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Post by inger on Aug 13, 2018 23:52:04 GMT -5
How much blame does Rothschild get for Gray and 2nd half Sevy not being able to get fixed? Probably little to none. Especially before we figure out what happened...I've read quite a few comments that Sevy must be tipping his pitches, but I have also seen some of those pitches look like beach balls floating up to the plate and stretches where he's not throwing strikes with the slider and no one is biting on them... It's hard to figure what it takes for a hitter to get into pitchers minds so much that they can get them to swing at pitches that are WAY out of the strike the zone. We saw our guys chasing sliders tonight from DeGrom that were so far out that radar wouldn't have picked them up...and they were chasing stuff up in the zone so far that some of it was definitely not in the strike zone...only the umpire was probably just as fooled... |
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Post by greatfatness on Aug 14, 2018 6:51:19 GMT -5
How much blame does Rothschild get for Gray and 2nd half Sevy not being able to get fixed? Coaches and managers probably get too much credit and blame. Rothschild has worked some miracles in his career. This year I think he’s probably closer to what most pitching coaches do - help some struggle to help others. Overall, the Yankees coaching staff seems unexpectional right now from the manager, hitting coach and pitching coach on down, and that’s probably typical of most teams. |
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Post by rizzuto on Aug 14, 2018 8:12:25 GMT -5
I don't think it's a mystery. Severino has demoted his change up to a fourth pitch, and he doesn't have a third. Lack of repetition and use has caused command problems with the pitch, relegating him to a pitcher with two offerings. When he cannot throw his off speed pitches for strikes, batters lay off and sit on his fastball. When his fastball is well placed, they cannot square it up, even if batters know it's coming. When he hasn't, they barrel it up, and his velocity helps their cause. And, he's not pitching inside effectively or often enough, eliminating half of the plate, allowing arms extended on swings. Essentially, he's much like the pitcher we saw prior to last year. Bring in Pedro, fix his change up and approach. The talent is there, he just needs a reboot.
is he tipping pitches? Right now, it's a moot point. He's only offering two, and the slider he cannot command for strikes. Tough to be perfect on a fastball each time it's in the strikezone and MLB hitters sitting on it. And, hanging sliders travel a long way, looking like bad bad fastballs.
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Post by inger on Aug 14, 2018 10:17:45 GMT -5
I don't think it's a mystery. Severino has demoted his change up to a fourth pitch, and he doesn't have a third. Lack of repetition and use has caused command problems with the pitch, relegating him to a pitcher with two offerings. When he cannot throw his off speed pitches for strikes, batters lay off and sit on his fastball. When his fastball is well placed, they cannot square it up, even if batters know it's coming. When he hasn't, they barrel it up, and his velocity helps their cause. And, he's not pitching inside effectively or often enough, eliminating half of the plate, allowing arms extended on swings. Essentially, he's much like the pitcher we saw prior to last year. Bring in Pedro, fix his change up and approach. The talent is there, he just needs a reboot. is he tipping pitches? Right now, it's a moot point. He's only offering two, and the slider he cannot command for strikes. Tough to be perfect on a fastball each time it's in the strikezone and MLB hitters sitting on it. And, hanging sliders travel a long way, looking like bad bad fastballs. There is one mystery here. Coaches, managers, and just about every player in MLB know that a starting pitcher needs three pitches. I'm sure Pedro knows that, and he was the one credited with creating the better version of Severino we've seen. How does a pitcher get away with abandoning a pitch that was a part of his vast improvement? If he's going to get hammered without using the pitch, it would seem to me that he'd be better of continuing to utilize the weapon in games with the hope of being able to depend on it again at some time in the near future. He's getting hit either way it seems to me... His entire demeanor has changed on the mound. For a while he was looking like a young bull in the pasture. He was confident and aggressive. Now, he appears timid, like he knows he's going to make a mistake...I would venture that he may even be taking a bit more time between pitches once he gets runners on. It's like he's surrendering... |
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Post by rizzuto on Aug 14, 2018 18:45:20 GMT -5
