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Post by fwclipper51 on Jun 16, 2024 16:35:52 GMT -5
A win is a win.....
June 4, 1890-Tim Keefe becomes the 2nd pitcher in history to win 300 games as his New York (Players League) team whips Boston‚ 9-4. Keefe allows 8 hits‚ strikes out 7 and makes 4 errors. The 2 teams combine for 14 errors.
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 16, 2024 17:24:14 GMT -5
Young Rizzuto - "My mouth was always full of Doritos or Starburst Fruit Chews." Ever try the Flaming Hot Doritos? … Yes, but I prefer the original.
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Post by inger on Jun 17, 2024 6:55:37 GMT -5
This was written by Eric Van who holds a chair with SABR science and baseball committee.
The base on balls … on just three balls.
I may have been the only person who noticed, but Coco Crisp of the Boston Red Sox drew a three-ball walk on August 18, 2008 in the top of the 8th inning of a game against the Baltimore Orioles. With two outs and runners on 2nd and 3rd (pinch-runner Alex Cora and Jed Lowrie, respectively), O’s reliever Rocky Cherry got a called strike on a slider, missed with a 4-seamer, got a foul ball on a changeup, missed with a two-seamer, and missed with another slider, running the count full.
I was scoring the game at home (while working as a Baseball Ops consultant for the team), recording every pitch [1], and was somewhat surprised when Crisp was awarded first base on what I had as ball three.
I was pretty sure I hadn’t missed a pitch. I rewound the DVR and replayed the entire PA several times, increasingly baffled and incredulous. I looked for any indication that the umpire had called a ball for any one of several very rare rule violations, but there wasn’t any (and it would have been a big deal had there been). Nope. It was just your everyday three-ball walk. (My scorecard note: “Where the hell is ball 4??”)
Both MLB Stats, Scores, History, & Records | Baseball-Reference.com and FanGraphs (Baseball Statistics and Analysis) have Cherry throwing three balls after the foul. But the pitch-by-pitch data by MLB’s PITCHf/x system (a precursor to Statcast, for pitching only) very clearly shows only five pitches for the PA (it’s the last five rows in the table). Note that if you use the front end at Brooks Baseball (Home of the PITCHf/x Tool) to find this game, it won’t bring up this PA in its list of the batters Cherry faced. You have to click on “Get expanded table data” and get the linked-to table to even know that Cherry faced a final hitter.
What I believe must have happened was that the scoreboard operator had posted a phantom ball. Now, the scoreboard getting the count wrong was not that unusual in those days; you’d see it maybe every other year, and there would be a little delay while the umpire got them to correct it. But in this case, the umpire must have failed to notice that the scoreboard count was wrong. The Sox announcers missed it, too; IIRC, they were chatting about something off-topic.
The big question, of course: how did the Orioles dugout (led by manager Dave Trembley) miss this as well?
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Post by inger on Jun 17, 2024 7:25:40 GMT -5
Oct. 3, 1951. Bobby Thompson hits the shot heard round the world. Also the birthdate of Dave Winfield…
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Post by inger on Jun 17, 2024 7:28:40 GMT -5
Rogers Hornsby had 2,085 hits in the 1920’s. The most of any player in a single decade…
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Post by inger on Jun 17, 2024 7:33:27 GMT -5
Max Flack was the first player to be picked off twice in the same World Series game. It happened in 1918, and the pitcher was Babe Ruth…
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 17, 2024 8:11:09 GMT -5
Rogers Hornsby had 2,085 hits in the 1920’s. The most of any player in a single decade… I would have thought Cobb in the teens might have had more but he had "only" 1,948. Cobb was injured fairly often. In four of those years in the teens, he played between 98 and 124 games. Pete Rose in the 70s was another possibility. He had 2,045. Ironically Hornsby didn't make it to 3,000 hits, finishing with 2,930. After that 1929 season, when he was 33 years old, he never again played in more than 100 games in a year.
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Post by inger on Jun 17, 2024 8:20:36 GMT -5
Giancarlo Stanton 42/15, has more stolen bases that Carlos Correa 33/9…
(Career of course. Neither man has attempted a steal this seasons.)
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Post by inger on Jun 17, 2024 8:21:15 GMT -5
Giancarlo Stanton is having a weird hitting season. He is the #2 ranked DH in the AL by SLG, but the 2nd worst DH by OBP...
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Post by bomberhojoe on Jun 17, 2024 8:45:23 GMT -5
Rogers Hornsby had 2,085 hits in the 1920’s. The most of any player in a single decade… I would have thought Cobb in the teens might have had more but he had "only" 1,948. Cobb was injured fairly often. In four of those years in the teens, he played between 98 and 124 games. Pete Rose in the 70s was another possibility. He had 2,045. Ironically Hornsby didn't make it to 3,000 hits, finishing with 2,930. After that 1929 season, when he was 33 years old, he never again played in more than 100 games in a year. Here's the one that blows my mind. Ichiro who only played 9 years in the 2000's, had 2,030 hits. He was a hit machine!
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 17, 2024 9:00:34 GMT -5
I would have thought Cobb in the teens might have had more but he had "only" 1,948. Cobb was injured fairly often. In four of those years in the teens, he played between 98 and 124 games. Pete Rose in the 70s was another possibility. He had 2,045. Ironically Hornsby didn't make it to 3,000 hits, finishing with 2,930. After that 1929 season, when he was 33 years old, he never again played in more than 100 games in a year. Here's the one that blows my mind. Ichiro who only played 9 years in the 2000's, had 2,030 hits. He was a hit machine! He was an amazing player HoJoe. I never saw anything like him. I feel like he was the modern counterpart to Wee Willie Keeler.
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Post by inger on Jun 17, 2024 16:06:46 GMT -5
Walter Johnson struck out 521 (the most) New York Yankees in his career. Lefty Grove was second with 388…Quite a gap…
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Post by inger on Jun 17, 2024 19:01:49 GMT -5
Grover Cleveland Alexander “Pete” or “Old Pete” was not elected to the HOF on the first ballot.
With such a Presidential name, how did he get nicknamed Pete?
Alexander’s father was a Democrat & Alexander was born during the 1st term of U.S. President Grover Cleveland, a Democrat, so his parents named him for Cleveland. His nickname evolved into “Pete” Alexander, from the names of characters in a series of early silent film westerns, characters he was said to resemble...
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Post by inger on Jun 17, 2024 21:35:46 GMT -5
Napoleon LaJoie was passed over on his first HOF ballot.
His 657 career doubles were the most for a RHB until Craig Biggio and Albert Pujols passed him in modern times.
Plus he had that .426 season that is the single season mark for modern times…
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Post by inger on Jun 18, 2024 6:55:38 GMT -5
Cy Young was passed over for the HOF the first time he appeared on the ballot.
Young doesn’t just lead in wins (511). He’s also the career pitching leader in losses (315), games started (815), complete games (749), innings pitched (7,356.0), hits surrendered (7,092), earned runs surrendered (2,147) & batters faced (29,565).
From Newcomerstown, OH, he was the first from that state to reach the Hall.
Young was the first from our beloved opponent Red Sox to win the AL ERA title.
Young passed away 11/4/1955. The first Cy Young Award was presented in 1956…
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