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Post by domeplease on Mar 1, 2022 20:45:24 GMT -5
WELCOME TO STUPID BE STUPID:
On Tuesday, MLB and the MLB Players Association couldn't strike a deal on a new collective bargaining agreement, with the league subsequently canceling the first two series of the regular season.
Commissioner Manfred took to the microphone to announce the cancellations, but then he offered a confusing segue into the league's "revenue issues" over the past five years:
"You also need to remember that the last 5 years have been very difficult years from a revenue perspective for the industry given the pandemic" - Rob Manfred pic.twitter.com/GHLMOIUwVd — SNY (@snytv) March 1, 2022
"You also need to remember that the last five years have been very difficult years from a revenue perspective for the industry given the pandemic," he said.
That statement is confusing at best and misleading at worst. MLB revenue has risen in every year but 2020, the year the COVID-19 pandemic took hold of the planet.
Therefore, it seems like a bit of a stretch to blame the pandemic — which is nearing 2 years old stateside — for a downturn in revenues over the past five seasons.
While Manfred likely meant that the 2020 season torpedoed overall revenue growth over that five-year span, the league has still seen record revenues over the last 20 years. A large part of that is due to record-breaking TV contracts and MLB's partnership with gambling and betting sites, which are the league's predominant revenue streams.
AND, OUR OLD BUDDY, Clint Fraizer said:
i think it might be time to apply for that mcdonald's job everybody said i'd be working.
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Post by inger on Mar 1, 2022 21:18:28 GMT -5
WELCOME TO STUPID BE STUPID:
On Tuesday, MLB and the MLB Players Association couldn't strike a deal on a new collective bargaining agreement, with the league subsequently canceling the first two series of the regular season.
Commissioner Manfred took to the microphone to announce the cancellations, but then he offered a confusing segue into the league's "revenue issues" over the past five years:
"You also need to remember that the last 5 years have been very difficult years from a revenue perspective for the industry given the pandemic" - Rob Manfred pic.twitter.com/GHLMOIUwVd — SNY (@snytv) March 1, 2022
"You also need to remember that the last five years have been very difficult years from a revenue perspective for the industry given the pandemic," he said.
That statement is confusing at best and misleading at worst. MLB revenue has risen in every year but 2020, the year the COVID-19 pandemic took hold of the planet.
Therefore, it seems like a bit of a stretch to blame the pandemic — which is nearing 2 years old stateside — for a downturn in revenues over the past five seasons.
While Manfred likely meant that the 2020 season torpedoed overall revenue growth over that five-year span, the league has still seen record revenues over the last 20 years. A large part of that is due to record-breaking TV contracts and MLB's partnership with gambling and betting sites, which are the league's predominant revenue streams.
AND, OUR OLD BUDDY, Clint Fraizer said:
i think it might be time to apply for that mcdonald's job everybody said i'd be working.
