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Post by inger on Jul 29, 2024 4:54:46 GMT -5
Duets can definitely be interesting pairings. I think they work best when the voices are extremely different. We would have imagined Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warrens singing a song together? But it worked and worked well. On the flip side, while “Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around” is a great song, sometimes it’s hard to figure out where Stevie Nicks stops and Tom Petty begins, there’s not that much difference in their voices. Stevie Nicks is such a great singer she would have made that song work if she was singing with Dave Seville’s Chipmunks… Anyone fans of Janis Joplin? She was intense. Cry baby? Intense, yes. A hard listen at times, delightful surprise at others… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 29, 2024 9:03:38 GMT -5
"The Sound Of Young America," right? I never saw the movie on the Temps, 55, although I've heard people talking about it quite a bit. The Tops were almost the opposite of the Temps in the sense of great stability within the group, no real drama that I ever heard of, while the Temps had lots of internal fights, issues especially with David Ruffin and his drug use. Otis Williams is the last surviving original member, and also the least utilized member. He never sang leads on any of their hits and not many of their album cuts either, while Eddie Kendricks and David Ruffin (followed by Dennis Edwards) handled most of the lead vocals during their prime years. Paul Williams had a few leads, especially on one of my favorites "Don't Look Back." Melvin Franklin generated a lot of screams with his basso profundo! The only Otis I know is Otis Redding as in "Sitting on the dock of the bay" Well he's the best one! That song was released shortly after his death and was his biggest hit. But he had so many good ones - "These Arms Of Mine" and "I've Been Lovin' You Too Long" and "Try A Little Tenderness" and "Pain In My Heart" and "Mr. Pitiful" among them. He even covered some British Invasion songs like "Satisfaction" and "Day Tripper." He was a brilliant performer. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 29, 2024 9:08:10 GMT -5
"Try A Little Tenderness" The best version, although "Three Dog Night" took a respectable shot at it. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 29, 2024 9:27:15 GMT -5
Anyone fans of Janis Joplin? She was intense. Cry baby? Intense for sure. It helped to have a belt of the Southern Comfort she loved so much to appreciate her fully. I guess I was somewhere in the middle with her. Although Cass Elliott was a huge fan, so it doesn't really matter what I think. Two of her most famous songs -- "Cry Baby" and "Piece Of My Heart" -- were written by a guy from Philly named Jerry Ragovoy. I well remember the original summer of 1963 recording of "Cry Baby" by Garnet Mimms and The Enchanters (also from Philly) and it is one of my all-time favorite soul songs, on my real short list. More soul that I can handle and one of the great spoken interludes. "Piece Of My Heart" has an interesting history. It was originally recorded in 1967 by Erma Franklin, Aretha's older sister, and was her only song to make the Billboard charts. Janis recorded it the next year on her "Cheap Thrills" album with Big Brother and the Holding Company, where of course it became a big hit. Erma did a great job with it too. Her version was nominated for a Grammy as best R&B single, but it lost to sister Aretha's "Chain Of Fools." Wish they could have thrown Erma a bone there, but no. On the off-chance anybody cares, Jerry Ragovoy also wrote "Time Is On My Side" which was recorded several times before The Stones covered it in 1964. One of those recordings was by Irma Thomas, the Soul Queen of New Orleans. (That's for you rizzuto.) Ragovoy also wrote another of my absolute favorite R&B songs "Stay With Me" by Philly belter Lorraine Ellison. Gets you right in the solar plexus. Probably a better-known version came 13 years later when Bette Midler did it for the film "The Rose." And of course Janis did it herself. I always loved the cover art on the "Cheap Thrills" album. Hard to believe she's been gone almost 54 years! |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 29, 2024 9:28:48 GMT -5
"Try A Little Tenderness" The best version, although "Three Dog Night" took a respectable shot at it. Yes they did. And they brought it to a wider audience who otherwise might not have known Otis's version. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 29, 2024 9:42:43 GMT -5
I have a question for those of you of a certain vintage who were from the NYC area. I was cleaning out some boxes a few days ago and found a long-forgotten ticket to a concert I went to on June 9 1967 at a place called the Action House. It was in Island Park NY on Long Island. Do any of you remember that place? The featured performers were The Blues Project (anybody remember them?) whose lead singer was Al Kooper. Shortly after that he left to form Blood, Sweat and Tears along with fellow Project member Steven Katz. Kooper was replaced as lead singer for BS&T after one album by the very different David Clayton Thomas, with whom the band had the vast majority of its success. But I thought Kooper did good work for them and they had some minor hits with "I Can't Quit Her" and "Without Her." He's also the guy playing organ on Bob Dylan's "Like A Rolling Stone."
