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Post by rizzuto on Dec 9, 2021 1:57:11 GMT -5
It’s a sandwich, similar to a sub or a hoagie, except it uses French bread that should be flakey on the outside and soft on the inside. They usually are equipped with fried or grilled seafood, like gulf shrimp, oysters, or catfish. Occasionally, soft shell crab or crawfish. Other popular ones are roast beef, ham, turkey, or sausage. Combinations are not uncommon these days. Generally, they are “dressed” with mayo or aoili or remoulade, shredded lettuce and tomato. Non seafood may have pickles, various cheeses, au jus or gravy, mustard, peppers, etc. Hot sauces are often used by the customer at the table. Below is a BBQ shrimp poboy that has not been dressed. To each his own! Poboys require lots of paper towels or napkins, as they are loaded inside, with shrimp - for example - spilling out on wax paper to be retrieved with your fingers in between bites. The one below has been too carefully presented and is unusually and overly neat, no doubt for the photo.  Here’s a typical fried shrimp Poboy from Parkway Bakery, which was Sarah’s favorites:  I could definitely handle some of that. Of course you realize there would be some condiment adjustments required. Shrimp is always on my favorites list and some of those variations would work to, but shrimp would be very high on the list, with crab a close second. Seafood is one of the few things Ruthie doesn’t care for, so I seek it out often when we go out… What don't you eat again? No tomatoes, no lettuce, no mayo, no hot sauce, and what else? That shrimp poboy might be a tad dry without something other than the bread and shrimp...still tasty, but kind of dry. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Dec 9, 2021 7:52:11 GMT -5
Personally, I don’t think announcers belong in the same Hall of Fame as the players. Nor do executives, owners, popcorn vendors, grounds crew members, or the rest room cleaning staff. I also think that having a Veterans Committee over ride years of voting cheapened the joint to a horrible degree and dropped the standards to the Harold Baines level. That said, I like Kitty Kaat. I really liked him as a pitcher and as an announcer. Since those tools do exist, I’m ecstatic for him personally… Inger, just for the record, the broadcasters aren't in the Hall the way that players are, with plaques and all of that. Even though it's usually described as a broadcasting "wing," there isn't some corridor you walk through dedicated to them. It's more like a permanent exhibit within the general HOF space. Hawk Harrelson and Tim McCarver are in there, so the bar can't be too high. Although of the broadcasters I am familiar with, most are either very good (Vin Scully, Ernie Harwell, Jack Buck, Bob Costas, Harry Kalas, Bob Uecker, Bob Murphy, Jack Brickhouse, Lindsey Nelson, Tony Kubek) or "characters" like Harry Caray, Jerry Coleman and Bob Prince (watch Sterling get in on this basis.) Appropriately enough, the first two put in were Red Barber and Mel Allen. They could not have been more opposite in their approach to the game -- Barber meticulously prepared, spare prose, rather serious; Allen plopping down in the booth just in time for the broadcast, talkative, relaxed after a few stiff belts. They were not particularly fond of each other, but what a treat to hear them do a game. |
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 9, 2021 8:08:53 GMT -5
Personally, I don’t think announcers belong in the same Hall of Fame as the players. Nor do executives, owners, popcorn vendors, grounds crew members, or the rest room cleaning staff. I also think that having a Veterans Committee over ride years of voting cheapened the joint to a horrible degree and dropped the standards to the Harold Baines level. That said, I like Kitty Kaat. I really liked him as a pitcher and as an announcer. Since those tools do exist, I’m ecstatic for him personally… Inger, just for the record, the broadcasters aren't in the Hall the way that players are, with plaques and all of that. Even though it's usually described as a broadcasting "wing," there isn't some corridor you walk through dedicated to them. It's more like a permanent exhibit within the general HOF space. Hawk Harrelson and Tim McCarver are in there, so the bar can't be too high. Although of the broadcasters I am familiar with, most are either very good (Vin Scully, Ernie Harwell, Jack Buck, Bob Costas, Harry Kalas, Bob Uecker, Bob Murphy, Jack Brickhouse, Lindsey Nelson, Tony Kubek) or "characters" like Harry Caray, Jerry Coleman and Bob Prince (watch Sterling get in on this basis.) Appropriately enough, the first two put in were Red Barber and Mel Allen. They could not have been more opposite in their approach to the game -- Barber meticulously prepared, spare prose, rather serious; Allen plopping down in the booth just in time for the broadcast, talkative, relaxed after a few stiff belts. They were not particularly fond of each other, but what a treat to hear them do a game. Tim McCarver had zero appeal for me, especially his shrill voice and constant inflection of surprise. Vin Scully and Ernie Harwell were as good as it gets. So many times on a long car trip, while Sarah slept, I’d gingerly scroll through the AM dial and stop immediately when Scully’s voice would hit the speakers. Then with a feeling of satisfaction, I’d settle comfortably into my seat, set the cruise control, and let that unassuming, melodious voice take me home. |
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Dec 9, 2021 10:37:32 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Dec 9, 2021 10:37:32 GMT -5
I could definitely handle some of that. Of course you realize there would be some condiment adjustments required. Shrimp is always on my favorites list and some of those variations would work to, but shrimp would be very high on the list, with crab a close second. Seafood is one of the few things Ruthie doesn’t care for, so I seek it out often when we go out… What don't you eat again? No tomatoes, no lettuce, no mayo, no hot sauce, and what else? That shrimp poboy might be a tad dry without something other than the bread and shrimp...still tasty, but kind of dry. I might bear with a tiny splash of hot sauce… Lettuce would be fine, I do eat that, and it tends to moisten things a bit. Dry doesn’t bother me that much…I’m used to it. I use saliva to wet my food. I add it after the food enters my mouth though… |
