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Post by domeplease on Oct 26, 2022 16:46:12 GMT -5
Winning a WS is not a big deal to Hal. As long as the team contends every year and continues to put money in his pockets, he's happy. Boone is one of the worst strategic game-day managers in baseball, just like Hal is one of the worst owners in game. Agreed!!! |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 26, 2022 19:20:36 GMT -5
Using Google Translate: For Mariano Rivera, Aaron Boone should not continue with the New York YankeesIn his first five years as a major league manager, Aaron Boone has an enviable won-lost percentage (.603). But if it were up to New York Yankees historic Panamanian pitcher Mariano Rivera, Boone would no longer be a pilot in the Bronx. "If Boone should continue, oh, if I'm the owner, I wouldn't be," Rivera told reporters in his country on Tuesday, during his participation in the Sports Forum of the Panamanian Association of Business Executives. The statements by Rivera, who is unanimously considered the best relief pitcher of all time, came two days after the Yankees were swept by the Houston Astros in the American League Championship Series, to extend his absence to 13 years. of the World Series. Boone, who has guided the Yankees to the postseason in each of his first five seasons as manager, is under contract through the 2024 season. On Tuesday, multiple media reports indicated that New York plans to retain Boone and general manager Brian Cashman. But Rivera, who won five rings with the Yankees before becoming the first player to be unanimously elected to the Cooperstown Hall of Fame, isn't impressed after the proud striped Bronx were eliminated by the Astros for the third time. occasion in the last six seasons. "He has two years left on his contract," said Rivera, who was a member of New York's World Series-winning teams in 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2009. "Sometimes you put [all the responsibility] on the managers, but also the players have to do the work. Sometimes, when things don't go the way you want them to go, all the blame is on the manager. And someone has They have to pay the guilt and they are not going to fire the players. It is always the manager who is fired, "he added. "So you try to move a chip to see if things work out," Rivera said.
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Post by acuraman on Oct 26, 2022 21:36:53 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Oct 26, 2022 22:14:55 GMT -5
Truth be known, if I was Boone I might be asked to be released from the contract. It must be frustrating for him as well… |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 27, 2022 8:51:23 GMT -5
Truth be known, if I was Boone I might be asked to be released from the contract. It must be frustrating for him as well… It would be tough to turn down all that cash, plus it's a huge hit to the ego to just up and quit. |
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Post by acuraman on Oct 27, 2022 19:54:24 GMT -5
Rivera would keep Boone, says earlier remarks out of context “I said when a team like this, the New York Yankees, is expected to win, the season that they had, and they don’t make it to the end, always the manager is the one that always ends up paying,” Rivera said during a telephone interview with the AP. “Although the manager doesn’t hit, the manager doesn’t pitch, the manager doesn’t run, the manager doesn’t do nothing but manage and make sure everybody’s ready to play, unfortunately they never fire the whole team, they always fire the manager," he said. "I was giving a generic estimation. And obviously they took it out of context.” Rivera said he does not advocate for a manager switch: “I don't have to change. Who I am to say?" www.yahoo.com/news/rivera-keep-boone-says-earlier-145718983.html |
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Post by inger on Oct 27, 2022 21:38:23 GMT -5
Rivera would keep Boone, says earlier remarks out of context “I said when a team like this, the New York Yankees, is expected to win, the season that they had, and they don’t make it to the end, always the manager is the one that always ends up paying,” Rivera said during a telephone interview with the AP. “Although the manager doesn’t hit, the manager doesn’t pitch, the manager doesn’t run, the manager doesn’t do nothing but manage and make sure everybody’s ready to play, unfortunately they never fire the whole team, they always fire the manager," he said. "I was giving a generic estimation. And obviously they took it out of context.” Rivera said he does not advocate for a manager switch: “I don't have to change. Who I am to say?" www.yahoo.com/news/rivera-keep-boone-says-earlier-145718983.htmlI’m not at all this was retracted. The previous remarks seemed very un-like Mariano’s placid and political personality… |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 27, 2022 23:23:49 GMT -5
Rivera would keep Boone, says earlier remarks out of context “I said when a team like this, the New York Yankees, is expected to win, the season that they had, and they don’t make it to the end, always the manager is the one that always ends up paying,” Rivera said during a telephone interview with the AP. “Although the manager doesn’t hit, the manager doesn’t pitch, the manager doesn’t run, the manager doesn’t do nothing but manage and make sure everybody’s ready to play, unfortunately they never fire the whole team, they always fire the manager," he said. "I was giving a generic estimation. And obviously they took it out of context.” Rivera said he does not advocate for a manager switch: “I don't have to change. Who I am to say?" www.yahoo.com/news/rivera-keep-boone-says-earlier-145718983.htmlI’m not at all this was retracted. The previous remarks seemed very un-like Mariano’s placid and political personality… Same here. I expected a retraction. |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 28, 2022 16:51:19 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Oct 28, 2022 22:39:46 GMT -5
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Post by domeplease on Oct 30, 2022 12:46:06 GMT -5
The saying may be “victory has a thousand fathers, defeat is an orphan”, but there have been several potential parents for the blame of the Yankees’ 2022 season.