I looked up the Action House on-line and see it was allegedly a mob-connected place (say it ain't so) and the guy who ran it was manager of Vanilla Fudge, which had a late-60s psychedelic hit covering The Supremes' "Keep Me Hangin' On." Also a young Billy Joel played there when he was a long-haired guy playing with The Hassles.
On the bill with The Blues Project was Eric and the Smoke Ponies. Not to be confused with Linda Ronstadt's Stone Ponys who were out at the same time. I know it's a long-shot, but I was curious if any of you remember this place. For what it's worth it was a great show with a few fights out in the parking lot thrown in for no extra charge.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 29, 2024 10:07:00 GMT -5
Duets can definitely be interesting pairings. I think they work best when the voices are extremely different. We would have imagined Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warrens singing a song together? But it worked and worked well. On the flip side, while “Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around” is a great song, sometimes it’s hard to figure out where Stevie Nicks stops and Tom Petty begins, there’s not that much difference in their voices. Stevie Nicks is such a great singer she would have made that song work if she was singing with Dave Seville’s Chipmunks… Anyone fans of Janis Joplin? She was intense. Cry baby? Janis was an acquired taste that I never acquired. Probably in a minority here, but was also not a big fan of Hendrix. Recogonized the talent, just didn't care for his music. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 29, 2024 10:11:53 GMT -5
I have a question for those of you of a certain vintage who were from the NYC area. I was cleaning out some boxes a few days ago and found a long-forgotten ticket to a concert I went to on June 9 1967 at a place called the Action House. It was in Island Park NY on Long Island. Do any of you remember that place? The featured performers were The Blues Project (anybody remember them?) whose lead singer was Al Kooper. Shortly after that he left to form Blood, Sweat and Tears along with fellow Project member Steven Katz. Kooper was replaced as lead singer for BS&T after one album by the very different David Clayton Thomas, with whom the band had the vast majority of its success. But I thought Kooper did good work for them and they had some minor hits with "I Can't Quit Her" and "Without Her." He's also the guy playing organ on Bob Dylan's "Like A Rolling Stone." I looked up the Action House on-line and see it was allegedly a mob-connected place (say it ain't so) and the guy who ran it was manager of Vanilla Fudge, which had a late-60s psychedelic hit covering The Supremes' "Keep Me Hangin' On." Also a young Billy Joel played there when he was a long-haired guy playing with The Hassles. On the bill with The Blues Project was Eric and the Smoke Ponies. Not to be confused with Linda Ronstadt's Stone Ponys who were out at the same time. I know it's a long-shot, but I was curious if any of you remember this place. For what it's worth it was a great show with a few fights out in the parking lot thrown in for no extra charge. Not sure if you heard the story about Kooper and "Like A Rolling Stone". www.chimesfreedom.com/2018/02/05/man-behind-organ-like-rolling-stone/ |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 29, 2024 10:18:24 GMT -5
I have a question for those of you of a certain vintage who were from the NYC area. I was cleaning out some boxes a few days ago and found a long-forgotten ticket to a concert I went to on June 9 1967 at a place called the Action House. It was in Island Park NY on Long Island. Do any of you remember that place? The featured performers were The Blues Project (anybody remember them?) whose lead singer was Al Kooper. Shortly after that he left to form Blood, Sweat and Tears along with fellow Project member Steven Katz. Kooper was replaced as lead singer for BS&T after one album by the very different David Clayton Thomas, with whom the band had the vast majority of its success. But I thought Kooper did good work for them and they had some minor hits with "I Can't Quit Her" and "Without Her." He's also the guy playing organ on Bob Dylan's "Like A Rolling Stone." Kooper also "discovered" Lynrd Skynrd and produced a few of their albums. |
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Post by laurenfrances on Jul 29, 2024 10:46:52 GMT -5
Anyone fans of Janis Joplin? She was intense. Cry baby? Janis was an acquired taste that I never acquired. Probably in a minority here, but was also not a big fan of Hendrix. Recogonized the talent, just didn't care for his music. Remember Bobby Gentry "Ode to Billy Joe" ? I recalled many wondering what exactly was thrown off the Tallahatchie Bridge.  |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 29, 2024 10:57:00 GMT -5
