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Post by inger on Feb 2, 2022 16:14:00 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Feb 2, 2022 17:10:52 GMT -5
Pipps coming through with his exhaustive knowledge again! He probably only played with “The Sons of the Pioneers” for a few weeks because he was too busy…  |
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Post by Renfield on Feb 2, 2022 17:50:01 GMT -5
America had several songs with obscure if not downright meaningless lyrics-- right off the bat, "A Horse With No Name," their first release in 1971, and most famously a few years later "Tin Man." And the execrable "Muskrat Love," which certainly earned them musical demerits, but not as many as The Captain and Tennille get for actually covering it. Having said that, I generally enjoyed most of their hits -- I am a sucker for three-part harmonies -- especially "Ventura Highway" and the more modest hit "Don't Cross The River" and the sweet harmlessness of "Today's The Day." "I Need You" is another good one for working on your three-part harmony ear. Rizz, "A Horse With No Name" was surely a logical one for your first foray into guitar playing. Two chords, the simple Em and then the equally simple D6/9 (I don't know any other song where it is used, hence the nickname "Horse Chord.") Unfortunately that song was well into the future when I first picked up a cheap Kay guitar and started strumming. The only two-chord song I knew of back then was "Jambalaya," so I made the leap to three chords and amused myself with Buddy Holly's "Words Of Love" for my pathetic start. With A-D-E and a little picking within the chords, it almost resembled real music. Other two-chord songs that jump to mind are "Pushin' Too Hard" by The Seeds, "Paperback Writer" by The Beatles and "Born In The USA" by Springsteen. You need to bring a lot of other things to the table to make a two-chord song work. Pipps coming through with his exhaustive knowledge again! Lou Reed once supposedly said: One chord is good. Two is better. Three chords, now you're talking about jazz. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Feb 2, 2022 17:50:10 GMT -5
He probably only played with “The Sons of the Pioneers” for a few weeks because he was too busy… Like several of us around here, I love The Sons Of The Pioneers, but I'm not worthy to carry Ken Curtis's mic stand. Any of you guys familiar with Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys? That's some serious Western Swing. On the subject of being busy -- my better half and I voted to take a half-day off today on account of we're breaking down. A vacation from our vacation. It's nice to sit here and be able to catch up. Only a few more days in Sedona before Phoenix 2.0. "Daisy Jane" was another America song I liked that just popped into my brain. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Feb 2, 2022 17:52:06 GMT -5
Pipps coming through with his exhaustive knowledge again! Lou Reed once supposedly said: One chord is good. Two is better. Three chords, now you're talking about jazz. If Lou Reed said it, it's got to be true.👍 |
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Post by Renfield on Feb 2, 2022 17:59:37 GMT -5
Like several of us around here, I love The Sons Of The Pioneers, but I'm not worthy to carry Ken Curtis's mic stand. Any of you guys familiar with Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys? That's some serious Western Swing. On the subject of being busy -- my better half and I voted to take a half-day off today on account of we're breaking down. A vacation from our vacation. It's nice to sit here and be able to catch up. Only a few more days in Sedona before Phoenix 2.0. "Daisy Jane" was another America song I liked that just popped into my brain. Heard of Bob Willis and have seen some videos. Had a rare lefty fiddle player if I recall. And, some other two chord songs: "Memphis" and "You Never Can Tell" by Chuck Berry. "Run Through the Jungle" by Credence and "Lime and the Coconut" by Nilsson have only one. |
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Post by inger on Feb 2, 2022 18:05:19 GMT -5
Lou Reed once supposedly said: One chord is good. Two is better. Three chords, now you're talking about jazz. If Lou Reed said it, it's got to be true.👍 I don’t know about that. I’ve listened carefully, yet I’ve never heard the colored girls go Doo do doo do doo do do doo..." |
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Post by inger on Feb 2, 2022 18:08:02 GMT -5
Like several of us around here, I love The Sons Of The Pioneers, but I'm not worthy to carry Ken Curtis's mic stand. Any of you guys familiar with Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys? That's some serious Western Swing. On the subject of being busy -- my better half and I voted to take a half-day off today on account of we're breaking down. A vacation from our vacation. It's nice to sit here and be able to catch up. Only a few more days in Sedona before Phoenix 2.0. "Daisy Jane" was another America song I liked that just popped into my brain. Heard of Bob Willis and have seen some videos. Had a rare lefty fiddle player if I recall. And, some other two chord songs: "Memphis" and "You Never Can Tell" by Chuck Berry. "Run Through the Jungle" by Credence and "Lime and the Coconut" by Nilsson have only one. Now you’ve done it! Who did it best? Cie La Vie (You Never Can Tell). Chuck Berry Bob Seger (other, please name). I love Bob Seger’s version… |
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Post by Renfield on Feb 2, 2022 18:09:22 GMT -5
If Lou Reed said it, it's got to be true.👍 I don’t know about that. I’ve listened carefully, yet I’ve never heard the colored girls go Doo do doo do doo do do doo..." They do it in the very song you're referencing. But no where else that I know of. |
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Post by inger on Feb 2, 2022 18:11:31 GMT -5
I don’t know about that. I’ve listened carefully, yet I’ve never heard the colored girls go Doo do doo do doo do do doo..." They do it in the very song you're referencing. But no where else that I know of. Oh. I thought he meant like, out on the streets. I got beat up a couple times asking them to do it. I won’t do that anymore… |
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Post by Renfield on Feb 2, 2022 18:13:56 GMT -5