I don't think it's a mystery. Severino has demoted his change up to a fourth pitch, and he doesn't have a third. Lack of repetition and use has caused command problems with the pitch, relegating him to a pitcher with two offerings. When he cannot throw his off speed pitches for strikes, batters lay off and sit on his fastball. When his fastball is well placed, they cannot square it up, even if batters know it's coming. When he hasn't, they barrel it up, and his velocity helps their cause. And, he's not pitching inside effectively or often enough, eliminating half of the plate, allowing arms extended on swings. Essentially, he's much like the pitcher we saw prior to last year. Bring in Pedro, fix his change up and approach. The talent is there, he just needs a reboot. is he tipping pitches? Right now, it's a moot point. He's only offering two, and the slider he cannot command for strikes. Tough to be perfect on a fastball each time it's in the strikezone and MLB hitters sitting on it. And, hanging sliders travel a long way, looking like bad bad fastballs. There is one mystery here. Coaches, managers, and just about every player in MLB know that a starting pitcher needs three pitches. I'm sure Pedro knows that, and he was the one credited with creating the better version of Severino we've seen. How does a pitcher get away with abandoning a pitch that was a part of his vast improvement? If he's going to get hammered without using the pitch, it would seem to me that he'd be better of continuing to utilize the weapon in games with the hope of being able to depend on it again at some time in the near future. He's getting hit either way it seems to me... His entire demeanor has changed on the mound. For a while he was looking like a young bull in the pasture. He was confident and aggressive. Now, he appears timid, like he knows he's going to make a mistake...I would venture that he may even be taking a bit more time between pitches once he gets runners on. It's like he's surrendering... See Phil "I just can't throw a change up" Hughes and Joba "I'd rather be drinking" Chamberlain and AJ "I like the National League" Burnett. |
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Post by inger on Aug 14, 2018 18:50:54 GMT -5
As per the usual, very astute observation on your part...
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 15, 2018 15:42:53 GMT -5
Kontos was DFA'd to make room for Cessa. I might have pulled the plug on Cole instead.
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Post by inger on Aug 15, 2018 17:13:35 GMT -5
Kontos was DFA'd to make room for Cessa. I might have pulled the plug on Cole instead. Can’t. Boone is trying to get him going... |
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Post by domeplease on Aug 17, 2018 12:23:40 GMT -5
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Post by sierchio on Aug 17, 2018 14:01:17 GMT -5
Play Machado at 3rd... Andujar at 1B / DH ?
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Post by bearman on Aug 17, 2018 14:58:13 GMT -5
What would folks thank if we tried to trade for Joe Maurer? He is obviously way past his prime but he would be a better option at first base than we have now. He is hitting .272 with an OBP of .352 although he is not much of a home run threat. He also doesn't strike out very much. The challenge might be he couldn't DH as long as Stanton can't play in the field. He is in the last year of his contract and would have veto rights. I would think we would have to give up very little for him. It wouldn't be giving up on Bird but would help this year. Just a thought.
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Post by rizzuto on Aug 17, 2018 16:51:13 GMT -5
Trading Mauer from the Twins would be like trading Mattingly from the Yankees. Moreso, Mauer was born, raised, and lives in Minnesota. He's an icon to the organization. They're not trading him. He'll retire a Twin.
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Post by uehara1 on Aug 17, 2018 17:05:01 GMT -5
Play Machado at 3rd... Andujar at 1B / DH ? Maybe package Andujar in a trade for a higher end SP- or a 1B? |
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Post by utahyank on Aug 17, 2018 18:01:40 GMT -5
Play Machado at 3rd... Andujar at 1B / DH ? Maybe package Andujar in a trade for a higher end SP- or a 1B? I hope the Yankees use FA to acquire one or two high end pitchers.....it is a gift to teams like the Yankees to be able to simply sign from Fa rather than provide the necessary talent in a trade.... I am ready to give up on Bird....whether it's injuries, or whether he falls a little short at the ML level, the Yankees need to look, beyond him....Andujar surely could play 1B at a ML level...I hate that we would be so RH heavy on offense....could we get someone like Votto in a trade using Andujar? Looking at 2019, the staff needs to add an ace #1, and another #2 starter....it is foolish to think as some may, that we could ever bludgeon our way to a title... |
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 17, 2018 18:32:53 GMT -5
Play Machado at 3rd... Andujar at 1B / DH ? Maybe package Andujar in a trade for a higher end SP- or a 1B? This kid is quickly becoming one of the team's best hitters and he's dirt cheap, the kind of player you keep. |
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