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Post by maizeyanks on Jul 11, 2021 19:58:37 GMT -5
Sign of a not so good club anthony, when your offense scores runs then your pitching falters. When your pitching is great, your offense cant get anything going.
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Post by kaybli on Jul 11, 2021 20:04:30 GMT -5
I didn't watch this game from home, so that at least limited the property damage. Wasn't it obvious after his first two batters that Green just didn't have it today? Virtually every pitch he threw looked very hittable. It's more surprising that he got one out than that he allowed four runs, plus two inherited. I think Boone was simply shell-shocked and couldn't make a move. Of all the things that bothered me, the thing that bothered me most was allowing Altuve to beat them. He lives for these moments. Walk him, drill him, whatever, and probably Brantley beats you anyway, but Altuve is almost a cinch. It's like when Ortiz was playing, I was furious any time they pitched to him in a close game after the seventh inning. It almost always came back to bite them. Make any other player on the team beat you. Edgar Martinez, George Brett, Frank Robinson-- no, don't try it. The All Star break comes at a perfect time. As stomach-churning as this loss is, I think most of us would have signed up for a 4-2 road trip against Seattle and Houston. But it won't mean much unless the Yankees do a number on Boston, at least six of eight to make any progress. In the 26 years of the Wild Card, a Wild Card team has won the ring seven times. Three of those times came consecutively in 2002, 2003 and 2004. The Yankees have been the Wild Card team seven times, and in none of those years did they even make it to the Series. So based on the history, your chances are a lot better if you win your division. They need to start seriously beating up on Boston. I'm not holding my breath, but I'm still not putting up the white flag. Maybe an off-white or a cream, but not a white flag. I agree Pipps. How can you let the same guy beat you over and over and over again? |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 11, 2021 20:05:45 GMT -5
Brian Cashman has retained his GM job despite not being in a World Series for 11 seasons and counting. Prior to that, the longest any Yankee GM kept his job without making it to a World Series was seven seasons, held by Lee MacPhail from 1967 through 1973 during the bleak CBS years.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 11, 2021 20:19:53 GMT -5
I think Boone was simply shell-shocked and couldn't make a move. Of all the things that bothered me, the thing that bothered me most was allowing Altuve to beat them. He lives for these moments. Walk him, drill him, whatever, and probably Brantley beats you anyway, but Altuve is almost a cinch. It's like when Ortiz was playing, I was furious any time they pitched to him in a close game after the seventh inning. It almost always came back to bite them. Make any other player on the team beat you. Edgar Martinez, George Brett, Frank Robinson-- no, don't try it. It literally made no sense. It was 7-5, not 7-6 or 7-7 there was some room for error. So you walk the bases loaded and maybe Brantley ties it or wins it or maybe he only hits a sac fly and you have two outs then who knows. If you have first base open why are you pitching to Altuve in that spot? |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 11, 2021 20:23:56 GMT -5
Jasson Dominguez, CF, NYY No. 1 | MLB No. 24: Though he has yet to take an at-bat or play an inning above the complex-league level, Dominguez generated some electricity in his Futures Game debut. The 18-year-old connected on a home run during batting practice, then lined out on a 106 mph screamer to third base after entering as a pinch-hitter in the top of the third. Dominguez struck out to close the top of the fifth against Cavalli.
Sounds like he will fit right in..
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Post by maizeyanks on Jul 11, 2021 20:31:47 GMT -5
Lot of hard questions need to asked not just in the immediate weeks to come in relation to the deadline, but this winter in what needs tweaking up and down the organization.