This is commonly what happens when an aeolist takes the lectern. How is it at all equivalent to cancel 6 games at the point of a deadline unless one anticipates that another week and not simply the overmorrow will be required to bring negotiations to a conclusion? And then he found a way to spin a two year old issue into a problem into a five year history, proving himself to be no more than a common blatteroon…
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Post by anthonyd46 on Mar 1, 2022 23:01:43 GMT -5
www.mlb.com/news/featured/a-letter-to-baseball-fansTo Our Fans: I had hoped against hope that I would not have to be in the position of canceling games. We worked hard to avoid an outcome that is bad for our fans, bad for our players and bad for our clubs. I want to assure our fans that our failure to reach an agreement was not due to a lack of effort on the part of either party. The Players came here for nine days, worked hard and tried to make a deal. I appreciate their effort. Our committee of Club representatives committed to the process, offered compromise after compromise, and hung in past the deadline to exhaust all efforts to reach an agreement. So far, we have failed to achieve our mutual goal of a fair deal. The unfortunate thing is that the agreement we have offered has huge benefits for fans and players. We have listened to the Players Association throughout this process. A primary goal of the Players Association has been to increase pay for younger players. As I have said previously, we agree and share that goal. We offered to raise the minimum salary to $700,000, an increase of $130,000 from 2021. We offered to create an annual bonus pool of $30 million for the very best young players. In total, we are offering a 33% raise to nearly two-thirds of Major League players and adding more than $100 million annually in additional compensation for younger players. The proposal also addressed player and fan concerns about issues like service time and competitive issues. Baseball would for the first time have a draft lottery -- the most aggressive in professional sports. Also, for the first time ever, we agreed to an incentive system to encourage clubs to promote top prospects to their Opening Day rosters. We also proposed that the first and second-place finishers in the Rookie of the Year voting in each league would receive a full year of service. The MLBPA asked to make free agency more robust. For the first time ever, we agreed to eliminate direct draft pick compensation, a change the MLBPA has sought for decades. On the Competitive Balance Tax, we offered a significantly larger first-year increase than in the last two agreements, bearing in mind that the Competitive Balance Tax is the only mechanism in the agreement that protects some semblance of a level playing field among clubs. The International Draft would have more fairly allocated talent among the clubs and reduced abuses in some international markets. We also listened to our fans. The expanded playoffs would bring the excitement of meaningful September baseball and postseason baseball to fans in more of our markets. While we preferred a 14-team format, when the format became a significant obstacle, we listened to the players’ concerns, and offered to compromise by accepting their 12-team format. Finally, we offered a procedural agreement that would allow for the timely implementation of sorely needed rules like the pitch timer and elimination of shifts to improve the entertainment value of the game on the field. And we agreed to the universal DH. So, what is next? The calendar dictates that we are not going to be able to play the first two series of regular season games and those games are officially canceled. We are prepared to continue negotiations. We have been informed that the MLBPA is headed back to New York meaning that no agreement is possible until at least Thursday. Currently, camps could not meaningfully operate until at least March 8th, leaving only 23 days before scheduled Opening Day. We played without an agreement in 1994 and the players went on strike in August, forcing the cancellation of the World Series. It was a painful chapter in our game’s history. We cannot risk such an outcome again for our fans and our sport. The Clubs and our owners fully understand just how important it is to our millions of fans that we get the game on the field as soon as possible. To that end, we want to bargain and we want a deal with the Players Association as quickly as possible.
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Post by inger on Mar 1, 2022 23:17:41 GMT -5
www.mlb.com/news/featured/a-letter-to-baseball-fansTo Our Fans: I had hoped against hope that I would not have to be in the position of canceling games. We worked hard to avoid an outcome that is bad for our fans, bad for our players and bad for our clubs. I want to assure our fans that our failure to reach an agreement was not due to a lack of effort on the part of either party. The Players came here for nine days, worked hard and tried to make a deal. I appreciate their effort. Our committee of Club representatives committed to the process, offered compromise after compromise, and hung in past the deadline to exhaust all efforts to reach an agreement. So far, we have failed to achieve our mutual goal of a fair deal. The unfortunate thing is that the agreement we have offered has huge benefits for fans and players. We have listened to the Players Association throughout this process. A primary goal of the Players Association has been to increase pay for younger players. As I have said previously, we agree and share that goal. We offered to raise the minimum salary to $700,000, an increase of $130,000 from 2021. We offered to create an annual bonus pool of $30 million for the very best young players. In total, we are offering a 33% raise to nearly two-thirds of Major