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Post by inger on Jun 10, 2024 18:56:24 GMT -5
Sorry I don’t have the date: (Pipps will know it, and probably interviewed Horton over a beer that night)…
Al Kaline and centerfielder Jim Northrup both converged on a line drive and collided.
Kaline lay flat on the warning track motionless. Immediately he began to suffocate, his jaw locked and his tongue obstructed his breathing.
Racing over from left field….Willie Horton….pried open Kaline’s clenched jaw, pulled his tongue out of his throat.
Kaline opened his eyes not realizing what happened & rushed to a local hospital.
Willie Horton received an award from the Michigan Heart Association who told Willie that he saved Al Kaline’s life...
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 10, 2024 19:29:45 GMT -5
Sorry I don’t have the date: (Pipps will know it, and probably interviewed Horton over a beer that night)… Al Kaline and centerfielder Jim Northrup both converged on a line drive and collided. Kaline lay flat on the warning track motionless. Immediately he began to suffocate, his jaw locked and his tongue obstructed his breathing. Racing over from left field….Willie Horton….pried open Kaline’s clenched jaw, pulled his tongue out of his throat. Kaline opened his eyes not realizing what happened & rushed to a local hospital. Willie Horton received an award from the Michigan Heart Association who told Willie that he saved Al Kaline’s life... Sorry Inger, I never met Willie Horton. But my youngest brother, a lifelong Tigers fan for some reason, actually did and said he was a great guy. I did meet Al Kaline when I went to a book signing at the Babe Ruth home in Baltimore along with my bro. About that play -- it was a bases-loaded hit off the bat of Brewers SS Roberto Pena. Horton had been a Golden Gloves boxer and had training in what to do in the event someone swallowed his tongue. He almost certainly saved Kaline's life. For what it's worth, that was the only inside the park grand slam HR in the history of County Stadium. BTW, the date was May 30 1970.😉 |
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Post by inger on Jun 10, 2024 19:32:10 GMT -5
Sorry I don’t have the date: (Pipps will know it, and probably interviewed Horton over a beer that night)… Al Kaline and centerfielder Jim Northrup both converged on a line drive and collided. Kaline lay flat on the warning track motionless. Immediately he began to suffocate, his jaw locked and his tongue obstructed his breathing. Racing over from left field….Willie Horton….pried open Kaline’s clenched jaw, pulled his tongue out of his throat. Kaline opened his eyes not realizing what happened & rushed to a local hospital. Willie Horton received an award from the Michigan Heart Association who told Willie that he saved Al Kaline’s life... Sorry Inger, I never met Willie Horton. But my youngest brother, a lifelong Tigers fan for some reason, actually did and said he was a great guy. I did meet Al Kaline when I went to a book signing at the Babe Ruth home in Baltimore along with my bro. About that play -- it was a bases-loaded hit off the bat of Brewers SS Roberto Pena. Horton had been a Golden Gloves boxer and had training in what to do in the event someone swallowed his tongue. He almost certainly saved Kaline's life. For what it's worth, that was the only inside the park grand slam HR in the history of County Stadium. BTW, the date was May 30 1970.😉 I knew you could help add to that story… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 10, 2024 19:37:34 GMT -5
Sorry Inger, I never met Willie Horton. But my youngest brother, a lifelong Tigers fan for some reason, actually did and said he was a great guy. I did meet Al Kaline when I went to a book signing at the Babe Ruth home in Baltimore along with my bro. About that play -- it was a bases-loaded hit off the bat of Brewers SS Roberto Pena. Horton had been a Golden Gloves boxer and had training in what to do in the event someone swallowed his tongue. He almost certainly saved Kaline's life. For what it's worth, that was the only inside the park grand slam HR in the history of County Stadium. BTW, the date was May 30 1970.😉 I knew you could help add to that story… As long as you do all the heavy lifting, I'll throw a little BS on the pile.🥳 |
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Post by inger on Jun 10, 2024 21:30:32 GMT -5
I knew you could help add to that story… As long as you do all the heavy lifting, I'll throw a little BS on the pile.🥳 More like I set up your dunks… |
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Post by inger on Jun 11, 2024 6:19:05 GMT -5
Anybody want to guess what Harry Hooper did 9/28/24? Would you believe he hit 2 doubles and 2 triples in one game?
The Red Sox aren’t known much for their base stealing, but Hooper just happens to be their all time leader in that department with 300 on the nose.
