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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2023 14:52:40 GMT -5
There goes Hicks, 1.51 whip, 5.2 BB/9, but he's a flamethrower. Hmm sounded like they wanted to package but then they didn't ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2023 15:08:35 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Jul 30, 2023 15:19:16 GMT -5
At least Monty didn't go to the O's as rumored. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2023 15:22:47 GMT -5
Prices are def high. If Monty & Sherzer required the Rangers 3, 11, and 14 prospects can't even imagine what Soto costs.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2023 15:26:38 GMT -5
Toronto was their #7 prospect
FOR AN EXPIRING CONTRACT
So yea I can see why Cashman hasn't pulled any triggers yet.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2023 15:33:18 GMT -5
Another thing to point out..
The Jays and Rangers both lost the person they traded for to injury so that I'm sure made them more motivated to pay more as Romano and Eovaldi both went on the IL today so while both should come back eventually in the short term its replacing then adding.
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Post by pippsheadache on Jul 30, 2023 16:04:54 GMT -5
Axisa has rubbed me the wrong way for a while over at RAB since he shut the site down. Anyway, as I mentioned the other day, this line of thinking shouldn't be the way to go. You should try and kick-start this team, make a tweak or two, and not just throw your hands up in air while losing yet another year of Cole, Judge, Stanton in their primes. Go be the front office you think you are and make moves you punted on this past off-season. If you get in the dance... Other than Aaron Judge, what Yankee prospect position player has made a significant positive impact (game changer talent) in recent years? Sanchez, Bird, Frazier, Andujar...the list goes on and on. All washouts. Look at the current team: Higgy - draft, Rizzo - trade/FA, Gleyber - trade/farm, Volpe - farm, DJLM - FA, IKF - trade, Bader - trade, Stanton - trade, Trevino - trade, Bauers - FA, McKinney - trade/FA. Not much there outside of Judge (Gleyber was pretty much fully formed by the time he was traded to the Yankees). In fact, arguably the best true farm player outside of Judge in terms of performance lately has been Thairo Estrada, who unfortunately is delighting Giants' fans. And, he was essentially let go by the Yankees for cash. We used to have nothing but farm guys up the middle: Posada, Soriano, Jeter, Bernie, Cano anchoring the team, with some genius trades of players who knew their roles. This Yankee braintrust is not very good at evaluating, drafting, or developing positional talent. This is on reason why I advocated last season and the season prior to trade "The Martian," while his hype was still "otherworldly talent." I still believe he's a Melky Cabrera with more power and patience, but not as developed on bat to ball skills (i.e.,putting the ball in play) at the same age. We should have secured Bryce Harper when we had the chance, and we should have tried to get Soto when the Nats were shopping him. Guys like that do not come around very often. At this point, other than Volpe, who would this team really miss if we would have cleared our four best prospects for a likely future Hall of Famer in Juan Soto? Cabrera? Peraza? Dominguez? Peirera? We haven't had anyone who knows how to evaluate talent to "Form A Box" if we wanted to do so. Think of all the first round flops the last twenty years. Established talent is expensive, but when you see guys like Harper and Soto, you have to bet on the Hall of Fame talent and sacrifice the what may never be, which is more likely the case with the Yankees. I'll add my name to the chorus who find this assessment spot on. In the roughly 20 years since Cano, the Yankees system has generated exactly two worthwhile position players -- Gardner and Judge. So now all of a sudden we have an embarrassment of riches? I don't think so. Jesus Montero was a generational player, right? Slade Heathcott, Blake Rutherford couldn't miss. The guys you named -- Bird, Andujar, Sanchez, all destined for greatness. Go back to when Cashman took the reins and we had blue chip prospects like Drew Henson and Eric Duncan and Shelley Duncan. All sure things. Wasn't Dante Bichette Jr. also a can't miss? Whoops, wrong Bichette. Missed it by this much. You are of course correct. Proven talent beats cross your fingers every time. Excellent post. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2023 16:08:09 GMT -5
Other than Aaron Judge, what Yankee prospect position player has made a significant positive impact (game changer talent) in recent years? Sanchez, Bird, Frazier, Andujar...the list goes on and on. All washouts. Look at the current team: Higgy - draft, Rizzo - trade/FA, Gleyber - trade/farm, Volpe - farm, DJLM - FA, IKF - trade, Bader - trade, Stanton - trade, Trevino - trade, Bauers - FA, McKinney - trade/FA. Not much there outside of Judge (Gleyber was pretty much fully formed by the time he was traded to the Yankees). In fact, arguably the best true farm player outside of Judge in terms of performance lately has been Thairo Estrada, who unfortunately is delighting Giants' fans. And, he was essentially let go by the Yankees for cash. We used to have nothing but farm guys up the middle: Posada, Soriano, Jeter, Bernie, Cano anchoring the team, with some genius trades of players who knew their roles. This Yankee braintrust is not very good at evaluating, drafting, or developing positional talent. This is on reason why I advocated last season and the season prior to trade "The Martian," while his hype was still "otherworldly talent." I still believe he's a Melky Cabrera with more power and patience, but not as developed on bat to ball skills (i.e.,putting the ball in play) at