League players and adding more than $100 million annually in additional compensation for younger players. The proposal also addressed player and fan concerns about issues like service time and competitive issues. Baseball would for the first time have a draft lottery -- the most aggressive in professional sports. Also, for the first time ever, we agreed to an incentive system to encourage clubs to promote top prospects to their Opening Day rosters. We also proposed that the first and second-place finishers in the Rookie of the Year voting in each league would receive a full year of service. The MLBPA asked to make free agency more robust. For the first time ever, we agreed to eliminate direct draft pick compensation, a change the MLBPA has sought for decades. On the Competitive Balance Tax, we offered a significantly larger first-year increase than in the last two agreements, bearing in mind that the Competitive Balance Tax is the only mechanism in the agreement that protects some semblance of a level playing field among clubs. The International Draft would have more fairly allocated talent among the clubs and reduced abuses in some international markets. We also listened to our fans. The expanded playoffs would bring the excitement of meaningful September baseball and postseason baseball to fans in more of our markets. While we preferred a 14-team format, when the format became a significant obstacle, we listened to the players’ concerns, and offered to compromise by accepting their 12-team format. Finally, we offered a procedural agreement that would allow for the timely implementation of sorely needed rules like the pitch timer and elimination of shifts to improve the entertainment value of the game on the field. And we agreed to the universal DH. So, what is next? The calendar dictates that we are not going to be able to play the first two series of regular season games and those games are officially canceled. We are prepared to continue negotiations. We have been informed that the MLBPA is headed back to New York meaning that no agreement is possible until at least Thursday. Currently, camps could not meaningfully operate until at least March 8th, leaving only 23 days before scheduled Opening Day. We played without an agreement in 1994 and the players went on strike in August, forcing the cancellation of the World Series. It was a painful chapter in our game’s history. We cannot risk such an outcome again for our fans and our sport. The Clubs and our owners fully understand just how important it is to our millions of fans that we get the game on the field as soon as possible. To that end, we want to bargain and we want a deal with the Players Association as quickly as possible. Noted that this becomes more self-serving the longer the statement gets, spinning the blame onto the player’s plates by describing the sacrifices of the owners but not the player concessions. About what you’d expect… It can only expand the acrimony between the parties…
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Post by kaybli on Mar 2, 2022 0:37:42 GMT -5
Well that was disappointing.
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Post by kaybli on Mar 2, 2022 0:48:13 GMT -5
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Post by domeplease on Mar 2, 2022 13:32:21 GMT -5
Not that Rob Manfred would care, but his smirking and laughing visage as he announced the first cancellations of the 2022 regular season, which caused just about every baseball fan to have an urge to reach through their screens and thrust their fist through to the back of his skull, is the image that will endure.
The joke, or hunch, or belief, has always been that Manfred doesn’t really like baseball. He’s a labor lawyer, a labor lawyer for the ownership and management side. He’s only there to aid the owners, who themselves are at best indifferent to baseball.
They only see it as a vehicle for their portfolios or real estate deals in their fantasies. Manfred is the perfect leader for them. He’s only here to spar with the players and make as much money for the owners as he can. Actual baseball doesn’t really enter into it. It’s a side to it all. That perceived glee as Manfred took baseball away from its fans confirmed all those suspicions.
When you look at this “final proposal” that the owners put forth, that they won’t move off of, that they thought was worth digging their heels in, that will probably cause the season to be delayed a month at least, it’s clear how craven all of this is. A rise in the minimum salary from $570K to $700K is worth, what, a few hundred thousand to each team? Maybe a million? Additionally, it was only $25K off what the players were asking the minimum be raised to. Again, how much per team? It’s what these owners would find in their couches.
The $55 million bonus pool for pre-arb players? Not even $2 million per team. It doesn’t even matter what the difference in luxury tax thresholds and penalties were, because there was nothing in the proposals to compel teams to spend it, or over it. There was no salary floor. The owners could continue to behave as they have been, which has destroyed the game.
That’s how desperate these 30 vampire squids are to suck up every dollar they can, even the amounts they wouldn’t actually notice. Franchise values and the league’s income have skyrocketed, and yet it’s never enough. They can’t stop chasing to satisfy their cravings.
As Joe Sheehan said:
It’s amazing how these monstrous capitalists suddenly go for socialism in a certain situation.
So Manfred can get up there and lie about the owners’ situations, or how the game’s coiffeurs have grown lately, or how baseball has a competitive balance problem without a salary cap, and it doesn’t matter. He doesn’t like the game, so it doesn’t matter if he sullies it. It’s not what he’s here for. That new deal with TBS? That’s what he’s here for.