May 30, 1913 Hooper hit a home run in each end of a double header. He’s the first player eventually admitted to the HOF to do so…
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Post by inger on Jun 11, 2024 14:12:34 GMT -5
33 pitchers have had the misfortune of hitting three batters in an inning. Kirby Yates is the last Yankee to do it in 2016. I noticed that Pat Venditte did it after leaving the Yanks in a 2019 game while hurling for San Francisco.
Venditte wound pitching for 6 different teams, a total of 62 appearances 0-0; 4.73 0 saves, 22 games finished…
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Post by inger on Jun 11, 2024 14:42:36 GMT -5
July 26, 1994. Travis Fryman did it, too. 2 doubles and 2 triples in one game, that is.
In 1992 Fryman took over at SS for Alan Trammell* when Trammell broke his leg. He win his only silver slugger that year because of the move. It was the only season of Fryman’s career that he wasn’t a third baseman.
In 2000 Fryman enjoyed a 60 game errorless streak on his way to a gold glove…at third base, of course.
Fryman and Al Kaline are the only tigers in history to have three 20+ home run seasons before the age of 25…
*Trammell, not Tram-AHL’ like our current
Minor leaguer…I call it, “the good old days”…
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 11, 2024 16:32:33 GMT -5
July 26, 1994. Travis Fryman did it, too. 2 doubles and 2 triples in one game, that is. In 1992 Fryman took over at SS for Alan Trammell* when Trammell broke his leg. He win his only silver slugger that year because of the move. It was the only season of Fryman’s career that he wasn’t a third baseman. In 2000 Fryman enjoyed a 60 game errorless streak on his way to a gold glove…at third base, of course. Fryman and Al Kaline are the only tigers in history to have three 20+ home run seasons before the age of 25… *Trammell, not Tram-AHL’ like our current Minor leaguer…I call it, “the good old days”… Thank you Inger for dredging up these things for those of us who love baseball history. Travis Fryman had a nice career -- a five-time All Star. I used to think he must have been related to the old pitcher Woody Fryman -- both of them were born in Kentucky -- Travis was born in Lexington and Woody died there. But I can't find any indication that they were related. The Tigers have had their share of sluggers through the years, so when you said Kaline and Fryman were the only two to have three 20-HR seasons before age 25, I thought there had to be another one in there somewhere and started pulling players out of the wazoo. The first guy I looked into was Bobby Higginson, who did have three 20-HR seasons early in his career, but he wasn't called up until he was 24. Then I thought maybe Hank Greenberg, but he didn't make it. Rudy York was close but no cigar, same with Tony Clark, and Willie Horton was as close as you could be -- he had 20 plus HR seasons at age 22 and 23, but then stopped at 19 in his age 24 year. But then I did come up with one who I remembered started young and fast and also fizzled young and fast. First baseman from the 70s and 80s Jason Thompson had three 20-plus HR years before his age 25 season. He had a few more good seasons after that, but he was pretty well washed up by the time he was 30 and played his last handful of games at age 31. I checked into a few other suspects like Kirk Gibson and Bill Freehan and Jim Northrup, but none of them did it. There may be another one out there somewhere but I couldn't find him. I checked anyone who I could think of who seemed like a candidate -- Trammell and Whitaker and Parrish and Glenn Wilson and McAuliffe, even the still-living at 97 Charley Maxwell, but he didn't even come to Detroit until he was 28. I appreciate you throwing these out there. It's a subject that wouldn't have occurred to me but I enjoy reading about it. Al Kaline is Detroit's all-time HR leader with 399. Miguel Cabrera and Norm Cash are tied for second at 373. Hank Greenberg with 306 is the only other player with at least 300 HRs as a Tiger. |
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Post by inger on Jun 11, 2024 16:42:10 GMT -5
July 26, 1994. Travis Fryman did it, too. 2 doubles and 2 triples in one game, that is. In 1992 Fryman took over at SS for Alan Trammell* when Trammell broke his leg. He win his only silver slugger that year because of the move. It was the only season of Fryman’s career that he wasn’t a third baseman. In 2000 Fryman enjoyed a 60 game errorless streak on his way to a gold glove…at third base, of course. Fryman and Al Kaline are the only tigers in history to have three 20+ home run seasons before the age of 25… *Trammell, not Tram-AHL’ like our current Minor leaguer…I call it, “the good old days”… Thank you Inger for dredging up these things for those of us who love baseball history. Travis Fryman had a nice career -- a five-time All Star. I used to think he must have been related to the old pitcher Woody Fryman -- both of them were born in Kentucky -- Travis was born in Lexington and Woody died there. But I can't find any indication that they were related. The Tigers have