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Post by inger on Mar 18, 2024 22:35:35 GMT -5
Al Lopez. He never had a full losing season and was the only American league manager to break through the Yankee dynasty of the 1950s and win the American League Pennant, and did so with two different teams, the White Sox and the Indians…
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Post by noetsi on Mar 19, 2024 10:53:18 GMT -5
Has anyone ever approached Cobb's record of beating up fans in a game, season, or career?
I am guessing not.
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Post by kaybli on Mar 19, 2024 10:56:52 GMT -5
Has anyone ever approached Cobb's record of beating up fans in a game, season, or career? I am guessing not. Great to see ya noetsi! Have you noticed all our new posters? |
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Post by inger on Mar 19, 2024 10:59:21 GMT -5
Has anyone ever approached Cobb's record of beating up fans in a game, season, or career? I am guessing not. Welcome home, Russ! … |
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Post by inger on Mar 19, 2024 11:19:48 GMT -5
.0968. That is the lowest WHIP ever for a starting pitcher and belongs to Addie Joss.
A remarkable pitcher, Joss famously threw the most economical perfect game in history at 74 pitches. The sidebar of that game is that he was facing Ed Walsh of the White Sox, who entered the game with a 39-14 record and had to wait until his next start to get his 40th win.
The only Addie and the only Joss ever to play in MLB even now, some 120 years after he played. Joss worked as a sports writer in Cleveland after he retired until his unfortunate death at 31 years and 2 days.
His 1.89 career ERA is a 143+. Imagine what that would be today. Deadball baseball… ⚾️
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Post by Max on Mar 19, 2024 11:30:57 GMT -5
Wasn't that the ball he lost in the white shirts? At least that was the story at the time. No way the Yanks were winning that Series. They were just overmatched by Koufax and Drysdale. It was so frustrating to watch -- they were defending champs at the time, having defeated an outstanding Giants team the year before. Yep...and yes, no way they would win regardless, but he (Pepi) was made the scapegoat. I remember the Daily News sports cartoonist Bill Gallo had a hero/goat award...pretty sure it was Pepitone for that game. Bill Gallo! As far back as I can remember, I always looked forward to seeing Bill Gallo's cartoon of the day. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 19, 2024 11:56:24 GMT -5
Al Lopez. He never had a full losing season and was the only American league manager to break through the Yankee dynasty of the 1950s and win the American League Pennant, and did so with two different teams, the White Sox and the Indians… Al Lopez was great. Funny, low-key and smart. One of the all-time great managers. He seemed like he would be good to play for. Until Bob Boone passed him, he held the record for most games at catcher. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 19, 2024 11:59:33 GMT -5
Has anyone ever approached Cobb's record of beating up fans in a game, season, or career? I am guessing not. Well like the swallows returning to Capistrano -- hey there Noetsi. Hope you enjoyed your annual hibernation. Jellystone Park has changed a bit since you last joined us. I dunno, but I think Billy Martin gave the Georgia Peach a run for his money. He sure nailed that marshmallow salesman in Minneapolis. |
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Post by inger on Mar 19, 2024 12:47:29 GMT -5
Has anyone ever approached Cobb's record of beating up fans in a game, season, or career? I am guessing not. Surprisingly, I don’t recall an uptick during the steroid age… |
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Post by inger on Mar 19, 2024 21:29:11 GMT -5
Another remarkable deadball pitcher was Rube Waddell.
Waddell was the first pitcher ever to lead his league in K’s for six consecutive seasons. Waddell led the AL in K in 1902, pitching for PHA, w/210. He then led the majors for the next five straight years w/302, 349, 287, 196, 232.
Another first for him was to be the first ever to throw an immaculate inning. On 01-Jul-902 in the 3rd inning, Waddell fanned Billy Gilbert, Harry Howell & Jim Cronin of the Baltimore Orioles.
Waddell’s record of 349 K in 1904 was the major league record until broken by Sandy Koufax’ 382 in 1965. It wasn’t until Ryan’s eye-popping 383 in 1973 that Waddell’s American League record fell.
