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Post by noetsi on May 13, 2021 21:18:09 GMT -5
He was once amazing. Now he can't hit at all.
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Post by inger on May 13, 2021 21:57:24 GMT -5
I guess we’ll find out, Russ. It takes time... 🐝 patient...
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Post by chiyankee on May 13, 2021 22:02:34 GMT -5
With Torres out, time to give Andujar a run.
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Post by inger on May 13, 2021 22:27:35 GMT -5
Might as well. We need offense, and Torres wasn’t providing it. When he gets well, if Andujar is hitting and Urshela is handling SS, I could see Torres on the bench and on the block. He even has an option remaining...
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Post by kaybli on May 14, 2021 1:58:25 GMT -5
Might as well. We need offense, and Torres wasn’t providing it. When he gets well, if Andujar is hitting and Urshela is handling SS, I could see Torres on the bench and on the block. He even has an option remaining... It'll take a lot for Torres to be on the block. The Yankee brass love him too much. |
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Post by desousa on May 14, 2021 6:44:43 GMT -5
I think he will, but then again, will anyone on this team hit again?
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Post by bearman on May 14, 2021 10:55:45 GMT -5
To me Andujar is the biggest mystery on this team. It was no secret that he was not a great position player but I thought his hitting would earn him a spot somewhere in the lineup. With Torres out and Ford not hitting a lick I would like to see him get a chance to play. If he doesn't produce over a reasonable period of time wish him well and release him or try to trade him, however I doubt he has any trade value. Maybe tonight some of out whiffers will start to break out of their slumps. The season is nearly 1/4 over and it is time.
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Post by rizzuto on May 14, 2021 12:51:40 GMT -5
Might as well. We need offense, and Torres wasn’t providing it. When he gets well, if Andujar is hitting and Urshela is handling SS, I could see Torres on the bench and on the block. He even has an option remaining... It'll take a lot for Torres to be on the block. The Yankee brass love him too much. I agree. The Yankees will have to decide next year about shortstop, as several top free agents will be on the market at the position. Once those shake out, Torres’ future may be better defined. I just don’t see him staying at shortstop. |
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Post by inger on May 14, 2021 12:59:50 GMT -5
It'll take a lot for Torres to be on the block. The Yankee brass love him too much. I agree. The Yankees will have to decide next year about shortstop, as several top free agents will be on the market at the position. Once those shake out, Torres’ future may be better defined. I just don’t see him staying at shortstop. Yet, we face similar concerns at catcher, left field and center field. To some degree those concerns may be addressable internally. They might even be “fixed” with the awakening of a couple of currently slumbering bats. Torres is not as easy. It’s a special case because even if he was hitting, I’d be disappointed with his glove work...And if Torres is to be moved to a different position, it would be a position that is already well-manned. Probably better than he could fulfill... |
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Post by rizzuto on May 14, 2021 13:33:33 GMT -5
I agree. The Yankees will have to decide next year about shortstop, as several top free agents will be on the market at the position. Once those shake out, Torres’ future may be better defined. I just don’t see him staying at shortstop. Yet, we face similar concerns at catcher, left field and center field. To some degree those concerns may be addressable internally. They might even be “fixed” with the awakening of a couple of currently slumbering bats. Torres is not as easy. It’s a special case because even if he was hitting, I’d be disappointed with his glove work...And if Torres is to be moved to a different position, it would be a position that is already well-manned. Probably better than he could fulfill... I do not see Torres at shortstop precisely because of his defense. If you recall, when the Yankees traded for Torres, I was not enthusiastic because I did not consider his body type as being one for the future at shortstop but more likely as a second baseman. Even if he were hitting and leading the league in OPS, I’d feel the same. Frazier is the future in left field, he’s just not hitting for the first time since being called up initially. I see Florial as bumping Hicks to the curb as soon as next season, and then Dominguez a couple years from now. I’m not sure if Judge gets signed in his free agent year if he does not stay healthy between now and then. Sandwich has a strong arm and can hit the ball a mile, that’s it. Dave Kingman without the batting average.  |
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Post by rizzuto on May 14, 2021 14:38:34 GMT -5
Andujar...I just don’t know. So much of hitting is confidence, and an injury - especially if never experienced previously - can cause an athlete to question if he’ll ever be the same. Miggy’s swing doesn’t appear as level through the zone as his rookie year. Is that more upward stroke by design or a by product of frustration? Has the talk of his defensive weaknesses put more pressure on him to perform offensively? I have to believe his struggles are mental. In 600 at bats in 2018, he had 47 doubles, 2 triples, and 27 home runs. I cannot believe he’s forgotten how to hit. Yet, that seems to be the case.
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Post by pippsheadache on May 14, 2021 14:48:08 GMT -5
You nailed it on Miggy pal. I thought the same thing, but you were able to pinpoint it better than I could.
Maybe it's faith over logic, but he still seems salvageable, although perhaps not with the Yankees.
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Post by pippsheadache on May 14, 2021 14:51:47 GMT -5
Dave Kingman without the batting average. LOL. Kingman, like The Sanchino, was entertaining to watch, but more so if he wasn't on your team.
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Post by pippsheadache on May 14, 2021 15:00:02 GMT -5
As for Frazier-- there is something about that talent level that makes me in favor of a long leash. But not an infinite one. His performance now is unacceptable. He still has an option I believe, and if after regular playing time his numbers are anywhere close to this in July, he can sit next to Mike King on the Scranton Shuttle and let's see what Trey or Socrates can do.
He's horrific right now. But I still think he can put it together.
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Post by inger on May 14, 2021 15:10:27 GMT -5
Yet, we face similar concerns at catcher, left field and center field. To some degree those concerns may be addressable internally. They might even be “fixed” with the awakening of a couple of currently slumbering bats. Torres is not as easy. It’s a special case because even if he was hitting, I’d be disappointed with his glove work...And if Torres is to be moved to a different position, it would be a position that is already well-manned. Probably better than he could fulfill... I do not see Torres at shortstop precisely because of his defense. If you recall, when the Yankees traded for Torres, I was not enthusiastic because I did not consider his body type as being one for the future at shortstop but more likely as a second baseman. Even if he were hitting and leading the league in OPS, I’d feel the same. Frazier is the future in left field, he’s just not hitting for the first time since being called up initially. I see Florial as bumping Hicks to the curb as soon as next season, and then Dominguez a couple years from now. I’m not sure if Judge gets signed in his free agent year if he does not stay healthy between now and then. Sandwich has a strong arm and can hit the ball a mile, that’s it. Dave Kingman without the batting average. I was also barking about body type on Torres, thinking of moving him the opposite way, to third. I don’t see a great 2B either... |
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