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Post by domeplease on Mar 3, 2022 18:58:43 GMT -5
AND as ALWAYS the Little Guys Suffer (DAMN THE OWNERS TO HELL):
The first two series of this year’s Major League Baseball season were canceled Tuesday after MLB and the players union failed to strike up a new labor deal to end a lockout that has stretch into its third month.
But players are not the only ones who will miss out on a paycheck — stadium workers will, too. And for some of those workers, the checks have already stopped.
“It just seems like we’re just turning back around,” said George Hancock, a lead concessions worker entering his 11th year at Oriole Park at Camden Yards in Baltimore. “It seems like every year for the last two years — going on three now — something’s wrong.”
In 2020, workers were largely shut out by a shortened season and empty stands. Last year, they needed to adapt to Covid safety protocols and stadium capacity restrictions.
Hancock depends solely on baseball to get by. Right now, especially amid consumer price hikes, he said, his “mind is spinning.”
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 3, 2022 19:06:58 GMT -5
WE were wondering if this NO GAME SEASON goes on for a few more weeks = What impact would it have on the posters on this board.
Tequila thinks without Yankee Games for weeks this is what might happen to you all (Posters & Spouses too...)
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Kaybli will look like this:
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AND Do Me will remain the same; for I am Mushroom Protected against adverse events...!!!
LOL, I wish I could grow a beard that long. In college, this guy from my dorm had facial hair so heavy, he had to shave twice a day. I swear, one day he grew a full beard during chemistry class.  |
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 3, 2022 19:29:22 GMT -5
That is some strong stuff from Ross Stripling. Good for him. When even a button-down guy like Mike Trout speaks up, you know it's bad. Of all the work-stoppages baseball has had, this one is the most disproportionately on the owners. There is going to be some lingering bitterness for sure. Bargaining in good faith, indeed. I cannot say this is surprising. This group of owners seem far removed from the actual game of baseball. Old George Steinbrenner's ego was tied to winning of the World Series, not the highest profit margin and treating stadium workers like peasants. My last clue that this lockout would sacrifice some of the season was the answer to the MLBPA, who wanted to discuss minor league players, service time manipulation, and tanking for higher draft picks. The owners responded with a proposal that the top three in rookie of the year voting would receive a full season of service time credit. Ludicrous. Why not have every team in each league compete in a Rock Paper Scissors contest? Winner in each league gets the two highest draft picks, alternating each round. The owners have probably already calculated how many games can be lost yet still receive the full package of television money. I heard on the Buster Olney podcast that it's around 140 games. These idiots are gambling that the players will cave and not sacrifice an entire season. The owners just do not realize that even die-hard baseball fans are not happy with the product on the field, and there are still open wounds from 1994, which cost Montreal a franchise and nearly Toronto, which took twenty years to recover. Cleveland and Detroit - two historic franchises - are barely hanging on. A strike could kill those clubs just like the Expos, who had the best record in baseball in 1994. There are no more Cal Ripkin-Lou Gehrig consecutive games played races and steroid home run chases to save the league this time. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 3, 2022 20:51:03 GMT -5
That is some strong stuff from Ross Stripling. Good for him. When even a button-down guy like Mike Trout speaks up, you know it's bad. Of all the work-stoppages baseball has had, this one is the most disproportionately on the owners. There is going to be some lingering bitterness for sure. Bargaining in good faith, indeed. I cannot say this is surprising. This group of owners seem far removed from the actual game of baseball. Old George Steinbrenner's ego was tied to winning of the World Series, not the highest profit margin and treating stadium workers like peasants. My last clue that this lockout would sacrifice some of the season was the answer to the MLBPA, who wanted to discuss minor league players, service time manipulation, and tanking for higher draft picks. The owners responded with a proposal that the top three in rookie of the year voting would receive a full season of service time credit. Ludicrous. Why not have every