Some people blame Aaron Boone, some Hal Steinbrenner, some the players themselves. All parties share some of the responsibility for a disappointing season, but I think that the primary patriarch of the outcome of this club is the guy who has near-free-reign to run it, Brian Cashman.
Yes, Hal Steinbrenner is the managing partner of the team of investors that actually owns Yankee Global Experiences LLC. This is still Brian Cashman’s team. After 25 years at the head of baseball operations, he has molded the organization into his own image. For the most part, this has worked out really well — the Yankees haven’t posted a losing record in my lifetime, they are consistently in the battle for the AL East title, and even when they’re bad, like in 2013 or 2014, they’re not bad the way that the Pirates or the Rockies are.
Yet this is the first year that I’ve been legitimately concerned at the decisions being made by the organization, and those decisions are made by Brian Cashman. The organizational pivot towards prioritizing defense didn’t come from Aaron Boone — Cashman was the one to take on $50 million in Josh Donaldson for those sweet, sweet web gems that Isiah Kiner-Falefa and Ben Rortvedt provided.
The trade for Frankie Montas, the big splash at the August deadline, was a complete nothingburger — and if he doesn’t have a strong 2023, maybe one of the all-time bad trades. Andrew Benintendi worked well on paper, but only had a short run of effectiveness sandwiched around being bad and being hurt. Some of the moves Cashman made worked! Lou Trivino was a nice pickup, and obviously Jose Trevino worked out extremely well — even if it only came after the Rortvedt trade and injury.
I think my criticism of Cashman is less about individual moves though, and more about policy, philosophy, direction. I don’t know who sets the “playoffs are a crapshoot” “spend but spread” ideology of the organization — I really don’t think Hal Steinbrenner is that involved in anything on the baseball side aside from setting the topline budget at the start of the year. I think that Hal is a businessman, not a baseball man; give him the credit for the partnership with Amazon and reacquisition of YES, not the 99 wins the team put up this season.
Brian Cashman is the baseball man, and it’s him who I’m going to primarily blame for the roster construction. I’ve never cared for the argument that he’s constrained by payroll decisions: first of all, I really do think that Cashman, who is incredibly self-confident, doesn’t mind the constraints. I think that he privately bristles at the idea that the Yankees buy their championships or that his job is easier than others because of his financial reach. I think he’s very happy to operate under imposed payroll: if he wasn’t, he would have left by now.
Therefore, when Aaron Boone says things like the league has “closed the gap” on the Yankees, and you’re the guy in charge of the roster, and the roster reflects that said gap is still closed — you were dumped by the same team for the fourth time in eight years — I think you shoulder the blame, and I think this is the first year that I’ve questioned whether or not Cashman is the right guy to lead the baseball side of the organization.
