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Post by acuraman on Nov 29, 2022 19:12:55 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Nov 29, 2022 19:26:49 GMT -5
Just end the drama early so any teams with the potential to make an offer can move on and build a team for 2023… |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Nov 30, 2022 2:21:09 GMT -5
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Post by anthonyd46 on Nov 30, 2022 2:39:08 GMT -5
The fact we don't even have any leak of if the Giants actually even made an offer and it's been a week is weird. Curry and Passan both don't seem bothered by the Giants interest and both have said they still see it pointing to the Yankees. Not really hearing anything about other teams.
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Post by kaybli on Nov 30, 2022 2:53:30 GMT -5
The fact we don't even have any leak of if the Giants actually even made an offer and it's been a week is weird. Curry and Passan both don't seem bothered by the Giants interest and both have said they still see it pointing to the Yankees. Not really hearing anything about other teams. Good news I think. I'm cautiously optimistic. |
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 30, 2022 8:33:26 GMT -5
The fact we don't even have any leak of if the Giants actually even made an offer and it's been a week is weird. Curry and Passan both don't seem bothered by the Giants interest and both have said they still see it pointing to the Yankees. Not really hearing anything about other teams. Good news I think. I'm cautiously optimistic. I’m optimistically cautious. The Reece’s Cup dilemma. |
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Post by acuraman on Nov 30, 2022 11:34:04 GMT -5
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Post by acuraman on Nov 30, 2022 11:38:14 GMT -5
That contract will cripple the Yankees spending on FA's in the coming years and your still not a WS contender if he signs.
Judge will be an absolute disaster the last 4 years of this contract. Hopefully the Giants offer him 9 years and save the Yankees.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Nov 30, 2022 11:40:48 GMT -5
Here's the excerpt from the ESPN + article: Nobody will elicit more attention than Judge, the 30-year-old outfielder whose 62 home runs this season earned him a near-unanimous American League MVP award. Judge's free agency, sources involved said, is primed to end in a record-setting deal at the meetings, exceeding the previous high average annual value for a position player of $35.5 million for Mike Trout. The New York Yankees, whose chief desire this offseason is to retain Judge, have an offer on the table in the neighborhood of eight years and $300 million and could increase it, depending on how far the San Francisco Giants -- the other top suitor -- are willing to push the market. Across the industry, the expectation is that Judge re-signs, but it's worth remembering: The last time the highest-paid free agent remained with his current team was Yoenis Cespedes with the Mets in 2016. And before that, it was Matt Holliday in 2009. The Yankees hope that Judge is the exception. In addition to money and familiarity, they have the team captaincy to offer. Granted, familiarity did little for Corey Seager, George Springer, Gerrit Cole, Bryce Harper, Eric Hosmer, David Price, Max Scherzer, Robinson Cano, Zack Greinke, Albert Pujols and Carl Crawford, the non-Cespedes and Holliday predecessors atop the free agency food chain. Thus, the tension heading to San Diego: Just how wedded to the Yankees is Judge, and how wedded to Judge are the Yankees? |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Nov 30, 2022 11:48:43 GMT -5
That contract will cripple the Yankees spending on FA's in the coming years and your still not a WS contender if he signs. Judge will be an absolute disaster the last 4 years of this contract. Hopefully the Giants offer him 9 years and save the Yankees. I get what you are saying Acrua, but I think the fan base is on such thin ice with this team that it would be a public nightmare for the team if they don't bring him back. They obviously need more than him, but he is so integral to this teams success right now that I'm not even sure if this is a .500 team without him there's that many holes. They need to fix those holes even if you bring him back, but I just think if he doesn't come back this team just goes backwards and off a season of an ALCS appearance I just don't think that's good for anyone to go back into the mediocre state of 2013-2016 which is what this team would be without Judge on it. |
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Post by acuraman on Nov 30, 2022 12:15:21 GMT -5
That contract will cripple the Yankees spending on FA's in the coming years and your still not a WS contender if he signs. Judge will be an absolute disaster the last 4 years of this contract. Hopefully the Giants offer him 9 years and save the Yankees. I get what you are saying Acrua, but I think the fan base is on such thin ice with this team that it would be a public nightmare for the team if they don't bring him back. They obviously need more than him, but he is so integral to this teams success right now that I'm not even sure if this is a .500 team without him there's that many holes. They need to fix those holes even if you bring him back, but I just think if he doesn't come back this team just goes backwards and off a season of an ALCS appearance I just don't think that's good for anyone to go back into the mediocre state of 2013-2016 which is what this team would be without Judge on it. Totally agree, but it sucks. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Nov 30, 2022 12:41:23 GMT -5
I get what you are saying Acrua, but I think the fan base is on such thin ice with this team that it would be a public nightmare for the team if they don't bring him back. They obviously need more than him, but he is so integral to this teams success right now that I'm not even sure if this is a .500 team without him there's that many holes. They need to fix those holes even if you bring him back, but I just think if he doesn't come back this team just goes backwards and off a season of an ALCS appearance I just don't think that's good for anyone to go back into the mediocre state of 2013-2016 which is what this team would be without Judge on it. Totally agree, but it sucks. Yea I dunno where it went towards this direction, but they literally put themselves in a situation where Aaron Judge literally is a 10-15 win difference in this teams success all by himself. No player should have that kind of effect on the team, but he does and I think this team just goes back in progress dramatically if they don't get him back. Rizzo and Stanton are the only players you can really count on and I can't even emphasize "count" too much, because both have had nagging injuries that has kept them out of periods of games and that isn't going to get better. Both will help the production of this team, but Judge whatever he has done with his condition has seemed to fix whatever it was health wise and has played more games the last two seasons, because of it. Rizzo and Stanton don't seem to have that and we can almost pencil at this point they will miss 20-30 games due to nagging injuries. Another big problem here is DJLM. He was playing way above his career levels the first couple years in his Yankee contract to where he was a feared hitter and defender and gave the Yankees another player they could count on in the lineup. The last two years these nagging injuries have really held him back and the Yankees have really missed that production, because it shortens the lineup if he isn't going to play or not play on that level. The healthy one through all this has been Gleyber Torres, but he is so inconsistent you just never know what you will get from him and he is not someone this team needs to rely on with his mental status sometimes. So thats the thing here without Judge this team loses hits identity and you are left with a core of above average, but aging players then hoping the kids can be productive enough to get this team into the playoffs. I'm not really sure there is a "superstar" out there close to Judge that suffices as a replacement either to make this team deep enough to even sniff the ALCS. This is team is second best in the AL by a wide margin with Judge. Without subtract like 15 wins and it brings you back to 2013-2016 |
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Post by domeplease on Nov 30, 2022 17:27:48 GMT -5
They should have gone 8-years for $350M or $43M a season.
Someone else might make such an offer???!!!
I think $300M 8-year at $37m IS A BIT LIGHT.
With that said, I would have gone only: 6-years (MAX) for $280M or $46.66M a year with one additional mutual option year.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Nov 30, 2022 19:45:07 GMT -5
They should have gone 8-years for $350M or $43M a season.
Someone else might make such an offer???!!!
I think $300M 8-year at $37m IS A BIT LIGHT.
With that said, I would have gone only: 6-years (MAX) for $280M or $46.66M a year with one additional mutual option year.
Passan made the point the giants have never signed someone over 200 mil. So Yankees prob figured throw the three see how serious the giants are etc Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by acuraman on Nov 30, 2022 20:22:32 GMT -5
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