team in each league compete in a Rock Paper Scissors contest? Winner in each league gets the two highest draft picks, alternating each round. The owners have probably already calculated how many games can be lost yet still receive the full package of television money. I heard on the Buster Olney podcast that it's around 140 games. These idiots are gambling that the players will cave and not sacrifice an entire season. The owners just do not realize that even die-hard baseball fans are not happy with the product on the field, and there are still open wounds from 1994, which cost Montreal a franchise and nearly Toronto, which took twenty years to recover. Cleveland and Detroit - two historic franchises - are barely hanging on. A strike could kill those clubs just like the Expos, who had the best record in baseball in 1994. There are no more Cal Ripkin-Lou Gehrig consecutive games played races and steroid home run chases to save the league this time. I had read somewhere that the full broadcast money varies from team to team, but was between 135 and 150 games. I don't know where the Yankees fit in that spectrum. I think we could add Pittsburgh to the list of historic franchises that could be endangered. I don't have a sense of which owners, if any, just want to settle and which are prepared to go nuclear. Whatever their flaws, those paternalistic old school owners from my youth like Tom Yawkey, Gene Autry, Bob Carpenter, Gussie Busch, etc. genuinely loved the game of baseball and understood they had a civic responsibility. Even the more brash nouveau-riche owners of the next generation -- The Boss, Ted Turner, Charlie Finley -- at least, as you noted, had their considerable egos invested in the success of their teams. This current group of mostly faceless oligarchs are more like hedge fund jackals, trying to rip as much flesh from the body as they can. |
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 3, 2022 23:07:11 GMT -5
Bargaining in good faith, indeed. I cannot say this is surprising. This group of owners seem far removed from the actual game of baseball. Old George Steinbrenner's ego was tied to winning of the World Series, not the highest profit margin and treating stadium workers like peasants. My last clue that this lockout would sacrifice some of the season was the answer to the MLBPA, who wanted to discuss minor league players, service time manipulation, and tanking for higher draft picks. The owners responded with a proposal that the top three in rookie of the year voting would receive a full season of service time credit. Ludicrous. Why not have every team in each league compete in a Rock Paper Scissors contest? Winner in each league gets the two highest draft picks, alternating each round. The owners have probably already calculated how many games can be lost yet still receive the full package of television money. I heard on the Buster Olney podcast that it's around 140 games. These idiots are gambling that the players will cave and not sacrifice an entire season. The owners just do not realize that even die-hard baseball fans are not happy with the product on the field, and there are still open wounds from 1994, which cost Montreal a franchise and nearly Toronto, which took twenty years to recover. Cleveland and Detroit - two historic franchises - are barely hanging on. A strike could kill those clubs just like the Expos, who had the best record in baseball in 1994. There are no more Cal Ripkin-Lou Gehrig consecutive games played races and steroid home run chases to save the league this time. I had read somewhere that the full broadcast money varies from team to team, but was between 135 and 150 games. I don't know where the Yankees fit in that spectrum. I think we could add Pittsburgh to the list of historic franchises that could be endangered. I don't have a sense of which owners, if any, just want to settle and which are prepared to go nuclear. Whatever their flaws, those paternalistic old school owners from my youth like Tom Yawkey, Gene Autry, Bob Carpenter, Gussie Busch, etc. genuinely loved the game of baseball and understood they had a civic responsibility. Even the more brash nouveau-riche owners of the next generation -- The Boss, Ted Turner, Charlie Finley -- at least, as you noted, had their considerable egos invested in the success of their teams. This current group of mostly faceless oligarchs are more like hedge fund jackals, trying to rip as much flesh from the body as they can. Perfect comparison. |
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Post by inger on Mar 3, 2022 23:32:42 GMT -5