had their share of sluggers through the years, so when you said Kaline and Fryman were the only two to have three 20-HR seasons before age 25, I thought there had to be another one in there somewhere and started pulling players out of the wazoo. The first guy I looked into was Bobby Higginson, who did have three 20-HR seasons early in his career, but he wasn't called up until he was 24. Then I thought maybe Hank Greenberg, but he didn't make it. Rudy York was close but no cigar, same with Tony Clark, and Willie Horton was as close as you could be -- he had 20 plus HR seasons at age 22 and 23, but then stopped at 19 in his age 24 year. But then I did come up with one who I remembered started young and fast and also fizzled young and fast. First baseman from the 70s and 80s Jason Thompson had three 20-plus HR years before his age 25 season. He had a few more good seasons after that, but he was pretty well washed up by the time he was 30 and played his last handful of games at age 31. I checked into a few other suspects like Kirk Gibson and Bill Freehan and Jim Northrup, but none of them did it. There may be another one out there somewhere but I couldn't find him. I checked anyone who I could think of who seemed like a candidate -- Trammell and Whitaker and Parrish and Glenn Wilson and McAuliffe, even the still-living at 97 Charley Maxwell, but he didn't even come to Detroit until he was 28. I appreciate you throwing these out there. It's a subject that wouldn't have occurred to me but I enjoy reading about it. Al Kaline is Detroit's all-time HR leader with 399. Miguel Cabrera and Norm Cash are tied for second at 373. Hank Greenberg with 306 is the only other player with at least 300 HRs as a Tiger. So I missed Jason Thompson… ot the writer from the article I was stealing from missed him, too. I also was quite amazed at the Kaline-Fryman combo and I can remain equally amazed about a combo that includes Thompson…Hard to believe that no one has passed him in HR. And what a unique #. 399… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 11, 2024 18:26:28 GMT -5
Thank you Inger for dredging up these things for those of us who love baseball history. Travis Fryman had a nice career -- a five-time All Star. I used to think he must have been related to the old pitcher Woody Fryman -- both of them were born in Kentucky -- Travis was born in Lexington and Woody died there. But I can't find any indication that they were related. The Tigers have had their share of sluggers through the years, so when you said Kaline and Fryman were the only two to have three 20-HR seasons before age 25, I thought there had to be another one in there somewhere and started pulling players out of the wazoo. The first guy I looked into was Bobby Higginson, who did have three 20-HR seasons early in his career, but he wasn't called up until he was 24. Then I thought maybe Hank Greenberg, but he didn't make it. Rudy York was close but no cigar, same with Tony Clark, and Willie Horton was as close as you could be -- he had 20 plus HR seasons at age 22 and 23, but then stopped at 19 in his age 24 year. But then I did come up with one who I remembered started young and fast and also fizzled young and fast. First baseman from the 70s and 80s Jason Thompson had three 20-plus HR years before his age 25 season. He had a few more good seasons after that, but he was pretty well washed up by the time he was 30 and played his last handful of games at age 31. I checked into a few other suspects like Kirk Gibson and Bill Freehan and Jim Northrup, but none of them did it. There may be another one out there somewhere but I couldn't find him. I checked anyone who I could think of who seemed like a candidate -- Trammell and Whitaker and Parrish and Glenn Wilson and McAuliffe, even the still-living at 97 Charley Maxwell, but he didn't even come to Detroit until he was 28. I appreciate you throwing these out there. It's a subject that wouldn't have occurred to me but I enjoy reading about it. Al Kaline is Detroit's all-time HR leader with 399. Miguel Cabrera and Norm Cash are tied for second at 373. Hank Greenberg with 306 is the only other player with at least 300 HRs as a Tiger. So I missed Jason Thompson… ot the writer from the article I was stealing from missed him, too. I also was quite amazed at the Kaline-Fryman combo and I can remain equally amazed about a combo that includes Thompson…Hard to believe that no one has passed him in HR. And what a unique #. 399… I remember reading an article in which Kaline was quoted as saying years afterwards that he regretted asking out of his last game after one AB. At the time he didn't care about going for that 400th home run, but it bothered him later that he gave up probably three more chances to hit one out. As you undoubtedly know Kaline was a Baltimore boy. He always seemed very even-keeled on the field to me, but according to some accounts I read he could be rather temperamental and moody away from the game. Not a big deal, so was Mantle, but Al kept it under control on the diamond. I think that other than Mick he was the all-around best position player in the AL from roughly the mid-50s until some point in the mid-60s. A great one who tends to be somewhat undervalued these days by anyone other than Tiger fans. |
