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Post by bearman on Jul 11, 2021 17:58:01 GMT -5
Even though we haven’t blown many games like this the box score is pretty much a microcosm of our offense all season. We left 14 on base, received 14 walks, were 3-16 with RISP and struck out more than 1/3 of the time. Disgusting.
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Post by kaybli on Jul 11, 2021 17:58:03 GMT -5
I'm trying to keep perspective here. Its only one game. We had a 4-2 trip. But it certainly stings. We're two Chad Green meltdowns away from being 6-0 against Houston. Tough to swallow for sure.  |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 11, 2021 17:59:16 GMT -5
Even though we haven’t blown many games like this the box score is pretty much a microcosm of our offense all season. We left 14 on base, received 14 walks, were 3-16 with RISP and struck out more than 1/3 of the time. Disgusting.  |
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Post by inger on Jul 11, 2021 18:05:40 GMT -5
Seems we were pretty good until we signed Ellsbury. Since then, there’s been a stench around this ball club. I think the experience with JakieBoy is what turned Hal into a tightwad. It woukdn’t make me happy to blow $22M on that mess. Then turn around snd blow $30M a year on Stanton… All money that at different times could have been used more judiciously… I’m actually getting sick of Stanton setting up to sting 115 MPH singles through the right side. Close that stance up a bit, level those shoulders, man. You’re not Charlie Lau. Hit some home runs! Quit swinging down on the ball…
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Post by acuraman on Jul 11, 2021 18:14:21 GMT -5
here's something:
MLB teams are 493-2 when leading by 4+ runs entering the 9th inning this season.
The Yankees have both losses.
I can't watch this team this year...but I continue to torcher myself and watch anyways.
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Post by Renfield on Jul 11, 2021 18:16:53 GMT -5
Even though we haven’t blown many games like this the box score is pretty much a microcosm of our offense all season. We left 14 on base, received 14 walks, were 3-16 with RISP and struck out more than 1/3 of the time. Disgusting. That pretty much sums it up. Throw in another double play for extra flavor. |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 11, 2021 18:18:09 GMT -5
here's something: MLB teams are 493-2 when leading by 4+ runs entering the 9th inning this season. The Yankees have both losses. I can't watch this team this year...but I continue to torcher myself and watch anyways. Ooooof. Thats awful.
Good to see ya Ac-man! |
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Post by maizeyanks on Jul 11, 2021 18:20:23 GMT -5
I'm trying to keep perspective here. Its only one game. We had a 4-2 trip. But it certainly stings. Should be no worse than 2-3 GB in AL East even with how poorly they've played, overall a downright disaster of a 1st half given the expectations. They cant just hold serve now the first few weeks of 2nd half, 8 games vs BOS, they can't be 4-4, no room for error. They have to go 6-2 or better if they want to get back in AL East hunt. I thought Yanks had a really good shot at the WS this year, but the caveat was that I figured they'd win the AL East and get home field advantage throughout playoffs, which would be a huge benefactor. No way they get home field now, and they're gonna have to win small sample wild card series and division series on the road. That's even if they're lucky enough to make the playoffs as one of last few seeds. |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 11, 2021 18:27:24 GMT -5
here's something: MLB teams are 493-2 when leading by 4+ runs entering the 9th inning this season. The Yankees have both losses. I can't watch this team this year...but I continue to torcher myself and watch anyways. Ooooof. Thats awful.
Good to see ya Ac-man! How have you been? |
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Post by rizzuto on Jul 11, 2021 18:28:17 GMT -5
Seems we were pretty good until we signed Ellsbury. Since then, there’s been a stench around this ball club. I think the experience with JakieBoy is what turned Hal into a tightwad. It woukdn’t make me happy to blow $22M on that mess. Then turn around snd blow $30M a year on Stanton… All money that at different times could have been used more judiciously… I’m actually getting sick of Stanton setting up to sting 115 MPH singles through the right side. Close that stance up a bit, level those shoulders, man. You’re not Charlie Lau. Hit some home runs! Quit swinging down on the ball… Stanton has a 131 OPS+, second to only Judge. He costs the Yankees 25 million per year AAV, not 30. And, his swing looks nothing like the recommendations of Charlie Lau. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 11, 2021 18:53:11 GMT -5
here's something: MLB teams are 493-2 when leading by 4+ runs entering the 9th inning this season. The Yankees have both losses. I can't watch this team this year...but I continue to torcher myself and watch anyways. You might as well come back and vent with us! |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 11, 2021 19:05:16 GMT -5
here's something: MLB teams are 493-2 when leading by 4+ runs entering the 9th inning this season. The Yankees have both losses. I can't watch this team this year...but I continue to torcher myself and watch anyways. You might as well come back and vent with us! Exactly! |
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Post by inger on Jul 11, 2021 19:11:22 GMT -5