And the fans won’t get their game back, and get rid of the 30 unfeeling money vacuums who have turned the game into nothing more than another leveraged buyout, and let the actual product become stale, and done nothing to relate it to current and future generations, until this version dies, burnt to the ground. Let old things die. Only then will something better arise, if that’s even possible.
Let them lock out a whole season. Let’s see 15,000 in Yankee Stadium in July of 2023. Scar the game in such a way to ruin their investments. Watch franchise values, with horrific ratings and falling attendance and a staunch refusal from state and local governments to aid them in any way, plummet. Make them get out, or force them to change the game on the field and off of it in a way to promote actual competition instead of merely a field for harvesting cash.
Baseball was on its way down long before Manfred put it into overdrive. Once the owners booted Fay Vincent to install nerdy ghoul/compadre Bud Selig as the game’s steward, we’ve been headed here. It’s too far gone now, because baseball is run by people who only see what’s right in front of their faces and not what’s down the block.
So let them destroy it. It’s their way. Suck everything out that they can and leave a deflating husk, and then move on. From the husk we can do better. Even the NHL, after they blew up the league in 2005, came back with rule changes and other things to make for a more exciting product.
That’s what baseball needs. Steer into the skid until we hit the ravine. It’s the only way.
...Manfred’s words were laughable and completely divorced from reality, considering the league and owners did not sit down with players face to face until the waning days of January on a collective bargaining agreement that expired Dec. 1.
Nearly 80 days into a lockout at 90 days and counting, the sides had met just a half-dozen times, including one inspired attempt that lasted 15 minutes.
Remember, Manfred and the owners did this. They locked out the players. Those in uniform did not strike.
That parks the anvil of responsibility squarely on the shoulders of those with the most money in the game who tossed locks on the gates. Period.
Nobody in baseball cares deeply enough to save the game from the people who run it.
DO ME/TEQUILA NOTE: WE are really Pissed off at the Owners = WE hope they choke on their $$$!!! Manfred is awful, awful, awful...
WE are looking around, on how to shift our addiction to BB to something else:
--Mexican BB we have a league in Baja --costs like nothing toi watch in person. --Spend more time watching Golf and maybe playing Golf again. --Spend more time getting into watching ALL March Madness Games --Watch more Curling on TV -- Best to do on Mushrooms --Figure out how to get Minor League BB games to watch --Start playing p-u Softball Games again--we have here at times.
To be HONEST = I have loss some of my BB adiction and doubt I will get this some % loss back. If BB continues to FU might lose more of me as a MLB Fan. SAD!!! But I am NOT the only one...
Tequila thinks the FANS should STRIKE!!! I think she is on to something--CAN WE organize a STRIKE on this Forum and help Spread IT???
Maybe a letter signed by all of us to OWNERS and most important to the MEDIA!!! If MEDIA picks it up --it could spread.
KAYBLI--Please start drafting the Short but Powerful Letter--WE ALL will help with input.
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Post by inger on Mar 2, 2022 14:35:55 GMT -5
Not that Rob Manfred would care, but his smirking and laughing visage as he announced the first cancellations of the 2022 regular season, which caused just about every baseball fan to have an urge to reach through their screens and thrust their fist through to the back of his skull, is the image that will endure.
The joke, or hunch, or belief, has always been that Manfred doesn’t really like baseball. He’s a labor lawyer, a labor lawyer for the ownership and management side. He’s only there to aid the owners, who themselves are at best indifferent to baseball.
They only see it as a vehicle for their portfolios or real estate deals in their fantasies. Manfred is the perfect leader for them. He’s only here to spar with the players and make as much money for the owners as he can. Actual baseball doesn’t really enter into it. It’s a side to it all. That perceived glee as Manfred took baseball away from its fans confirmed all those suspicions.
When you look at this “final proposal” that the owners put forth, that they won’t move off of, that they thought was worth digging their heels in, that will probably cause the season to be delayed a month at least, it’s clear how craven all of this is. A rise in the minimum salary from $570K to $700K is worth, what, a few hundred thousand to each team? Maybe a million? Additionally, it was only $25K off what the players were asking the minimum be raised to. Again, how much per team? It’s what these owners would find in their couches.