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Post by inger on Jun 11, 2024 18:37:47 GMT -5
So I missed Jason Thompson… ot the writer from the article I was stealing from missed him, too. I also was quite amazed at the Kaline-Fryman combo and I can remain equally amazed about a combo that includes Thompson…Hard to believe that no one has passed him in HR. And what a unique #. 399… I remember reading an article in which Kaline was quoted as saying years afterwards that he regretted asking out of his last game after one AB. At the time he didn't care about going for that 400th home run, but it bothered him later that he gave up probably three more chances to hit one out. As you undoubtedly know Kaline was a Baltimore boy. He always seemed very even-keeled on the field to me, but according to some accounts I read he could be rather temperamental and moody away from the game. Not a big deal, so was Mantle, but Al kept it under control on the diamond. I think that other than Mick he was the all-around best position player in the AL from roughly the mid-50s until some point in the mid-60s. A great one who tends to be somewhat undervalued these days by anyone other than Tiger fans. We hat I always found intriguing about Kaline was that he tied his career high oh 29 HR in 1962 before he broke his collarbone after playing only 100 games. He also tied for his 4th best RBI count at 94 that year. His pace was at about 45 HR and 140+ RBI… His actual highs being 29 and 128, it could have been his “signature year”and helped him clear that 400 hurdle… |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 11, 2024 18:45:16 GMT -5
I remember reading an article in which Kaline was quoted as saying years afterwards that he regretted asking out of his last game after one AB. At the time he didn't care about going for that 400th home run, but it bothered him later that he gave up probably three more chances to hit one out. As you undoubtedly know Kaline was a Baltimore boy. He always seemed very even-keeled on the field to me, but according to some accounts I read he could be rather temperamental and moody away from the game. Not a big deal, so was Mantle, but Al kept it under control on the diamond. I think that other than Mick he was the all-around best position player in the AL from roughly the mid-50s until some point in the mid-60s. A great one who tends to be somewhat undervalued these days by anyone other than Tiger fans. We hat I always found intriguing about Kaline was that he tied his career high oh 29 HR in 1962 before he broke his collarbone after playing only 100 games. He also tied for his 4th best RBI count at 94 that year. His pace was at about 45 HR and 140+ RBI… His actual highs being 29 and 128, it could have been his “signature year”and helped him clear that 400 hurdle… That game I remember very well because it was at Yankee Stadium around Memorial Day in 1962 and I was watching it on TV. Al made a diving catch finished by a somersault and sort of crumpled to the ground after breaking his collarbone. I felt badly for him because I liked his game so much and rooted for him when he wasn't playing against the Yankees. I can remember both Alice Cooper and Glenn Frey mentioning how Al Kaline was their childhood hero. |
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 11, 2024 18:55:56 GMT -5
July 26, 1994. Travis Fryman did it, too. 2 doubles and 2 triples in one game, that is. In 1992 Fryman took over at SS for Alan Trammell* when Trammell broke his leg. He win his only silver slugger that year because of the move. It was the only season of Fryman’s career that he wasn’t a third baseman. In 2000 Fryman enjoyed a 60 game errorless streak on his way to a gold glove…at third base, of course. Fryman and Al Kaline are the only tigers in history to have three 20+ home run seasons before the age of 25… *Trammell, not Tram-AHL’ like our current Minor leaguer…I call it, “the good old days”… Thank you Inger for dredging up these things for those of us who love baseball history. Travis Fryman had a nice career -- a five-time All Star. I used to think he must have been related to the old pitcher Woody Fryman -- both of them were born in Kentucky -- Travis was born in Lexington and Woody died there. But I can't find any indication that they were related. The Tigers have had their share of sluggers through the years, so when you said Kaline and Fryman were the only two to have three 20-HR seasons before age 25, I thought there had to be another one in there somewhere and started pulling players out of the wazoo. The first guy I looked into was Bobby Higginson, who did have three 20-HR seasons early in his career, but he wasn't called up until he was 24. Then I thought maybe Hank Greenberg, but he didn't make it. Rudy York was close but no cigar, same with Tony Clark, and Willie Horton was as close as you could be -- he had 20 plus HR seasons at age 22 and 23, but then stopped at 19 in his age 24 year. But then