the same age. We should have secured Bryce Harper when we had the chance, and we should have tried to get Soto when the Nats were shopping him. Guys like that do not come around very often. At this point, other than Volpe, who would this team really miss if we would have cleared our four best prospects for a likely future Hall of Famer in Juan Soto? Cabrera? Peraza? Dominguez? Peirera? We haven't had anyone who knows how to evaluate talent to "Form A Box" if we wanted to do so. Think of all the first round flops the last twenty years. Established talent is expensive, but when you see guys like Harper and Soto, you have to bet on the Hall of Fame talent and sacrifice the what may never be, which is more likely the case with the Yankees. I'll add my name to the chorus who find this assessment spot on. In the roughly 20 years since Cano, the Yankees system has generated exactly two worthwhile position players -- Gardner and Judge. So now all of a sudden we have an embarrassment of riches? I don't think so. Jesus Montero was a generational player, right? Slade Heathcott, Blake Rutherford couldn't miss. The guys you named -- Bird, Andujar, Sanchez, all destined for greatness. Go back to when Cashman took the reins and we had blue chip prospects like Drew Henson and Eric Duncan and Shelley Duncan. All sure things. Wasn't Dante Bichette Jr. also a can't miss? Whoops, wrong Bichette. Missed it by this much. You are of course correct. Proven talent beats cross your fingers every time. Excellent post. Volpe could maybe become that who knows? However I think he probably has more of Gardners ceiling than anything but he's young and that could change. Do I really see it with anyone else in the system? Not really? Wells they say bat is there but defense isn't. Dominguez has looked good and struggled too. Peraza could be decent but I dunno if he is superstar material. Anyone else? That's pretty bad I can't even name 5 players off The top of my head that I can see being successful in mlb. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by acuraman on Jul 30, 2023 16:11:22 GMT -5
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Post by rizzuto on Jul 30, 2023 16:23:43 GMT -5
Remember when Cashman validated the Monty trade but asserting that he may not have been on the playoff roster much less the starting rotation for the playoffs? I have a feeling Texas sees him as a playoff starter.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2023 16:32:38 GMT -5
Remember when Cashman validated the Monty trade but asserting that he may not have been on the playoff roster much less the starting rotation for the playoffs? I have a feeling Texas sees him as a playoff starter. I would think so they have no idea what they will get out of sherzer Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2023 16:36:18 GMT -5
Nationals president of baseball operations Mike Rizzo made an appearance on SiriusXM’s Front Office on MLBNetwork Radio this afternoon, where he discussed Washington’s deadline plans with hosts Jim Bowden and Jim Duquette. As relayed by Bowden, Rizzo provided an update on the market for third baseman Jeimer Candelario, telling the duo that the club has eight teams in on the Nationals’ top trade chip. Rizzo further indicated that the club would “move fast” in getting a deal done once they’re offered the “right player” in exchange for Candelario’s services. Rizzo also discussed the availability of right-hander Kyle Finnegan and outfielder Lane Thomas, who clocked in at #37 and #41 on our Top 50 Deadline Trade Candidates list, respectively. Bowden relays that Rizzo indicated Finnegan has drawn interest from other clubs ahead of the deadline, and it’s easy to see why. Finnegan is controllable through 2025 and has been a solid arm in the Nationals’ bullpen since he made his big league debut in 2020. Finnegan’s career 3.35 ERA and 4.10 FIP are right in line with his 3.07 ERA and 4.17 FIP in 44 innings of work this season as the Nationals’ top option for closing out games. www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/07/rizzo-nationals-have-eight-suitors-for-candelario.html |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2023 18:02:51 GMT -5
Following the Mets’ trade of Max Scherzer to the Rangers led to further increased speculation about a trade of fellow high-priced, multi-time Cy Young winner Justin Verlander. Several teams have been tied to the nine-time All-Star, including the Rangers, Astros and Dodgers. However, Andy Martino of SNY reports that the Mets value Verlander much differently than Scherzer. They’ve placed a higher asking price in terms of prospects and aren’t willing to pay down salary to the same extent they were in order to move Scherzer.
Astros fans may be hoping for a reunion with Verlander, who won his third career Cy Young Award in Houston last season, but it doesn’t appear that’s likely. Astros GM Dana Brown tells Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM that his team isn’t in the market for a starting pitcher right now and is instead focused more on the back of the bullpen and a left-handed bat (Twitter link). Per Martino, the Astros indeed checked in on Verlander, but the teams were “nowhere close” to agreeing on his value.
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Post by acuraman on Jul 30, 2023 19:36:57 GMT -5
with less than 48 hours before the deadline
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2023 19:39:02 GMT -5
with less than 48 hours before the deadline I have no idea what's going to happen I feel the offense looked better this weekend and it's unfair to assess a non judge offense vs a judge one. Should have won Friday got robbed a couple times and completely shut the orioles down otherwise. There's no reason I can't see the Yankees win a series against these guys as long as serverino doesn't start a game |
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