big home a few miles north. We never saw him, but one time we did see his Porsche parked in the lot. Missed him by that much. The first time we went to pay our rent, I made some joking apology to the manager about being such an anonymous tenant. He said to the contrary we were great because we were the only ones who paid on time and who he didn't have to constantly badger a production company in Los Angeles to try to get his money. Obviously the cast itself wasn't individually writing out checks, but it was a hassle for the condo. Rizz, it's okay if you forego the "degrees of separation" meme. I just couldn't resist blurting out my only Freddy Fender story. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on May 13, 2024 9:34:48 GMT -5
This is a really knowledgeable board. Flaco Jimenez, Augie Meyers, Doug Sahm and Freddie Fender, I loved the Texas Tornados. Well you're a major contributor to that knowledge 55. When we moved to Santa Fe in the fall of 1986, we were having a house built and lived in temporary quarters for about three months in a condo complex called Cielo Grande just north of town. We discovered when we arrived that we were literally the only people staying there who were not part of the cast and crew of a now-forgotten movie called "The Milagro Beanfield War." Freddy Fender, who played a sheriff in that film, lived directly beneath us. Most of the cast and crew were up and out by early in the morning for filming in Las Truchas and generally didn't come back until evening, so we didn't see them that often. But now and then we could hear Freddy playing guitar (acoustic) and singing. Never obtrusive, never at 3 AM, never part of some big party, just quietly doing his thing. I told my wife that I wasn't going to be the one to go knock on his door and ask him to keep it down. And no, I never heard him doing "Wasted Days And Wasted Nights"; in fact, you had to listen closely to even notice. Any time we saw him he was wearing a huge fur coat. He was always affable and would give a wave after he got used to seeing us. Some of the other cast members we saw living there were Christopher Walken, Sonia Braga and Ruben Blades. Melanie Griffith was in the film but I don't think she was staying there. Robert Redford was the director and he had rented a big home a few miles north. We never saw him, but one time we did see his Porsche parked in the lot. Missed him by that much. The first time we went to pay our rent, I made some joking apology to the manager about being such an anonymous tenant. He said to the contrary we were great because we were the only ones who paid on time and who he didn't have to constantly badger a production company in Los Angeles to try to get his money. Obviously the cast itself wasn't individually writing out checks, but it was a hassle for the condo. Rizz, it's okay if you forego the "degrees of separation" meme. I just couldn't resist blurting out my only Freddy Fender story. That's a great story, thanks for sharing. |
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Post by bomberhojoe on May 13, 2024 9:53:32 GMT -5
This is a really knowledgeable board. Flaco Jimenez, Augie Meyers, Doug Sahm and Freddie Fender, I loved the Texas Tornados. Well you're a major contributor to that knowledge 55. When we moved to Santa Fe in the fall of 1986, we were having a house built and lived in temporary quarters for about three months in a condo complex called Cielo Grande just north of town. We discovered when we arrived that we were literally the only people staying there who were not part of the cast and crew of a now-forgotten movie called "The Milagro Beanfield War." Freddy Fender, who played a sheriff in that film, lived directly beneath us. Most of the cast and crew were up and out by early in the morning for filming in Las Truchas and generally didn't come back until evening, so we didn't see them that often. But now and then we could hear Freddy playing guitar (acoustic) and singing. Never obtrusive, never at 3 AM, never part of some big party, just quietly doing his thing. I told my wife that I wasn't going to be the one to go knock on his door and ask him to keep it down. And no, I never heard him doing "Wasted Days And Wasted Nights"; in fact, you had to listen closely to even notice. Any time we saw him he was wearing a huge fur coat. He was always affable and would give a wave after he got used to seeing us. Some of the other cast members we saw living there were Christopher Walken, Sonia Braga and Ruben Blades. Melanie Griffith was in the film but I don't think she was staying there. Robert Redford was the director and he had rented a big home a few miles north. We never saw him, but one time we did see his Porsche parked in the lot. Missed him by that much.The first time we went to pay our rent, I made some joking apology to the manager about being such an anonymous tenant. He said to the contrary we were great because we were the only ones who paid on time and who he didn't have to constantly badger a production company in Los Angeles to try to get his money. Obviously the cast itself wasn't individually writing out checks, but it was a hassle for the condo. Rizz, it's okay if you forego the "degrees of separation" meme. I just couldn't resist blurting out my only Freddy Fender story. |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 13, 2024 10:03:06 GMT -5