If this club wants to go for it in the 2nd half, they should go balls out and actually do something impactful. Acquire a top notch SPer, acquire a LHB like Gallo or Benintendi, enough of the half-ass approach they've always implemented around July 31st deadline. As I said earlier in the week, I am not sure this group deserves to add reinforcements, but what we've seen in the past is they've made marginal moves and got marginal results out of it. Time to step up or shut up, with the luxury tax it'll probably be the latter.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 11, 2021 20:37:21 GMT -5
Lot of hard questions need to asked not just in the immediate weeks to come in relation to the deadline, but this winter in what needs tweaking up and down the organization. If this club wants to go for it in the 2nd half, they should go balls out and actually do something impactful. Acquire a top notch SPer, acquire a LHB like Gallo or Benintendi, enough of the half-ass approach they've always implemented around July 31st deadline. As I said earlier in the week, I am not sure this group deserves to add reinforcements, but what we've seen in the past is they've made marginal moves and got marginal results out of it. Time to step up or shut up, with the luxury tax it'll probably be the latter. Yea I'm so tired of the "Just wait they start doing what the back of their baseball card says they will!!!!" |
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Post by maizeyanks on Jul 11, 2021 20:44:29 GMT -5
Lot of hard questions need to asked not just in the immediate weeks to come in relation to the deadline, but this winter in what needs tweaking up and down the organization. If this club wants to go for it in the 2nd half, they should go balls out and actually do something impactful. Acquire a top notch SPer, acquire a LHB like Gallo or Benintendi, enough of the half-ass approach they've always implemented around July 31st deadline. As I said earlier in the week, I am not sure this group deserves to add reinforcements, but what we've seen in the past is they've made marginal moves and got marginal results out of it. Time to step up or shut up, with the luxury tax it'll probably be the latter. Yea I'm so tired of the "Just wait they start doing what the back of their baseball card says they will!!!!" And granted that usually worked for the Yanks for two decades, until 2020 and now 2021. Time is now to either get them jump-started in a big way by adding something significant or peel back and think long and hard this winter why 2/3 of this roster has a hard time going 1st to 3rd in a game now that asks for supreme athleticism. |
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Post by acuraman on Jul 11, 2021 21:26:06 GMT -5
Ooooof. Thats awful.
Good to see ya Ac-man! How have you been? Been good, I see everyone is doing well, everyone, except the Yankees. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 11, 2021 22:16:11 GMT -5
Yet they keep pitching to him..
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Post by inger on Jul 11, 2021 22:22:48 GMT -5
I'm trying to keep perspective here. Its only one game. We had a 4-2 trip. But it certainly stings. Should be no worse than 2-3 GB in AL East even with how poorly they've played, overall a downright disaster of a 1st half given the expectations. They cant just hold serve now the first few weeks of 2nd half, 8 games vs BOS, they can't be 4-4, no room for error. They have to go 6-2 or better if they want to get back in AL East hunt. I thought Yanks had a really good shot at the WS this year, but the caveat was that I figured they'd win the AL East and get home field advantage throughout playoffs, which would be a huge benefactor. No way they get home field now, and they're gonna have to win small sample wild card series and division series on the road. That's even if they're lucky enough to make the playoffs as one of last few seeds. Sorry to say, but there is no such thing as “should be”. There is only “AM”… |
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Post by inger on Jul 11, 2021 22:29:18 GMT -5
Boone and Green were also subject to, “The Rule”. Green had to pitch to at least three batters.
Someone said earlier that at 7-2 we could have tried Chapman. If he had nothing after three batters, make the change. I would have gone to Chapman, unless there is an issue I’m not aware of…
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Post by inger on Jul 11, 2021 22:35:11 GMT -5
I remember the Scutaro game vs. Mariano. So this is nothing new. But we have had some truly bizarre losses this year between the Chapman and Green blow-up games… there have been at least 4 times that we were really crunched at the end… I don’t think if I’ve ever witnessed so many melt-downs like these in a half-season of baseball before…
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Post by rizzuto on Jul 11, 2021 23:06:46 GMT -5
Stanton has a 131 OPS+, second to only Judge. He costs the Yankees 25 million per year AAV, not 30. And, his swing looks nothing like the recommendations of Charlie Lau. I understand all of that, Rizz. The one thing in that whole paragraph I’m not getting anymore is OPS. You take two numbers that have nothing to do with each other and you add them together. With OPS itself not being an accurate assessment of a hitter, his then does OPS+ become meaningful. It’s Noetsi math. Don’t misunderstand, it has meaning, but I don’t think it’s as accurate as the baseball world seems to think it is…It’s only a basic understanding of two important skill sets combined. Maybe it’s the best that can be done, but I don’t think so. Anyway, I was just venting. I recognize the difference between what Stanton is doing and the helicopter swing theory. The dude is hitting Line drives. If he could do so should making better contact he’d have a great season. Strange, not long ago in another thread, you were advocating for OPS+, and I wrote my caution for the primary use of that measure. What changed your mind? And, Noetsi never lists OPS or OPS+, usually only batting average. So, what measures should I use now to indicate that Stanton is hardly the problem offensively? His batting average is right in line with his career average, as is his OBP. He’s second on the team in home runs and RBI. What metrics are you now using to evaluate performance? |
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Post by rizzuto on Jul 11, 2021 23:19:13 GMT -5
Yet they keep pitching to him.. Where is that awful tattoo near his clavicle that his teammates were saying was the reason for his shirt squeezing? There was no evidence of ever having a tattoo, much less a removal of one. |
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