The $55 million bonus pool for pre-arb players? Not even $2 million per team. It doesn’t even matter what the difference in luxury tax thresholds and penalties were, because there was nothing in the proposals to compel teams to spend it, or over it. There was no salary floor. The owners could continue to behave as they have been, which has destroyed the game.
That’s how desperate these 30 vampire squids are to suck up every dollar they can, even the amounts they wouldn’t actually notice. Franchise values and the league’s income have skyrocketed, and yet it’s never enough. They can’t stop chasing to satisfy their cravings.
As Joe Sheehan said:
It’s amazing how these monstrous capitalists suddenly go for socialism in a certain situation.
So Manfred can get up there and lie about the owners’ situations, or how the game’s coiffeurs have grown lately, or how baseball has a competitive balance problem without a salary cap, and it doesn’t matter. He doesn’t like the game, so it doesn’t matter if he sullies it. It’s not what he’s here for. That new deal with TBS? That’s what he’s here for.
And the fans won’t get their game back, and get rid of the 30 unfeeling money vacuums who have turned the game into nothing more than another leveraged buyout, and let the actual product become stale, and done nothing to relate it to current and future generations, until this version dies, burnt to the ground. Let old things die. Only then will something better arise, if that’s even possible.
Let them lock out a whole season. Let’s see 15,000 in Yankee Stadium in July of 2023. Scar the game in such a way to ruin their investments. Watch franchise values, with horrific ratings and falling attendance and a staunch refusal from state and local governments to aid them in any way, plummet. Make them get out, or force them to change the game on the field and off of it in a way to promote actual competition instead of merely a field for harvesting cash.
Baseball was on its way down long before Manfred put it into overdrive. Once the owners booted Fay Vincent to install nerdy ghoul/compadre Bud Selig as the game’s steward, we’ve been headed here. It’s too far gone now, because baseball is run by people who only see what’s right in front of their faces and not what’s down the block.
So let them destroy it. It’s their way. Suck everything out that they can and leave a deflating husk, and then move on. From the husk we can do better. Even the NHL, after they blew up the league in 2005, came back with rule changes and other things to make for a more exciting product.
That’s what baseball needs. Steer into the skid until we hit the ravine. It’s the only way.
...Manfred’s words were laughable and completely divorced from reality, considering the league and owners did not sit down with players face to face until the waning days of January on a collective bargaining agreement that expired Dec. 1.
Nearly 80 days into a lockout at 90 days and counting, the sides had met just a half-dozen times, including one inspired attempt that lasted 15 minutes.
Remember, Manfred and the owners did this. They locked out the players. Those in uniform did not strike.
That parks the anvil of responsibility squarely on the shoulders of those with the most money in the game who tossed locks on the gates. Period.
Nobody in baseball cares deeply enough to save the game from the people who run it.
DO ME/TEQUILA NOTE: WE are really Pissed off at the Owners = WE hope they choke on their $$$!!! Manfred is awful, awful, awful...
WE are looking around, on how to shift our addiction to BB to something else:
--Mexican BB we have a league in Baja --costs like nothing toi watch in person. --Spend more time watching Golf and maybe playing Golf again. --Spend more time getting into watching ALL March Madness Games --Watch more Curling on TV -- Best to do on Mushrooms --Figure out how to get Minor League BB games to watch --Start playing p-u Softball Games again--we have here at times.
To be HONEST = I have loss some of my BB adiction and doubt I will get this some % loss back. If BB continues to FU might lose more of me as a MLB Fan. SAD!!! But I am NOT the only one...
Tequila thinks the FANS should STRIKE!!! I think she is on to something--CAN WE organize a STRIKE on this Forum and help Spread IT???
Maybe a letter signed by all of us to OWNERS and most important to the MEDIA!!! If MEDIA picks it up --it could spread.
KAYBLI--Please start drafting the Short but Powerful Letter--WE ALL will help with input.