Well you're a major contributor to that knowledge 55. When we moved to Santa Fe in the fall of 1986, we were having a house built and lived in temporary quarters for about three months in a condo complex called Cielo Grande just north of town. We discovered when we arrived that we were literally the only people staying there who were not part of the cast and crew of a now-forgotten movie called "The Milagro Beanfield War." Freddy Fender, who played a sheriff in that film, lived directly beneath us. Most of the cast and crew were up and out by early in the morning for filming in Las Truchas and generally didn't come back until evening, so we didn't see them that often. But now and then we could hear Freddy playing guitar (acoustic) and singing. Never obtrusive, never at 3 AM, never part of some big party, just quietly doing his thing. I told my wife that I wasn't going to be the one to go knock on his door and ask him to keep it down. And no, I never heard him doing "Wasted Days And Wasted Nights"; in fact, you had to listen closely to even notice. Any time we saw him he was wearing a huge fur coat. He was always affable and would give a wave after he got used to seeing us. Some of the other cast members we saw living there were Christopher Walken, Sonia Braga and Ruben Blades. Melanie Griffith was in the film but I don't think she was staying there. Robert Redford was the director and he had rented a big home a few miles north. We never saw him, but one time we did see his Porsche parked in the lot. Missed him by that much.The first time we went to pay our rent, I made some joking apology to the manager about being such an anonymous tenant. He said to the contrary we were great because we were the only ones who paid on time and who he didn't have to constantly badger a production company in Los Angeles to try to get his money. Obviously the cast itself wasn't individually writing out checks, but it was a hassle for the condo. Rizz, it's okay if you forego the "degrees of separation" meme. I just couldn't resist blurting out my only Freddy Fender story. Yeah, that's who I was thinking of when I said that. That show had some great shtik, like the various "would you believe" routines. Max insisting that the Chief use the cone of silence. Agent 99 Barbara Feldon is still alive at age 91. |
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Post by rizzuto on May 13, 2024 12:24:06 GMT -5
This is a really knowledgeable board. Flaco Jimenez, Augie Meyers, Doug Sahm and Freddie Fender, I loved the Texas Tornados. Well you're a major contributor to that knowledge 55. When we moved to Santa Fe in the fall of 1986, we were having a house built and lived in temporary quarters for about three months in a condo complex called Cielo Grande just north of town. We discovered when we arrived that we were literally the only people staying there who were not part of the cast and crew of a now-forgotten movie called "The Milagro Beanfield War." Freddy Fender, who played a sheriff in that film, lived directly beneath us. Most of the cast and crew were up and out by early in the morning for filming in Las Truchas and generally didn't come back until evening, so we didn't see them that often. But now and then we could hear Freddy playing guitar (acoustic) and singing. Never obtrusive, never at 3 AM, never part of some big party, just quietly doing his thing. I told my wife that I wasn't going to be the one to go knock on his door and ask him to keep it down. And no, I never heard him doing "Wasted Days And Wasted Nights"; in fact, you had to listen closely to even notice. Any time we saw him he was wearing a huge fur coat. He was always affable and would give a wave after he got used to seeing us. Some of the other cast members we saw living there were Christopher Walken, Sonia Braga and Ruben Blades. Melanie Griffith was in the film but I don't think she was staying there. Robert Redford was the director and he had rented a big home a few miles north. We never saw him, but one time we did see his Porsche parked in the lot. Missed him by that much. The first time we went to pay our rent, I made some joking apology to the manager about being such an anonymous tenant. He said to the contrary we were great because we were the only ones who paid on time and who he didn't have to constantly badger a production company in Los Angeles to try to get his money. Obviously the cast itself wasn't individually writing out checks, but it was a hassle for the condo. Rizz, it's okay if you forego the "degrees of separation" meme. I just couldn't resist blurting out my only Freddy Fender story. "When the legend become fact, print the legend." Something you never have to worry about, Pipps! They are one and the same! Keep them coming! |
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Post by rizzuto on May 13, 2024 12:25:27 GMT -5
Flaco Jimenez is a legend! As big as Bigfoot?… As far as I know, Bigfoot never played the accordion. I always imagined him with a lute. |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 15, 2024 9:08:07 GMT -5
John Barbata, drummer for The Turtles and later CSN&Y (individually and collectively) and Jefferson Airplane/Starship, has died at age 79. He was born in Passaic NJ and moved as a teenager with his family to the LA area. He did a lot of session work as well for the likes of Linda Ronstadt, Johnny Rivers, Joni Mitchell, Leon Russell and Doctor John.
