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Post by kaybli on Oct 23, 2022 23:11:44 GMT -5
Any chance he gets fired now?
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 23, 2022 23:12:50 GMT -5
No
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Post by kaybli on Oct 23, 2022 23:18:56 GMT -5
There were multiple instances of communication issues in the playoffs and the yes network guys were going off on him so maybe there’s a chance he’s canned.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Oct 23, 2022 23:31:41 GMT -5
There were multiple instances of communication issues in the playoffs and the yes network guys were going off on him so maybe there’s a chance he’s canned. Reason I say no is he just signed a new deal and theyll spin it as he went two rounds farther than last year.
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 24, 2022 8:18:40 GMT -5
Boone received his new contract last year, so I don't see Hal eating the rest of the deal, it's not his style.
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Post by desousa on Oct 24, 2022 8:32:11 GMT -5
No, because that would take Cashman and Hal admitting it was mistake and they don't care what the fans or media think. Also, they love a yes man in that position and no one fits that description better than Boone. I do think he'll be in trouble midseason if the team starts out poorly next season, which is a strong possibility looking at the current roster construction and Judge doesn't resign.
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Post by Rockaway Park on Oct 24, 2022 10:46:43 GMT -5
Dusty outcoached him ... which makes sense. Boone will be a great manager ... in 10 years.
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Post by desousa on Oct 24, 2022 11:05:58 GMT -5
One more thing about Boone this season, some of the players questioned his moves to the press. I don't believe that had happened before. It might take losing the clubhouse to get fired.
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 24, 2022 14:26:26 GMT -5
Boone is Cashman's guy. I thought Boone cost the Yankees seven to ten games last season, and I believe the same can be said of this season, if not more. His ping pong playing with shortstop thought out the ALCS was idiotic. Expecting something from Carpenter was an obvious mistake to me from the beginning. I would have even preferred Marwin Gonzalez to Carpenter. At the end of the season, the hottest hitter the Yankees had was Oswald Peraza, as well as the best defensive shortstop on the team. That he started one game was inexcusable. Playing Stanton in left field in Yankee Stadium than the much smaller right field was head-scratching, particularly that Stanton was nearly exclusively a right-fielder his entire career when healthy.
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 24, 2022 14:46:46 GMT -5
One more thing about Boone this season, some of the players questioned his moves to the press. I don't believe that had happened before. It might take losing the clubhouse to get fired. I'm all in favor of dumping Boone, but honestly I don't think he is the biggest problem. Plus I think most other managers in MLB are pretty much like him. It's what management wants. Dave Roberts manages the Dodgers in much the same way Boone manages the Yankees, except there is more talent there to override his cautious, front office data application approach. Nice guy, worries about players feeling out of sorts, still with that deep roster and always five or six ace starting pitchers on call he has only managed one ring, and that in the bizarro 2020 season. Buck was given the keys to a Lamborghini and still drove it into the ditch. Rob Thompson definitely had the Phillies overachieving, but it was more a team reaction of relief after ditching Joe Girardi, because he makes the same inexplicable moves with his starters and bullpen as Boone. He just had enough boppers throughout the lineup to overcome it, and even at that they only won 87 games. Lots of pixie dust involved. It always comes back to ownership and the front office. But like all of you, I am tired of Boone's alibis and failure to deliver. Kick Cashman upstairs and put Boone back in the broadcast booth, perhaps replacing Beltran.
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Post by domeplease on Oct 24, 2022 14:50:22 GMT -5
BYE BYE BOONE!!!
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 24, 2022 14:56:17 GMT -5
Dusty outcoached him ... which makes sense. Boone will be a great manager ... in 10 years. I am a fan of Dusty and look forward to his induction in Cooperstown. But it isn't often you can say he outcoached anybody. There is enough talent in Houston to make him almost foolproof. In 25 years of managing, mostly with very good teams, before he came to Houston he had one pennant and no rings in 22 seasons. Now he has two consecutive pennants with the Astros, and the clearest path he will ever have to a championship. I also do not think Mattingly is the answer. I'd love to see him back in pinstripes, but the Dodgers under-achieved on his watch. The Marlins may have modestly over-achieved, but the bar there is so low I'm not sure it tells us much.
