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Post by chiyankee on Oct 7, 2020 8:39:28 GMT -5
I'm hoping Boone gets fired after the season. My head is starting to get a little soft from banging my head against the wall so many times this year. I'd guess that the front office was heavily involved with this decision. Of course, they have no problem letting Boone take all the heat from the media and fanbase. |
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Post by inger on Oct 7, 2020 9:02:29 GMT -5
For tonight’s game, I hope they start Chapman and then bring Tanaka in from the bullpen. Let’s make all the starters relievers. That’ll frustrate the Rays. Or, let’s make all pitchers position players. No way Tampa can prepare for that move. Just think about that for a minute. It’s brilliant. We can mix and match on every hitter. Then the player can go back to his position. We’ll pitch a shut out, and have a full bench to start pinch hitting in the seventh to get the runs we need to win. Gardner and Wade go in for defense in the ninth. Chapman can pitch 6 times to six different hitters. Britton in any time we need a ground ball. The Rays heads will be spinning!... |
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Post by bearman on Oct 7, 2020 9:09:36 GMT -5
If we win the series this will be forgiven but I still think starting Garcia for one inning defies explanation. Do the Yankees think Cash is stupid? We had 4 guys strike out 3 times with 18 total strikeouts. You can't sustain a rally like that. Glasnow was really good. It also didn't help that some of the strikes called on the Yankees weren't strikes but that didn't cost us the game. Today is a new day. We are tied 1 to 1. The biggest negative I can see at this point is IF Garcia can't start game 4. We'll see.
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Post by inger on Oct 7, 2020 9:14:05 GMT -5
All we can do is get over it and get ready to watch tonight. We’re going out to the mountains today, so I probably won’t know much about this one until the late innings. Maybe that’s for the best...
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Post by kaybli on Oct 7, 2020 11:20:58 GMT -5
For tonight’s game, I hope they start Chapman and then bring Tanaka in from the bullpen. Let’s make all the starters relievers. That’ll frustrate the Rays. Or, let’s make all pitchers position players. No way Tampa can prepare for that move.  Seriously. That'll show them how smart we are! |
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Post by inger on Oct 7, 2020 11:28:51 GMT -5
For tonight’s game, I hope they start Chapman and then bring Tanaka in from the bullpen. Let’s make all the starters relievers. That’ll frustrate the Rays. Or, let’s make all pitchers position players. No way Tampa can prepare for that move. Seriously. That'll show them how smart we are! Start Chapman, then Britton in the second, Green in the third. Let Ottavino go for one out in the fourth. Tanaka for 5 2/3 to finish it up. Perfect! Have Gardner and Wade in for first inning defense so we don’t fall behind early. Pinch hit for them as soon as their turn at bat comes. It’s Wacky Wednesday, Rays. You missed it! |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 7, 2020 11:45:21 GMT -5
Heard Paul O’Neill comment on last night’s strategy, “I’m from the old school. You have a starting pitcher? You start ‘em.”
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Post by inger on Oct 7, 2020 11:56:55 GMT -5
Heard Paul O’Neill comment on last night’s strategy, “I’m from the old school. Do you have a starter ready? Start ‘em.” Wide spread usage of the opener came about because a team, the Rays, didn’t have enough starting pitchers they trusted to fill out a rotation. It was a low budget team’s way of playing a few tricks on their opponents to gain a perceived advantage. While I hated the strategy, I could at least get behind it in the sense that it was about survival. If the Yankees suddenly had three injured starters last night, it might have been a great choice. But they didn’t. Anytime the Yanks use this ploy it makes me a bit sick, because it has the feel of more dumpster diving by a team that has not other financial restrictions other than those the owners inflict to make sure they hang onto daddy’s investment money and never have to spend a dime if their own... |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 7, 2020 13:31:46 GMT -5
Heard Paul O’Neill comment on last night’s strategy, “I’m from the old school. Do you have a starter ready? Start ‘em.” Wide spread usage of the opener came about because a team, the Rays, didn’t have enough starting pitchers they trusted to fill out a rotation. It was a low budget team’s way of playing a few tricks on their opponents to gain a perceived advantage. While I hated the strategy, I could at least get behind it in the sense that it was about survival. If the Yankees suddenly had three injured starters last night, it might have been a great choice. But they didn’t. Anytime the Yanks use this ploy it makes me a bit sick, because it has the feel of more dumpster diving by a team that has not other financial restrictions other than those the owners inflict to make sure they hang onto daddy’s investment money and never have to spend a dime if their own... Wholeheartedly agree, which is why I was apoplectic last night. The Yankees should not have to turn to gimmicks or gamesmanship, especially with their lineup finally healthy. An average game from either García or Happ could have gotten the job done. Starting pitchers are notoriously regimented in their habits and preparation. Happ has been pretty good this season, so why screw up his routine? Ridiculous. |
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Post by inger on Oct 7, 2020 13:45:05 GMT -5