Yeah. We may become known as the Bronx Bombers 14. That’ll scare the fudge out of those owners… Tell them we are sitted in solidarity. Oh wait… that was a different post. Oh well, remain sitted all…
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Post by domeplease on Mar 2, 2022 16:01:37 GMT -5
Not that Rob Manfred would care, but his smirking and laughing visage as he announced the first cancellations of the 2022 regular season, which caused just about every baseball fan to have an urge to reach through their screens and thrust their fist through to the back of his skull, is the image that will endure.
The joke, or hunch, or belief, has always been that Manfred doesn’t really like baseball. He’s a labor lawyer, a labor lawyer for the ownership and management side. He’s only there to aid the owners, who themselves are at best indifferent to baseball.
They only see it as a vehicle for their portfolios or real estate deals in their fantasies. Manfred is the perfect leader for them. He’s only here to spar with the players and make as much money for the owners as he can. Actual baseball doesn’t really enter into it. It’s a side to it all. That perceived glee as Manfred took baseball away from its fans confirmed all those suspicions.
When you look at this “final proposal” that the owners put forth, that they won’t move off of, that they thought was worth digging their heels in, that will probably cause the season to be delayed a month at least, it’s clear how craven all of this is. A rise in the minimum salary from $570K to $700K is worth, what, a few hundred thousand to each team? Maybe a million? Additionally, it was only $25K off what the players were asking the minimum be raised to. Again, how much per team? It’s what these owners would find in their couches.
The $55 million bonus pool for pre-arb players? Not even $2 million per team. It doesn’t even matter what the difference in luxury tax thresholds and penalties were, because there was nothing in the proposals to compel teams to spend it, or over it. There was no salary floor. The owners could continue to behave as they have been, which has destroyed the game.
That’s how desperate these 30 vampire squids are to suck up every dollar they can, even the amounts they wouldn’t actually notice. Franchise values and the league’s income have skyrocketed, and yet it’s never enough. They can’t stop chasing to satisfy their cravings.
As Joe Sheehan said:
It’s amazing how these monstrous capitalists suddenly go for socialism in a certain situation.
So Manfred can get up there and lie about the owners’ situations, or how the game’s coiffeurs have grown lately, or how baseball has a competitive balance problem without a salary cap, and it doesn’t matter. He doesn’t like the game, so it doesn’t matter if he sullies it. It’s not what he’s here for. That new deal with TBS? That’s what he’s here for.
And the fans won’t get their game back, and get rid of the 30 unfeeling money vacuums who have turned the game into nothing more than another leveraged buyout, and let the actual product become stale, and done nothing to relate it to current and future generations, until this version dies, burnt to the ground. Let old things die. Only then will something better arise, if that’s even possible.
Let them lock out a whole season. Let’s see 15,000 in Yankee Stadium in July of 2023. Scar the game in such a way to ruin their investments. Watch franchise values, with horrific ratings and falling attendance and a staunch refusal from state and local governments to aid them in any way, plummet. Make them get out, or force them to change the game on the field and off of it in a way to promote actual competition instead of merely a field for harvesting cash.
Baseball was on its way down long before Manfred put it into overdrive. Once the owners booted Fay Vincent to install nerdy ghoul/compadre Bud Selig as the game’s steward, we’ve been headed here. It’s too far gone now, because baseball is run by people who only see what’s right in front of their faces and not what’s down the block.
So let them destroy it. It’s their way. Suck everything out that they can and leave a deflating husk, and then move on. From the husk we can do better. Even the NHL, after they blew up the league in 2005, came back with rule changes and other things to make for a more exciting product.
That’s what baseball needs. Steer into the skid until we hit the ravine. It’s the only way.
...Manfred’s words were laughable and completely divorced from reality, considering the league and owners did not sit down with players face to face until the waning days of January on a collective bargaining agreement that expired Dec. 1.
Nearly 80 days into a lockout at 90 days and counting, the sides had met just a half-dozen times, including one inspired attempt that lasted 15 minutes.