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Post by inger on Dec 9, 2021 10:41:21 GMT -5
Personally, I don’t think announcers belong in the same Hall of Fame as the players. Nor do executives, owners, popcorn vendors, grounds crew members, or the rest room cleaning staff. I also think that having a Veterans Committee over ride years of voting cheapened the joint to a horrible degree and dropped the standards to the Harold Baines level. That said, I like Kitty Kaat. I really liked him as a pitcher and as an announcer. Since those tools do exist, I’m ecstatic for him personally… Inger, just for the record, the broadcasters aren't in the Hall the way that players are, with plaques and all of that. Even though it's usually described as a broadcasting "wing," there isn't some corridor you walk through dedicated to them. It's more like a permanent exhibit within the general HOF space. Hawk Harrelson and Tim McCarver are in there, so the bar can't be too high. Although of the broadcasters I am familiar with, most are either very good (Vin Scully, Ernie Harwell, Jack Buck, Bob Costas, Harry Kalas, Bob Uecker, Bob Murphy, Jack Brickhouse, Lindsey Nelson, Tony Kubek) or "characters" like Harry Caray, Jerry Coleman and Bob Prince (watch Sterling get in on this basis.) Appropriately enough, the first two put in were Red Barber and Mel Allen. They could not have been more opposite in their approach to the game -- Barber meticulously prepared, spare prose, rather serious; Allen plopping down in the booth just in time for the broadcast, talkative, relaxed after a few stiff belts. They were not particularly fond of each other, but what a treat to hear them do a game. Of course. I’ve been there. I suppose that the old time broadcasters were worthy of remembrance. When you start putting people like McCarver and Harrelson in there only because of who their employers were that that they did the job for a long time, it gets cheapened really fast… |
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Dec 9, 2021 14:07:30 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Dec 9, 2021 14:07:30 GMT -5
More about broadcasters, as I’ve taken more time to think. The most deserving would be the early men of radio, who were tasked with describing the action, even adding sound effects like bat on ball. There was a challenge to be taken on, to make a game that no one could see exciting, even between plays. The pitcher paws at the ground as the hitter digs in deep. The manager flashing signs from the dugout. The pitch, (clop) it’s a long fly ball out to left, the left fielder turns and runs close to the wall, he looks up, he reaches and MAKES THE GRAB! Ladies and gentlemen, this was a catch the likes of which this broadcaster has seldom seen! …
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 10, 2021 1:58:04 GMT -5
Perhaps it was Pipps who first mentioned this at HeAmyHa several years ago, but it bears repeating: Jim Kaat is an avid golfer and during a week of play shot his age both right-handed and left-handed. Now, I have shot my age many times - for nine holes.  Just thinking about Jim Kaat and his election to the Hall of Fame, the athleticism it takes to play golf from both sides just amazes me, and that one single fact illustrates how Kaat was able to win those sixteen (16) Gold Glove Awards. Jim Kaat learned to get outs and compete on the mound without throwing hard early, as even after his senior year of high school baseball, he was only 5'10" and 170 pounds. As an announcer, Kaat many times would tactfully critique pitchers who were reluctant to "take something off" the ball, rather than always ramping up in attempt to end tough at bats, especially during the later innings. Without any scholarship offers, Kaat enrolled in college nonetheless but quickly grew to 6'4" and 200 pounds - which in my experience with kids of Dutch ancestry is not uncommon to have a delayed growth spurt in their late teens. I recall a fellow student in my graduating class who was a year older than me and about an inch or so shorter. A couple years later, some guy tapped me on my shoulder at a high school football game, and I turned around to look him straight in the chest! After looking up, it took me several seconds to recognize his face, as he had also lost a ton of weight. After high school, he joined the Navy and had shot up to 6'8". In 1972, Jim Kaat was having an outstanding campaign, "compiling a 10-2 record with a 2.06 ERA and surrendering two or fewer runs in each of his first seven outings" in only 15 starts. Unfortunately, "the 33-year-old lefty broke a bone in his pitching hand while sliding at Comiskey Park and was done for the season." Kaat would certainly have added to his 283 career win total that season with 26 more starts remaining! Listening to Jim Kaat on Buster Olney's podcast, after the notification from the Hall of Fame of his election, Kaat called Tommy John to let him know that the election just may help him in the future, as Kaat believes John deserved to be in the HOF before himself. Tim Kurkjian remarked that ball players who become baseball analysts often hesitate to criticize current ball players and have asked him how to go about communicating what they need say to viewers. Kurkjian said he advises them to watch and to listen to broadcasts with Jim Kaat, whom he stated is able to point out mistakes with grace and objectivity and without damaging or upsetting the egos of current players on the field. |
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Post by domeplease on Dec 10, 2021 15:57:05 GMT -5
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Just thinking about Jim Kaat and his election to the Hall of Fame, the athleticism it takes to play golf from both sides just amazes me, and that one single fact illustrates how Kaat was able to win those sixteen (16) Gold Glove Awards.