Seems we were pretty good until we signed Ellsbury. Since then, there’s been a stench around this ball club. I think the experience with JakieBoy is what turned Hal into a tightwad. It woukdn’t make me happy to blow $22M on that mess. Then turn around snd blow $30M a year on Stanton… All money that at different times could have been used more judiciously… I’m actually getting sick of Stanton setting up to sting 115 MPH singles through the right side. Close that stance up a bit, level those shoulders, man. You’re not Charlie Lau. Hit some home runs! Quit swinging down on the ball… Stanton has a 131 OPS+, second to only Judge. He costs the Yankees 25 million per year AAV, not 30. And, his swing looks nothing like the recommendations of Charlie Lau. I understand all of that, Rizz. The one thing in that whole paragraph I’m not getting anymore is OPS. You take two numbers that have nothing to do with each other and you add them together. With OPS itself not being an accurate assessment of a hitter, his then does OPS+ become meaningful. It’s Noetsi math. Don’t misunderstand, it has meaning, but I don’t think it’s as accurate as the baseball world seems to think it is…It’s only a basic understanding of two important skill sets combined. Maybe it’s the best that can be done, but I don’t think so. Anyway, I was just venting. I recognize the difference between what Stanton is doing and the helicopter swing theory. The dude is hitting Line drives. If he could do so should making better contact he’d have a great season. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 11, 2021 19:40:47 GMT -5
I'm trying to keep perspective here. Its only one game. We had a 4-2 trip. But it certainly stings. Should be no worse than 2-3 GB in AL East even with how poorly they've played, overall a downright disaster of a 1st half given the expectations. They cant just hold serve now the first few weeks of 2nd half, 8 games vs BOS, they can't be 4-4, no room for error. They have to go 6-2 or better if they want to get back in AL East hunt. I thought Yanks had a really good shot at the WS this year, but the caveat was that I figured they'd win the AL East and get home field advantage throughout playoffs, which would be a huge benefactor. No way they get home field now, and they're gonna have to win small sample wild card series and division series on the road. That's even if they're lucky enough to make the playoffs as one of last few seeds. Maize hits it right on the head here... Once they didn't win both games in the double header vs the Mets I was like they need to go 5-1 this week minimum to keep some sort of pace. They def had the chance to do that but they sleep walked in that third game in Seattle. Then in this game they are ahead 7-2 and somehow that is not enough. As Maize said it's very hard to chalk it up because the inconsistently bad play has got them to a point where 4-2 is not helping their case. If they had won this they sweep Houston in their building, they are 5 games over 500, they stay 2 in the loss behind Oakland for the 2nd wildcard and they cut the AL East down to 6 in the loss. Now instead they are 3 games over 500, they are 3 in the loss behind Oakland for the second wildcard and are 7 behind the al East in the loss. Luckily they have tie beakers against Cleveland and Seattle and could still get them against Toronto as they are 6-6 vs them and maybe TB who they are 5-8 against. We can sit here and say oh well if they split the 8 games vs the Red Sox they are fine but that's just not going to cut it here. I feel they need to go like 6-2 in those at worst. They are just terrible at closing things down. They have has the chance to sweep 12 series this year. Some teams don't even have that many chances in a season. They have only swept 3 of them out of 12. Add back like 4 of those 9 losses and as maize said most likely about 3 back in the loss in AL East. However though as terrible as this team looks at times as we saw last night Cole can be that ace the team needs and the other starters on the team have the capability of winning playoff games. I just dunno what it's going to take for this team to get it together. I do feel the offense could have scored 15 runs today easily, but at the same time 7 really should be enough too. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 11, 2021 19:57:24 GMT -5
I didn't watch this game from home, so that at least limited the property damage. Wasn't it obvious after his first two batters that Green just didn't have it today? Virtually every pitch he threw looked very hittable. It's more surprising that he got one out than that he allowed four runs, plus two inherited.
I think Boone was simply shell-shocked and couldn't make a move. Of all the things that bothered me, the thing that bothered me most was allowing Altuve to beat them. He lives for these moments. Walk him, drill him, whatever, and probably Brantley beats you anyway, but Altuve is almost a cinch. It's like when Ortiz was playing, I was furious any time they pitched to him in a close game after the seventh inning. It almost always came back to bite them. Make any other player on the team beat you. Edgar Martinez, George Brett, Frank Robinson-- no, don't try it.
The All Star break comes at a perfect time. As stomach-churning as this loss is, I think most of us would have signed up for a 4-2 road trip against Seattle and Houston. But it won't mean much unless the Yankees do a number on Boston, at least six of eight to make any progress.
In the 26 years of the Wild Card, a Wild Card team has won the ring seven times. Three of those times came consecutively in 2002, 2003 and 2004. The Yankees have been the Wild Card team seven times, and in none of those years did they even make it to the Series. So based on the history, your chances are a lot better if you win your division.
They need to start seriously beating up on Boston. I'm not holding my breath, but I'm still not putting up the white flag. Maybe an off-white or a cream, but not a white flag.
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