Wide spread usage of the opener came about because a team, the Rays, didn’t have enough starting pitchers they trusted to fill out a rotation. It was a low budget team’s way of playing a few tricks on their opponents to gain a perceived advantage. While I hated the strategy, I could at least get behind it in the sense that it was about survival. If the Yankees suddenly had three injured starters last night, it might have been a great choice. But they didn’t. Anytime the Yanks use this ploy it makes me a bit sick, because it has the feel of more dumpster diving by a team that has not other financial restrictions other than those the owners inflict to make sure they hang onto daddy’s investment money and never have to spend a dime if their own... Wholeheartedly agree, which is why I was apoplectic last night. The Yankees should not have to turn to gimmicks or gamesmanship, especially with their lineup finally healthy. An average game from either García or Happ could have gotten the job done. Starting pitchers are notoriously regimented in their habits and preparation. Happ has been pretty good this season, so why screw up his routine? Ridiculous. I completely understood where you were coming from, but I also didn’t see Garcia turning things around after that first inning. So to Happ we went... Yet, I could have been wrong and the kid might have made it through 4-5 on 100 pitches. Heck, as it turned out Yankee pitchers through 100 in four innings anyway. Either way, we were apparently bound to lose the game. Rays hit when they needed to, and shut us down when they needed to. Stanton was weapon A. The rest of our big guns looked pretty bad at the plate most of the night. We even let Tampa get the upper hand playing some of their other odd little games, like the four-man outfield. Get back to real baseball tonight. Make more contact, run the bases well. Field the ball cleanly and make the opponent work to beat you. Charlie Morton is a talented pitcher, but he’s beatable... |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 7, 2020 14:07:40 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 7, 2020 14:25:24 GMT -5
Heard Paul O’Neill comment on last night’s strategy, “I’m from the old school. You have a starting pitcher? You start ‘em.” It's not even old school, since this how most teams and especially teams that have been going to the World Series still play the game. |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 7, 2020 14:27:00 GMT -5
Heard Paul O’Neill comment on last night’s strategy, “I’m from the old school. Do you have a starter ready? Start ‘em.” Wide spread usage of the opener came about because a team, the Rays, didn’t have enough starting pitchers they trusted to fill out a rotation. It was a low budget team’s way of playing a few tricks on their opponents to gain a perceived advantage. While I hated the strategy, I could at least get behind it in the sense that it was about survival. If the Yankees suddenly had three injured starters last night, it might have been a great choice. But they didn’t. Anytime the Yanks use this ploy it makes me a bit sick, because it has the feel of more dumpster diving by a team that has not other financial restrictions other than those the owners inflict to make sure they hang onto daddy’s investment money and never have to spend a dime if their own... I don't see the Rays using an opener in this series. I wonder why? Maybe they prefer to use starters? |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 7, 2020 14:29:56 GMT -5
Wholeheartedly agree, which is why I was apoplectic last night. The Yankees should not have to turn to gimmicks or gamesmanship, especially with their lineup finally healthy. An average game from either García or Happ could have gotten the job done. Starting pitchers are notoriously regimented in their habits and preparation. Happ has been pretty good this season, so why screw up his routine? Ridiculous. . So to Happ we went... Yet, I could have been wrong and the kid might have made it through 4-5 on 100 pitches. Heck, as it turned out Yankee pitchers through 100 in four innings anyway. I'm not sure what Garcia had to turn around. He gave up a solo HR to a guy that is so hot that most Yankee pitchers are having trouble getting him out, including Cole and this also after Garcia threw two strikes in that at bat that were called balls by Buckner. Either way, Devi threw the ball much better than Happ, despite Cash having left handed hitters in the lineup. |
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Post by inger on Oct 7, 2020 14:47:56 GMT -5
I completely understood where you were coming from, but I also didn’t see Garcia turning things around after that first inning. So to Happ we went... Yet, I could have been wrong and the kid might have made it through 4-5 on 100 pitches. Heck, as it turned out Yankee pitchers through 100 in four innings anyway. I'm not sure what Garcia had to turn around. He gave up a solo HR to a guy that is so hot that most Yankee pitchers are having trouble getting him out, including Cole and this also after Garcia threw two strikes in that at bat that were called balls by Buckner. Either way, Devi threw the ball much better than Happ, despite Cash having left handed hitters in the lineup. Perhaps the biggest obstacle Garcia would have had to overcome was CB Buckner. He was giving pitches to Glasnow that wasn’t giving Garcia. For that reason alone, the inning was extended and Garcia was throwing more high intensity pitches than he should have. Was Buckner doing it intentionally? Probably not. He’s just a bad umpire...A bad umpire may have it in his mind that a rookie has to throw better pitches to get strikes called... |
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Seriously. That'll show them how smart we are!