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Post by domeplease on Feb 21, 2022 16:39:25 GMT -5
The Value Of The MLBPA’s Super Two Proposal
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Post by kaybli on Feb 21, 2022 19:08:59 GMT -5
If the stadium emits white smoke, it means they have a deal.
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Post by kaybli on Feb 21, 2022 19:11:14 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 21, 2022 20:27:10 GMT -5
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 21, 2022 20:34:18 GMT -5
Progress of a kind. I doubt either of those issues were significant to either side. Probably concessions to appear reasonable and acting in good faith. Sounds like an Inger move trading baseball cards as a kid, “I’ll also throw in a Fred “Chicken” Stanley rookie card.” Perhaps a bad example, as Inger was likely no longer a kid when Stanley’s rookie card was available. |
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Post by inger on Feb 21, 2022 20:48:53 GMT -5
Progress of a kind. I doubt either of those issues were significant to either side. Probably concessions to appear reasonable and acting in good faith. Sounds like an Inger move trading baseball cards as a kid, “I’ll also throw in a Fred “Chicken” Stanley rookie card.” Perhaps a bad example, as Inger was likely no longer a kid when Stanley’s rookie card was available. Plus, nobody got any Yankees out of me. They were all keepers. Give me 100 Bud Daley’s over a single Oriole of any pedigree… |
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Post by inger on Feb 21, 2022 21:10:35 GMT -5
Progress of a kind. I doubt either of those issues were significant to either side. Probably concessions to appear reasonable and acting in good faith. Sounds like an Inger move trading baseball cards as a kid, “I’ll also throw in a Fred “Chicken” Stanley rookie card.” Perhaps a bad example, as Inger was likely no longer a kid when Stanley’s rookie card was available. I was 15 by the time Stanley made his MLB debut with the Seattle Pilots. Mom had already unconditionally released all of my baseball cards without informing me prior to the decision to do so. She was such a neat freak I guess that shoebox under the bed was more than she could stand. A decision was made that I needed to “grow up”. Pleasurable belongings were no longer to be mine… |
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 21, 2022 21:28:34 GMT -5
Progress of a kind. I doubt either of those issues were significant to either side. Probably concessions to appear reasonable and acting in good faith. Sounds like an Inger move trading baseball cards as a kid, “I’ll also throw in a Fred “Chicken” Stanley rookie card.” Perhaps a bad example, as Inger was likely no longer a kid when Stanley’s rookie card was available. I was 15 by the time Stanley made his MLB debut with the Seattle Pilots. Mom had already unconditionally released all of my baseball cards without informing me prior to the decision to do so. She was such a neat freak I guess that shoebox under the bed was more than she could stand. A decision was made that I needed to “grow up”. Pleasurable belongings were no longer to be mine… Yep, nothing more of an eye-sore than that hiding under a bed. It's like when my father shouted at me, "I can't wait until you get the hell out of this house and get a job!" My reply, "I'm nine years old." I still remember watching the eerily similar art reflects life scene in Groundhog Day with Brian Doyle Murray. Watching in a theater with my late great best buddy Dave Fontenot. Dave loved that movie and anything with Bill Murray. |
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Post by inger on Feb 21, 2022 22:27:40 GMT -5
I was 15 by the time Stanley made his MLB debut with the Seattle Pilots. Mom had already unconditionally released all of my baseball cards without informing me prior to the decision to do so. She was such a neat freak I guess that shoebox under the bed was more than she could stand. A decision was made that I needed to “grow up”. Pleasurable belongings were no longer to be mine… Yep, nothing more of an eye-sore than that hiding under a bed. It's like when my father shouted at me, "I can't wait until you get the hell out of this house and get a job!" My reply, "I'm nine years old." I still remember watching the eerily similar art reflects life scene in Groundhog Day with Brian Doyle Murray. Watching in a theater with my late great best buddy Dave Fontenot. Dave loved that movie and anything with Bill Murray. I was 14 when we moved a couple miles out of town. My older brother, who was buying the house informed me that I had to quit my job. About six months later a neighbor informed my brother that it was “wrong” for me to not have a job at that age, and spoke of how he was working at 12 or 14, so my brother told me I needed to get one. These are the kind of inconsistent messages I got when growing up that kept be depressed and fed my anxiety. I got a job quickly and would walk home nights after work about 9-10:00. I found it to be a good growth experience and rather enjoyed the walk to be honest, sometimes refusing rides. The humor in the above situation is that the neighbor with all the advice later turned out to be my brother in law, and I learned that he never worked a day in his life until he got out of high school at 18. Just a lying meddler… |
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 21, 2022 22:40:48 GMT -5