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 24, 2022 15:05:09 GMT -5
From when the Yankees became the Yankees -- signing Babe Ruth -- the pre-Ruth teams were prototypes, the eohippus to the horse -- no manager who managed at least three full seasons has gone five years from when he started without delivering a pennant. Not ever. To wit:
Miller Huggins -- first pennant in his fourth year (and the first two were pre-Ruth.) Joe McCarthy -- first pennant in his second year. Bucky Harris -- first pennant in first year. Casey Stengel -- first pennant in first year. Ralph Houk -- first pennant in first year. Billy Martin -- first pennant in his first full year. Bob Lemon -- first pennant in his second semi-full year (lots of partial seasons with The Boss on his rampage.) Joe Torre -- first pennant in his first year. Joe Girardi -- first pennant in his second year.
Buck Showalter had four years with no pennant and was fired. So Boone stands alone.
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 24, 2022 15:12:14 GMT -5
Dusty outcoached him ... which makes sense. Boone will be a great manager ... in 10 years. I am a fan of Dusty and look forward to his induction in Cooperstown. But it isn't often you can say he outcoached anybody. There is enough talent in Houston to make him almost foolproof. In 25 years of managing, mostly with very good teams, before he came to Houston he had one pennant and no rings in 22 seasons. Now he has two consecutive pennants with the Astros, and the clearest path he will ever have to a championship. I also do not think Mattingly is the answer. I'd love to see him back in pinstripes, but the Dodgers under-achieved on his watch. The Marlins may have modestly over-achieved, but the bar there is so low I'm not sure it tells us much. I kind of give Mattingly a break on his first foray as manager in LA. Remember, Joe Torre was signed to a NY headline of "Clueless Joe," representative of his previous managerial stints. Also, if anyone could bring back the "Yankee way," it would have to be Donnie Baseball. But, you are likely correct, the front office wants an analytical puppet. As long as Cashman is in charge, this is the probably the type of season we can expect, as that appears to be a success under this management.
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 24, 2022 15:32:06 GMT -5
I am a fan of Dusty and look forward to his induction in Cooperstown. But it isn't often you can say he outcoached anybody. There is enough talent in Houston to make him almost foolproof. In 25 years of managing, mostly with very good teams, before he came to Houston he had one pennant and no rings in 22 seasons. Now he has two consecutive pennants with the Astros, and the clearest path he will ever have to a championship. I also do not think Mattingly is the answer. I'd love to see him back in pinstripes, but the Dodgers under-achieved on his watch. The Marlins may have modestly over-achieved, but the bar there is so low I'm not sure it tells us much. I kind of give Mattingly a break on his first foray as manager in LA. Remember, Joe Torre was signed to a NY headline of "Clueless Joe," representative of his previous managerial stints. Also, if anyone could bring back the "Yankee way," it would have to be Donnie Baseball. But, you are likely correct, the front office wants an analytical puppet. As long as Cashman is in charge, this is the probably the type of season we can expect, as that appears to be a success under this management. Fair enough Rizz. Just for what he has meant to the Yankees I would be hard-pressed to complain about Mattingly being at the helm, although my expectations would be tempered. I do not know how Cashman keeps his job. Since the Yankees last got to the World Series, fifteen other teams have been there. Many of them multiple times. Yes, the Yankees are at the very top of the lowest 50 percentile -- woo hoo -- but all of what I would consider to be the marquee historical franchises with national followings -- Dodgers, Red Sox, Cardinals, Cubs, possibly Giants and Mets and I guess by now the Braves and Astros -- have been at least once. You can throw in the Tigers and Royals and Phillies and former Indians for good measure, plus the Rays, Rangers and Nationals -- all have been to the Series since the Yankees were last there.
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