Heard of Bob Willis and have seen some videos. Had a rare lefty fiddle player if I recall. And, some other two chord songs: "Memphis" and "You Never Can Tell" by Chuck Berry. "Run Through the Jungle" by Credence and "Lime and the Coconut" by Nilsson have only one. Now you’ve done it! Who did it best? Cie La Vie (You Never Can Tell). Chuck Berry Bob Seger (other, please name). I love Bob Seger’s version… Being a Faces fan, you might like Ronnie Lane and Slim Chance's version. Had kind of a cajun feel. I think Bonnie Raitt did very good version as well. Could have been some other female country singer whose name escapes me, though. |
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Post by inger on Feb 2, 2022 18:15:29 GMT -5
I don’t know about that. I’ve listened carefully, yet I’ve never heard the colored girls go Doo do doo do doo do do doo..." They do it in the very song you're referencing. But no where else that I know of. Oh. I thought he meant like, out on the streets. I got beat up a couple times asking them to do it. I won’t do that anymore… |
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 2, 2022 18:37:40 GMT -5
It turns out that the first time Bunnell went to California they had a flat tire near a sign that said “Ventura”. He had a decent amount of time to look around, a view of the ocean, skies, flora and fauna. It was this memory along with some others of his migration from Omaha to Cally that later inspired the song… America had several songs with obscure if not downright meaningless lyrics-- right off the bat, "A Horse With No Name," their first release in 1971, and most famously a few years later "Tin Man." And the execrable "Muskrat Love," which certainly earned them musical demerits, but not as many as The Captain and Tennille get for actually covering it. Having said that, I generally enjoyed most of their hits -- I am a sucker for three-part harmonies -- especially "Ventura Highway" and the more modest hit "Don't Cross The River" and the sweet harmlessness of "Today's The Day." "I Need You" is another good one for working on your three-part harmony ear. Rizz, "A Horse With No Name" was surely a logical one for your first foray into guitar playing. Two chords, the simple Em and then the equally simple D6/9 (I don't know any other song where it is used, hence the nickname "Horse Chord.") Unfortunately that song was well into the future when I first picked up a cheap Kay guitar and started strumming. The only two-chord song I knew of back then was "Jambalaya," so I made the leap to three chords and amused myself with Buddy Holly's "Words Of Love" for my pathetic start. With A-D-E and a little picking within the chords, it almost resembled real music. Other two-chord songs that jump to mind are "Pushin' Too Hard" by The Seeds, "Paperback Writer" by The Beatles and "Born In The USA" by Springsteen. You need to bring a lot of other things to the table to make a two-chord song work. Muskrat Candlelight was the original name of the song and was written by 21 year old Willis Alan Ramsey on his eponymous album from 1972, produced by Leon Russell on Shelter Records. To this day, it is the only album he ever released and influenced artists from Lyle Lovett to Shawn Colvin. It’s a great album, even if you don’t care for the original song. |
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Post by inger on Feb 2, 2022 18:47:49 GMT -5
America had several songs with obscure if not downright meaningless lyrics-- right off the bat, "A Horse With No Name," their first release in 1971, and most famously a few years later "Tin Man." And the execrable "Muskrat Love," which certainly earned them musical demerits, but not as many as The Captain and Tennille get for actually covering it. Having said that, I generally enjoyed most of their hits -- I am a sucker for three-part harmonies -- especially "Ventura Highway" and the more modest hit "Don't Cross The River" and the sweet harmlessness of "Today's The Day." "I Need You" is another good one for working on your three-part harmony ear. Rizz, "A Horse With No Name" was surely a logical one for your first foray into guitar playing. Two chords, the simple Em and then the equally simple D6/9 (I don't know any other song where it is used, hence the nickname "Horse Chord.") Unfortunately that song was well into the future when I first picked up a cheap Kay guitar and started strumming. The only two-chord song I knew of back then was "Jambalaya," so I made the leap to three chords and amused myself with Buddy Holly's "Words Of Love" for my pathetic start. With A-D-E and a little picking within the chords, it almost resembled real music. Other two-chord songs that jump to mind are "Pushin' Too Hard" by The Seeds, "Paperback Writer" by The Beatles and "Born In The USA" by Springsteen. You need to bring a lot of other things to the table to make a two-chord song work. Muskrat Candlelight was the original name of the song and was written by 21 year old Willis Alan Ramsey on his eponymous album from 1972, produced by Leon Russell on Shelter Records. To this day, it is the only album he ever released and influenced artists from Lyle Lovett to Shawn Colvin. It’s a great album, even if you don’t care for the original song. Even muskrats need love… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Feb 2, 2022 18:49:33 GMT -5
Heard of Bob Willis and have seen some videos. Had a rare lefty fiddle player if I recall. And, some other two chord songs: "Memphis" and "You Never Can Tell" by Chuck Berry. "Run Through the Jungle" by Credence and "Lime and the Coconut" by Nilsson have only one. Now you’ve done it! Who did it best? Cie La Vie (You Never Can Tell). Chuck Berry Bob Seger (other, please name). I love Bob Seger’s version… To me, any song Chuck Berry wrote, he did the best version. That barrell-house piano (John Johnson I think?) and rollicking sax put it in the stratosphere for me (and of course our friend Quentin Tarantino.) Although I thought Elvis did a nice cover of "Promised Land" and Lonnie Mack's instrumental version of "Memphis," while practically a different song, is excellent. I like the Beatles' take on both "Rock and Roll Music" and "Roll Over Beethoven," and The Beach Boys turned "Sweet Little Sixteen" into "Surfin' USA" but did give Chuck writer's credit. No single artist "invented" rock and roll, which was a gradual, organic process. But a good case can be made that Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly were the most important artists in developing the strands that defined the direction of rock music in its beginning. Elvis, Bo Diddley, Little Richard, Carl Perkins, add your own favorites, were all indispensable. But the sheer number of covers or imitations from Berry and Holley put them in the forefront. In my always questionable opinion. |
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