Janis was an acquired taste that I never acquired. Probably in a minority here, but was also not a big fan of Hendrix. Recogonized the talent, just didn't care for his music. Remember Bobby Gentry "Ode to Billy Joe" ? I recalled many wondering what exactly was thrown off the Tallahatchie Bridge. For sure. It was inescapable in the summer of 67. The same time Big Brother and the Holding Company released their first album, the most-played track of which was "Down On Me." We had a big Bobby Gentry discussion on here a few months ago. Enormously talented performer who did a lot more than that song, although obviously that's what she's remembered for. She's been essentially a recluse for almost forty years. Maybe she's up on Chocktaw Ridge. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 29, 2024 11:26:42 GMT -5
I have a question for those of you of a certain vintage who were from the NYC area. I was cleaning out some boxes a few days ago and found a long-forgotten ticket to a concert I went to on June 9 1967 at a place called the Action House. It was in Island Park NY on Long Island. Do any of you remember that place? The featured performers were The Blues Project (anybody remember them?) whose lead singer was Al Kooper. Shortly after that he left to form Blood, Sweat and Tears along with fellow Project member Steven Katz. Kooper was replaced as lead singer for BS&T after one album by the very different David Clayton Thomas, with whom the band had the vast majority of its success. But I thought Kooper did good work for them and they had some minor hits with "I Can't Quit Her" and "Without Her." He's also the guy playing organ on Bob Dylan's "Like A Rolling Stone." I looked up the Action House on-line and see it was allegedly a mob-connected place (say it ain't so) and the guy who ran it was manager of Vanilla Fudge, which had a late-60s psychedelic hit covering The Supremes' "Keep Me Hangin' On." Also a young Billy Joel played there when he was a long-haired guy playing with The Hassles. On the bill with The Blues Project was Eric and the Smoke Ponies. Not to be confused with Linda Ronstadt's Stone Ponys who were out at the same time. I know it's a long-shot, but I was curious if any of you remember this place. For what it's worth it was a great show with a few fights out in the parking lot thrown in for no extra charge. Not sure if you heard the story about Kooper and "Like A Rolling Stone". www.chimesfreedom.com/2018/02/05/man-behind-organ-like-rolling-stone/That’s great 55. What a story. Kooper obviously had some stones to push his way on there. I didn't realize that was also him on "Just Like A Woman." |
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Post by inger on Jul 29, 2024 11:46:37 GMT -5
I have a question for those of you of a certain vintage who were from the NYC area. I was cleaning out some boxes a few days ago and found a long-forgotten ticket to a concert I went to on June 9 1967 at a place called the Action House. It was in Island Park NY on Long Island. Do any of you remember that place? The featured performers were The Blues Project (anybody remember them?) whose lead singer was Al Kooper. Shortly after that he left to form Blood, Sweat and Tears along with fellow Project member Steven Katz. Kooper was replaced as lead singer for BS&T after one album by the very different David Clayton Thomas, with whom the band had the vast majority of its success. But I thought Kooper did good work for them and they had some minor hits with "I Can't Quit Her" and "Without Her." He's also the guy playing organ on Bob Dylan's "Like A Rolling Stone." I looked up the Action House on-line and see it was allegedly a mob-connected place (say it ain't so) and the guy who ran it was manager of Vanilla Fudge, which had a late-60s psychedelic hit covering The Supremes' "Keep Me Hangin' On." Also a young Billy Joel played there when he was a long-haired guy playing with The Hassles. On the bill with The Blues Project was Eric and the Smoke Ponies. Not to be confused with Linda Ronstadt's Stone Ponys who were out at the same time. I know it's a long-shot, but I was curious if any of you remember this place. For what it's worth it was a great show with a few fights out in the parking lot thrown in for no extra charge. Not sure if you heard the story about Kooper and "Like A Rolling Stone". www.chimesfreedom.com/2018/02/05/man-behind-organ-like-rolling-stone/Roosevelt Gook… 😂 Very clever, indeed… 😂😂😂 |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 29, 2024 12:02:13 GMT -5
That’s great 55. What a story. Kooper obviously had some stones to push his way on there. I didn't realize that was also him on "Just Like A Woman." It wasn't Kooper on organ on Simon & Garfunkle's "I Am A Rock", but they definitely tried to recreate the sound. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 29, 2024 12:06:28 GMT -5
Anyone ever listen to Al Kooper and Mike Bloomfield's "Super Session" album? There's some great stuff on that release, including a great cover of Donavan's "Season of Witch" along a mixture of other covers and some originals. Stephen Stills had to come in and help finish the project because Bloomfield was going through some issues and just left and never came back.
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