Remember, Manfred and the owners did this. They locked out the players. Those in uniform did not strike.
That parks the anvil of responsibility squarely on the shoulders of those with the most money in the game who tossed locks on the gates. Period.
Nobody in baseball cares deeply enough to save the game from the people who run it.
DO ME/TEQUILA NOTE: WE are really Pissed off at the Owners = WE hope they choke on their $$$!!! Manfred is awful, awful, awful...
WE are looking around, on how to shift our addiction to BB to something else:
--Mexican BB we have a league in Baja --costs like nothing toi watch in person. --Spend more time watching Golf and maybe playing Golf again. --Spend more time getting into watching ALL March Madness Games --Watch more Curling on TV -- Best to do on Mushrooms --Figure out how to get Minor League BB games to watch --Start playing p-u Softball Games again--we have here at times.
To be HONEST = I have loss some of my BB adiction and doubt I will get this some % loss back. If BB continues to FU might lose more of me as a MLB Fan. SAD!!! But I am NOT the only one...
Tequila thinks the FANS should STRIKE!!! I think she is on to something--CAN WE organize a STRIKE on this Forum and help Spread IT???
Maybe a letter signed by all of us to OWNERS and most important to the MEDIA!!! If MEDIA picks it up --it could spread.
KAYBLI--Please start drafting the Short but Powerful Letter--WE ALL will help with input.
Yeah. We may become known as the Bronx Bombers 14. That’ll scare the fudge out of those owners… Tell them we are sitted in solidarity. Oh wait… that was a different post. Oh well, remain sitted all…
..."I want to play, I love our game, but I know we need to get this (collective bargaining agreement) right," Trout posted Wednesday in a message to his verified Twitter account.
Los Angeles Angels star Mike Trout sounds off on MLB, Rob Manfred over lockout decision.
..."Instead of bargaining in good faith — MLB locked us out. Instead of negotiating a fair deal — Rob cancelled games.
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Post by kaybli on Mar 3, 2022 7:44:56 GMT -5
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 3, 2022 11:51:54 GMT -5
That is some strong stuff from Ross Stripling. Good for him. When even a button-down guy like Mike Trout speaks up, you know it's bad. Of all the work-stoppages baseball has had, this one is the most disproportionately on the owners. There is going to be some lingering bitterness for sure.
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Post by inger on Mar 3, 2022 16:08:05 GMT -5
That is some strong stuff from Ross Stripling. Good for him. When even a button-down guy like Mike Trout speaks up, you know it's bad. Of all the work-stoppages baseball has had, this one is the most disproportionately on the owners. There is going to be some lingering bitterness for sure. The skunky beer taste of negotiations made in poor spirits…
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Post by domeplease on Mar 3, 2022 17:55:05 GMT -5
WE were wondering if this NO GAME SEASON goes on for a few more weeks = What impact would it have on the posters on this board.
Tequila thinks without Yankee Games for weeks this is what might happen to you all (Posters & Spouses too...)
Kaybli will look like this:
AND The Inger will look like this:
AND Do Me will remain the same; for I am Mushroom Protected against adverse events...!!!
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Post by kaybli on Mar 3, 2022 18:22:42 GMT -5
WE were wondering if this NO GAME SEASON goes on for a few more weeks = What impact would it have on the posters on this board.
Tequila thinks without Yankee Games for weeks this is what might happen to you all (Posters & Spouses too...)
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Kaybli will look like this:
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AND The Inger will look like this:
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AND Do Me will remain the same; for I am Mushroom Protected against adverse events...!!!
LOL, I wish I could grow a beard that long.
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Post by inger on Mar 3, 2022 18:22:43 GMT -5
WE were wondering if this NO GAME SEASON goes on for a few more weeks = What impact would it have on the posters on this board.
Tequila thinks without Yankee Games for weeks this is what might happen to you all (Posters & Spouses too...)
Kaybli will look like this:
AND The Inger will look like this:
AND Do Me will remain the same; for I am Mushroom Protected against adverse events...!!!
Only if I go without shaving for a few hours…
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