I did come up with one who I remembered started young and fast and also fizzled young and fast. First baseman from the 70s and 80s Jason Thompson had three 20-plus HR years before his age 25 season. He had a few more good seasons after that, but he was pretty well washed up by the time he was 30 and played his last handful of games at age 31. I checked into a few other suspects like Kirk Gibson and Bill Freehan and Jim Northrup, but none of them did it. There may be another one out there somewhere but I couldn't find him. I checked anyone who I could think of who seemed like a candidate -- Trammell and Whitaker and Parrish and Glenn Wilson and McAuliffe, even the still-living at 97 Charley Maxwell, but he didn't even come to Detroit until he was 28. I appreciate you throwing these out there. It's a subject that wouldn't have occurred to me but I enjoy reading about it. Al Kaline is Detroit's all-time HR leader with 399. Miguel Cabrera and Norm Cash are tied for second at 373. Hank Greenberg with 306 is the only other player with at least 300 HRs as a Tiger. One of the reasons that I liked Tom Selleck in "Magnum, PI" in the 1980s was he was a baseball fan, specifically a Detroit Tigers' fan, both in real life and in the series. Lt. Tanaka as 5-O in the show always wore a Tigers' ball cap. Not unlike Thomas Magnum, in my closet you could find a gorilla mask and a rubber chicken and a fitted NY Yankees New Era ball cap, though Magnum wore the classic Detroit New Era cap. In the series, players' names were dropped from Kaline and Cash to Trammell and Whitaker. Selleck reportedly hit a home run in batting practice with the Tigers, and like Billy Crystal with the Yankees, Selleck got an at bat during a Spring Training game. Selleck fouled off six pitches before striking out. Selleck was a fine athlete, walking on at USC as a junior and then receiving a basketball scholarship as a senior. He was also a top notch volleyball and beach volleyball player. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 11, 2024 19:06:12 GMT -5
Thank you Inger for dredging up these things for those of us who love baseball history. Travis Fryman had a nice career -- a five-time All Star. I used to think he must have been related to the old pitcher Woody Fryman -- both of them were born in Kentucky -- Travis was born in Lexington and Woody died there. But I can't find any indication that they were related. The Tigers have had their share of sluggers through the years, so when you said Kaline and Fryman were the only two to have three 20-HR seasons before age 25, I thought there had to be another one in there somewhere and started pulling players out of the wazoo. The first guy I looked into was Bobby Higginson, who did have three 20-HR seasons early in his career, but he wasn't called up until he was 24. Then I thought maybe Hank Greenberg, but he didn't make it. Rudy York was close but no cigar, same with Tony Clark, and Willie Horton was as close as you could be -- he had 20 plus HR seasons at age 22 and 23, but then stopped at 19 in his age 24 year. But then I did come up with one who I remembered started young and fast and also fizzled young and fast. First baseman from the 70s and 80s Jason Thompson had three 20-plus HR years before his age 25 season. He had a few more good seasons after that, but he was pretty well washed up by the time he was 30 and played his last handful of games at age 31. I checked into a few other suspects like Kirk Gibson and Bill Freehan and Jim Northrup, but none of them did it. There may be another one out there somewhere but I couldn't find him. I checked anyone who I could think of who seemed like a candidate -- Trammell and Whitaker and Parrish and Glenn Wilson and McAuliffe, even the still-living at 97 Charley Maxwell, but he didn't even come to Detroit until he was 28. I appreciate you throwing these out there. It's a subject that wouldn't have occurred to me but I enjoy reading about it. Al Kaline is Detroit's all-time HR leader with 399. Miguel Cabrera and Norm Cash are tied for second at 373. Hank Greenberg with 306 is the only other player with at least 300 HRs as a Tiger. One of the reasons that I liked Tom Selleck in "Magnum, PI" in the 1980s was he was a baseball fan, specifically a Detroit Tigers' fan, both in real life and in the series. Lt. Tanaka as 5-O in the show always wore a Tigers' ball cap. Not unlike Thomas Magnum, in my closet you could find a gorilla mask and a rubber chicken and a fitted NY Yankees New Era ball cap, though Magnum wore the classic Detroit New Era cap. In the series, players' names were dropped from Kaline and Cash to Trammell and Whitaker. Selleck reportedly hit a home run in batting practice with the Tigers, and like Billy Crystal with the Yankees, Selleck got an at bat during a Spring Training game. Selleck fouled off six pitches before striking out. Selleck was a fine athlete, walking on at USC as a junior and then receiving a basketball scholarship as a senior. He was also a top notch volleyball and beach volleyball player. Yeah I like him too Rizz. |
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