He replaced Turtles founding member and drummer Don Murray about midway through their long run of hits, starting with "Happy Together" and on through "She'd Rather Be With Me" and "You Baby" and "Elenore" and many others. He replaced Dallas Taylor as drummer for CSN&Y starting with the "Four Way Street" album and performed on solo albums for all of them. He was with Airplane for its final album and with Starship for most of their big hits, including "Miracles."
He was a pretty good showman with those sticks, adding to the generally upbeat aura of The Turtles. One thing I remember about him was showing his disgust for the band being forced to lip-synch "She'd Rather Be With Me" on "The Ed Sullivan Show" by hitting his head with a stick where a cowbell came in. Not as blatant as Michelle Philips eating a banana while she was supposed to be singing, but still pretty good.
I found a pretty good quote from his memoir about his gratitude for what he had. After saying that he had made a lot of money just by doing what he loved to do, he added "I met a lot of great people, learned a lot of hard lessons and eventually met the woman of my dreams."
RIP John Barbata.
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Post by bomberhojoe on May 15, 2024 9:24:34 GMT -5
As far as I know, Bigfoot never played the accordion. I always imagined him with a lute. Saxophone!   |
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Post by fwclipper51 on May 16, 2024 16:40:41 GMT -5
On May, 1966, The Beach Boys would release their classic "Pet Sounds" album.
 Also on that day, Bob Dylan would release his classic "Blonde on Blonde" album.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on May 16, 2024 17:34:35 GMT -5
On May, 1966, The Beach Boys would release their classic "Pet Sounds" album.
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Post by azbob643 on May 16, 2024 17:39:32 GMT -5
On May, 1966, The Beach Boys would release their classic "Pet Sounds" album.
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Post by pippsheadache on May 17, 2024 11:37:39 GMT -5
On May, 1966, The Beach Boys would release their classic "Pet Sounds" album.
View Attachment Also on that day, Bob Dylan would release his classic "Blonde on Blonde" album.
View Attachment Still have both albums and still enjoy listening to them. Like you 55, I am a hardcore Beach Boys fan, and I too have both of those albums and still listen to them. However, in this case I might have to agree at least partially with azbob, who I know is not a particular fan of the BBs. I do think "Pet Sounds" is to this day somewhat over-rated by critics, maybe in part because musically it was obviously much more complex than the Beach Boys earlier output and had that "song cycle" thing going on that The Beatles picked up a year later with "Sgt. Pepper." I do like the four songs on PS that were released as singles -- "Sloop John B," which I think is among their best (and Brian Wilson did not want it on the album, but Capitol insisted because it had been a hit and had not been on an LP), the two-sided hit they would release that summer "God Only Knows" and "Wouldn't It Be Nice" and Brian's mournful and moving solo effort "Caroline, No." I really like all of those. But the rest of the album to me does not hold up all that well. Hey, that's just me, we all have different ideas and I never get upset if somebody likes or doesn't like something different from me. My favorite albums from the Boys were their two predecessors to "Pet Sounds" which were "The Beach Boys Today" and "Summer Days and Summer Nights." (I'm not counting "Beach Boys Party" which Capitol slapped together as a throwaway placeholder while Brian was suffering over PS.) Those two albums definitely moved in a more sophisticated direction but without making a complete break from the sound that put them on the map in the first place. I would bet you have them as well -- in fact I remember you saying that "The Beach Boys Today" was the first album you bought -- a great place to begin! Especially those ballads on side two, starting with "Please Let Me Wonder" and "Kiss Me Baby." If I may indulge because I love this topic -- I have a very specific memory of buying "Pet Sounds" as soon as it was released in May of 1966. As I always did with any Beach Boys, Beatles, Rolling Stones or Byrds album, I bought all of them