Whether Aaron Judge comes back or not, he’s not going to have an 11 win season. Even if he’s really good next year, seven or eight wins, do you trust the roster as it stands to be better than 99 wins? Do you trust that the Yankees will make significant moves, aside from calling up Anthony Volpe at some point in 2023, to try and re-widen the gap that’s closed?
I don’t know who the replacement would be. Anyone from Cashman’s team, after 25 years of near-total control over baseball ops, would be an extension of Cashman’s beliefs and approach. There are folks who I’d like to see in the Yankees front office — Jason Paré from Atlanta and Sarah Gelles from the Astros immediately come to mind — but I don’t think the Yankees are willing to undergo a radical transformation of the brain trust.
Steinbrenner’s already signaled that the team is going to work out a new contract for Cashman, and the symbiotic relationship between the two continues. Hal is happy with this arrangement, and Cashman is, too. I don’t trust the team to make a serious change of direction or philosophy, and I don’t think Cashman sees the need for one. I wonder what it would take for him to get there.
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 30, 2022 13:04:34 GMT -5
What will it take? Thirteen years without a World Series appearance. Yet, with a monstrous payroll. Is Cashman safe for seven more years? Seventeen? That would be thirty years without an appearance in the Fall Classic. Where is the line that Cashman cannot cross?
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Post by inger on Oct 30, 2022 13:38:06 GMT -5
What will it take? Thirteen years without a World Series appearance. Yet, with a monstrous payroll. Is Cashman safe for seven more years? Seventeen? That would be thirty years without an appearance in the Fall Classic. Where is the line that Cashman cannot cross? The line is one of obedience. He may not disobey the great Hal Steinbrenner. And it would be difficult to do so, since Hal is determining the budget. This year the Yanks were thrown out of sync when they decided Joey Gallo was going to solve the problem of not having enough left handed power. When he didn’t they had no back up plan. They did eventually add more left handed hitting, big switch-hitter Oswald Cabrera and the suddenly non-powered bay of Anthony Benintendi were not the ultimate answers, either. As long as Cashman has to say “Mother May I?” to Hal before each move, I can’t lay this all on him. One thing about the dumpster diving: have you noticed that these “finds” usually perform at a higher level at first? But then it turns out that they were dumpster fodder to start with and they drop to their former levels. It’s a bit strange… |
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Post by domeplease on Oct 30, 2022 14:09:20 GMT -5
As long as Cash is there = NO WS for the Yankees.
I like Anthony Benintend and hoping we re-sign him.
AND I love big switch-hitter Oswald Cabrera who show us he is capable of playing like SIX positions and his BA/RBI totals will only improve.
AND I believe Judge will leave.
If I was in his shoes = Seeing the last 13-years of Cash and NO WS and Cash is still there combined with Boone (???) = Judge might think NO immediate WS in the near future for the Yankees and he might go to a team for Huge MEGA $$$ and a better shot at the WS.
Not going to the WS for a quality player of Judge's status is like dating a girl you love for 7-years and NEVER GETTING SEX!!! I rest my case!!!
SO, Dump CASH/BOONE do a quick rebuild and lets go to the WS (have sex) in the near future.
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Post by inger on Oct 30, 2022 14:17:48 GMT -5
As long as Cash is there = NO WS for the Yankees.
I like Anthony Benintend and hoping we re-sign him.
AND I love big switch-hitter Oswald Cabrera who show us he is capable of playing like SIX positions and his BA/RBI totals will only improve.
AND I believe Judge will leave.
If I was in his shoes = Seeing the last 13-years of Cash and NO WS and Cash is still there combined with Boone (???) = Judge might think NO immediate WS in the near future for the Yankees and he might go to a team for Huge MEGA $$$ and a better shot at the WS.
Not going to the WS for a quality player of Judge's status is like dating a girl you love for 7-years and NEVER GETTING SEX!!! I rest my case!!!
SO, Dump CASH/BOONE do a quick rebuild and lets go to the WS (have sex) in the near future.
So. You’re saying screw the World Series, right?…🤓 |
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