Yep, nothing more of an eye-sore than that hiding under a bed. It's like when my father shouted at me, "I can't wait until you get the hell out of this house and get a job!" My reply, "I'm nine years old." I still remember watching the eerily similar art reflects life scene in Groundhog Day with Brian Doyle Murray. Watching in a theater with my late great best buddy Dave Fontenot. Dave loved that movie and anything with Bill Murray. I was 14 when we moved a couple miles out of town. My older brother, who was buying the house informed me that I had to quit my job. About six months later a neighbor informed my brother that it was “wrong” for me to not have a job at that age, and spoke of how he was working at 12 or 14, so my brother told me I needed to get one. These are the kind of inconsistent messages I got when growing up that kept be depressed and fed my anxiety. I got a job quickly and would walk home nights after work about 9-10:00. I found it to be a good growth experience and rather enjoyed the walk to be honest, sometimes refusing rides. The humor in the above situation is that the neighbor with all the advice later turned out to be my brother in law, and I learned that he never worked a day in his life until he got out of high school at 18. Just a lying meddler… Or a meddling liar, which is worse? |
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Post by Renfield on Feb 21, 2022 22:43:13 GMT -5
Progress of a kind. I doubt either of those issues were significant to either side. Probably concessions to appear reasonable and acting in good faith. Sounds like an Inger move trading baseball cards as a kid, “I’ll also throw in a Fred “Chicken” Stanley rookie card.” Perhaps a bad example, as Inger was likely no longer a kid when Stanley’s rookie card was available. Plus, nobody got any Yankees out of me. They were all keepers. Give me 100 Bud Daley’s over a single Oriole of any pedigree… I seemed to end up with an extraordinary number of Dooley Womack cards. Nobody wanted to trade me for them. Oh well, at least I got a piece of gum. |
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Post by inger on Feb 21, 2022 23:21:57 GMT -5
I was 14 when we moved a couple miles out of town. My older brother, who was buying the house informed me that I had to quit my job. About six months later a neighbor informed my brother that it was “wrong” for me to not have a job at that age, and spoke of how he was working at 12 or 14, so my brother told me I needed to get one. These are the kind of inconsistent messages I got when growing up that kept be depressed and fed my anxiety. I got a job quickly and would walk home nights after work about 9-10:00. I found it to be a good growth experience and rather enjoyed the walk to be honest, sometimes refusing rides. The humor in the above situation is that the neighbor with all the advice later turned out to be my brother in law, and I learned that he never worked a day in his life until he got out of high school at 18. Just a lying meddler… Or a meddling liar, which is worse? The poor man was filled with false bravado. He was too delicate for life. Became an alcoholic a few years later, destroying his marriage. Got remarried to a lady who did a lot of drugs, switching his medicine of choice to cocaine. His body withered into bones while his heart increased in size to threefold that of normal and he passed away from heart failure at 40… it was sad, but predictable… |
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Post by inger on Feb 21, 2022 23:23:15 GMT -5
Plus, nobody got any Yankees out of me. They were all keepers. Give me 100 Bud Daley’s over a single Oriole of any pedigree… I seemed to end up with an extraordinary number of Dooley Womack cards. Nobody wanted to trade me for them. Oh well, at least I got a piece of gum. As Bouton said “THE Dooley Womack?”… lol… |
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Post by domeplease on Feb 22, 2022 16:12:17 GMT -5
THE GOOSE speaks his mind (Tequila likes Goose--she might think he is another Bird???)
How to end MLB lockout? Let Goose Gossage fight Rob Manfred.
Legendary Yankees pitcher Goose Gossage is ready to burn another bridge in retirement for the sake of baseball: by punching Rob Manfred in the face.
In an interview with USA Today's Bob Nightengale, Hall of Fame pitcher Goose Gossage reveals what he's been up to these days. "Nothing but burning bridges," Gossage said, and his latest declaration proves that he's had it with today's MLB.
Gossage could potentially end the MLB lockout with a punch to Rob Manfred, and he'd like to stick New York Yankees executive Brian Cashman in a trash can.
Goose Gossage wants to punch Rob Manfred
Gossage went into detail for his disdain for Manfred, revealing that he's been wanting to punch Manfred since last year's Hall of Fame induction ceremony.
"I hate that mother (expletive)" Gossage told USA Today. "You know how much I hate him? I called (Hall of Fame chairman) Jane Forbes Clark before the induction last year and said, 'Jane, I don't know where you stand with this guy, but I may punch Rob Manfred right in the (expletive) nose and spatter his (expletive) nose all over his (expletive) face right in the lobby of your hotel."
Gossage is also opposed to the fact that David Ortiz will be inducted into the Hall of Fame due to his use of PED in 2003.
"They're all phonies to me," Gossage said of those who used PED during their careers, including Ortiz, Roger Clemens, and Barry Bonds.
Gossage cites a multitude of factors that have ruined the game of baseball for him, including the MLB management "puppets", the "glorified babysitter" coaches, and today's players who lack the game's fundamentals.
"It breaks my heart to see what has happened to this game," Gossage said. "They tore my heart out and cut it up… They ruined the game. I can't even watch a baseball game."
The man Gossage holds responsible for this and for literally stopping the game with the lockout is Rob Manfred. Although Gossage held back during his Hall of Fame ceremony, if Manfred continues to ruin the game, Gossage may be the only hope of ending the lockout with a knockout.
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 22, 2022 19:14:29 GMT -5
I don't think the players should be giving up anything, their offer is fair, I just wonder if they have the strength and willingness to stick to their guns?
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