Waddell’s career ERA of 2.16 was 135 ERA+…
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Post by inger on Mar 20, 2024 9:34:49 GMT -5
Smoky Joe Wood was the ace of the Red Sox staff when they won the 1912 World Series. He went 3-1 in that 9 game series.
Wood had a pitching record of 34-5 in 1912. No BOS pitcher has ever won more in 1 season. Cy Young is 2nd (33), 3rd (32), 4th (28) & 5th (26) on that list. BOS won the WS in 1912, 1915, 1916 & 1918. It’s quite amazing what a strong team they had before they sold off much of the team, including one George Herman Ruth to the Yankees.
Smoky’s son, simply known as Joe Wood had a three game MLB career, and never got in the win column. He was 0-1, 6.52 for the ‘44 Red Sox.
I won’t get into Wood’s career as a hitter here, other than to say it was a fine one.
Career ERA 2.03, 146+…
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Post by inger on Mar 20, 2024 9:42:55 GMT -5
DUTCH LEONARD Raised in Fresno, California, Leonard returned there after his playing days & ran a profitable enterprise for many years. Fellow Fresno HS alum Tom Seaver was also a successful vintner. His humane approach to previously interned Japanese American during and after WWII is a story worth reading, see the link below. Leonard collected vinyl records too, amassing as many as 150,000 at his home in Fresno. For his baseball records, it's hard to beat his all-time best ERA in 1914 of 0.96 Career ERA 2.76/ 115+. Leonard never won more than 19 games and much of his career was ordinary, especially at the end. discovernikkei.org/en/journal/2023/3/6/dutch-leonard/ |
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Post by inger on Mar 21, 2024 7:19:09 GMT -5
HARRY KRAUSE
Had an unmatched start to his major league career, when, in the first ten starts of at least seven innings, he surrendered two runs or fewer
Krause’s 1909 for PHA feat has not been matched since then, but CIN’s Johnny Cueto in 2014 started the year with 9 such starts , putting Krause’s name prominent in the news for the first time in a century.
Krause won a total of 249 games in the PCL over 16 seasons.
Strange to find Krause among all this great deadball hurlers. Why is he here? He’s one of the hurlers in the era to finish a season with and ERA title with an ERA under 1.50…
His big season came at age 20, but he quickly faded away into the PCL…
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Post by inger on Mar 21, 2024 9:52:09 GMT -5
AL Dead Ball ERA season leaders under 1.50
Waddell.......... 1905............ 1.48.............. PHA............... 58.4
Joss............... 1908............ 1.16.............. CLE............... 45.3
Krause........... 1909............ 1.39.............. PHA................. 8.7
Walsh............. 1910............ 1.27.............. CHW............... 65.9
Johnson........ 1912............ 1.39.............. WSH............. 165.1
Johnson........ 1913............ 1.14.............. WSH............. 165.1
Leonard......... 1914............ 0.96.............. BOS............... 37.0
Wood............. 1915............ 1.49.............. BOS............... 40.1
Johnson........ 1918............ 1.27.............. WSH............. 165.1
Johnson........ 1919............ 1.49.............. WSH............. 165.1
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Post by inger on Mar 21, 2024 9:57:06 GMT -5
1941 St. Louis Cardinals.
Their starting line-up was:
C Gus Mancuso MVP-17
1B Johnny Mize AS, MVP-9
2B Frank Crespi MVP-18
SS Marty Marion MVP-24
3B Jimmy Brown MVP-4
OF Enos Slaughter AS, MVP-19
OF Johnny Hopp MVP-8
OF Terry Moore AS, MVP-12
PH - Estel Crabtree, MVP-32
SP Lon Warneke AS, MVP-27
SP Ernie White MVP-6
SP Mort Cooper MVP-24
No other team has had 12 players receiving MVP votes, all the starting position players, plus the main pinch-hitter/backup outfield, plus three starting pitchers…
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