as soon as they were available. I got it at a regional department store chain called Almart, and I got it at the same time I got two other fine LPs that had recently come out, "Aftermath" by the Stones (had "Paint It, Black" and "Mother's Little Helper" and "Stupid Girl" and "Lady Jane") and "If You Can Believe Your Eyes And Ears" by The Mamas and The Papas (which had Michelle Philips sprawled in a bathtub on the cover, albeit fully clothed.) As I was leaving the store, a cute girl who was a classmate of mine came in, and we just had the nicest long talk about music and other less substantive issues. It didn't exactly lead to a romance, but it was a sweet moment that I always remembered. About 40 years after we graduated from high school we re-connected on Facebook. She invited me and my wife to visit her at her place near Cooperstown. It was a wonderful visit, and she actually brought up our long-ago talk spurred by "Pet Sounds." We remain in touch -- for the record my wife is friends with her too -- so I do give the album props for that. |
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Post by inger on May 17, 2024 11:49:23 GMT -5
Still have both albums and still enjoy listening to them. Like you 55, I am a hardcore Beach Boys fan, and I too have both of those albums and still listen to them. However, in this case I might have to agree at least partially with azbob, who I know is not a particular fan of the BBs. I do think "Pet Sounds" is to this day somewhat over-rated by critics, maybe in part because musically it was obviously much more complex than the Beach Boys earlier output and had that "song cycle" thing going on that The Beatles picked up a year later with "Sgt. Pepper." I do like the four songs on PS that were released as singles -- "Sloop John B," which I think is among their best (and Brian Wilson did not want it on the album, but Capitol insisted because it had been a hit and had not been on an LP), the two-sided hit they would release that summer "God Only Knows" and "Wouldn't It Be Nice" and Brian's mournful and moving solo effort "Caroline, No." I really like all of those. But the rest of the album to me does not hold up all that well. Hey, that's just me, we all have different ideas and I never get upset if somebody likes or doesn't like something different from me. My favorite albums from the Boys were their two predecessors to "Pet Sounds" which were "The Beach Boys Today" and "Summer Days and Summer Nights." (I'm not counting "Beach Boys Party" which Capitol slapped together as a throwaway placeholder while Brian was suffering over PS.) Those two albums definitely moved in a more sophisticated direction but without making a complete break from the sound that put them on the map in the first place. I would bet you have them as well -- in fact I remember you saying that "The Beach Boys Today" was the first album you bought -- a great place to begin! Especially those ballads on side two, starting with "Please Let Me Wonder" and "Kiss Me Baby." If I may indulge because I love this topic -- I have a very specific memory of buying "Pet Sounds" as soon as it was released in May of 1966. As I always did with any Beach Boys, Beatles, Rolling Stones or Byrds album, I bought all of them as soon as they were available. I got it at a regional department store chain called Almart, and I got it at the same time I got two other fine LPs that had recently come out, "Aftermath" by the Stones (had "Paint It, Black" and "Mother's Little Helper" and "Stupid Girl" and "Lady Jane") and "If You Can Believe Your Eyes And Ears" by The Mamas and The Papas (which had Michelle Philips sprawled in a bathtub on the cover, albeit fully clothed.) As I was leaving the store, a cute girl who was a classmate of mine came in, and we just had the nicest long talk about music and other less substantive issues. It didn't exactly lead to a romance, but it was a sweet moment that I always remembered. About 40 years after we graduated from high school we re-connected on Facebook. She invited me and my wife to visit her at her place near Cooperstown. It was a wonderful visit, and she actually brought up our long-ago talk spurred by "Pet Sounds." We remain in touch -- for the record my wife is friends with her too -- so I do give the album props for that. Great memories… |
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