I had read somewhere that the full broadcast money varies from team to team, but was between 135 and 150 games. I don't know where the Yankees fit in that spectrum. I think we could add Pittsburgh to the list of historic franchises that could be endangered. I don't have a sense of which owners, if any, just want to settle and which are prepared to go nuclear. Whatever their flaws, those paternalistic old school owners from my youth like Tom Yawkey, Gene Autry, Bob Carpenter, Gussie Busch, etc. genuinely loved the game of baseball and understood they had a civic responsibility. Even the more brash nouveau-riche owners of the next generation -- The Boss, Ted Turner, Charlie Finley -- at least, as you noted, had their considerable egos invested in the success of their teams. This current group of mostly faceless oligarchs are more like hedge fund jackals, trying to rip as much flesh from the body as they can. Perfect comparison. Agreed. And simply an imitation of all of corporate America. My old employer, AmeriGas, is finally getting theirs. The organization continues to crumble. If someone doesn’t buy them out, they might not be able to hang in. If someone dies but them out, THEY might not be able to survive. So proud to say that I called this 5-6 years ago. I learned too much… I knew shit even the corporate suits didn’t seem to know… death has a smell to it… |
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Post by kaybli on Mar 4, 2022 22:44:25 GMT -5
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 4, 2022 23:09:58 GMT -5
No way the Yankees are missing the playoffs!  |
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Post by inger on Mar 4, 2022 23:36:43 GMT -5
No way the Yankees are missing the playoffs!  True. With this structure the Orioles could slip in… It’s so bad for the game. It’s bad for the Yankees, lacking as much incentive to build a powerhouse team… |
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Post by inger on Mar 4, 2022 23:40:32 GMT -5
No way the Yankees are missing the playoffs! Provided of course, that there is a season… 🤓 |
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Post by domeplease on Mar 5, 2022 18:00:40 GMT -5
Rob Manfred draws lifetime ban from Kalamazoo Growlers.
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 5, 2022 18:18:00 GMT -5
Rob Manfred draws lifetime ban from Kalamazoo Growlers.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if all colleges began taking that stance? Could that send a message that might resonate within the owner’s echo chamber? |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 5, 2022 18:20:37 GMT -5
Rob Manfred draws lifetime ban from Kalamazoo Growlers.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if all colleges began taking that stance? Could that send a message that might resonate with the owner’s echo chamber? Yes it would. Kalamazoo has extra oomph for being Derek Jeter's hometown and the birthplace of Gibson guitars. |
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 5, 2022 22:16:19 GMT -5
yanksgoyard.com/2022/03/05/yankees-tigers-angels-cbt-treshold-hal-steinbrenner/Get a load of this... "Thanks to Evan Drellich’s reporting (subscription required), we know the four ownership groups opposed to raising the luxury tax threshold even to $220 million, a number rejected by the players, were the men behind the Tigers, Angels, Reds and Diamondbacks. So cheap were these owners that they even attempted to tie players’ meal money into the newly-proposed luxury tax number, further reducing the spending power any of them had without “crossing” or approaching the dreaded faux-salary cap." "Hal Steinbrenner is more like these callous men than you’d like to believe because … earlier in the offseason, he voted to drop the $210 million threshold all the way to $180 million, effectively setting a salary cap $30 million below where it currently stands."
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Post by inger on Mar 5, 2022 22:37:01 GMT -5
yanksgoyard.com/2022/03/05/yankees-tigers-angels-cbt-treshold-hal-steinbrenner/Get a load of this... "Thanks to Evan Drellich’s reporting (subscription required), we know the four ownership groups opposed to raising the luxury tax threshold even to $220 million, a number rejected by the players, were the men behind the Tigers, Angels, Reds and Diamondbacks. So cheap were these owners that they even attempted to tie players’ meal money into the newly-proposed luxury tax number, further reducing the spending power any of them had without “crossing” or approaching the dreaded faux-salary cap." "Hal Steinbrenner is more like these callous men than you’d like to believe because … earlier in the offseason, he voted to drop the $210 million threshold all the way to $180 million, effectively setting a salary cap $30 million below where it currently stands." Sometimes we need a dislike button. It’s not that the post is disliked, but rather the information within is so disappointing… |
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